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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:05 am Post subject:
KouSeiya315 wrote:
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My supervisor himself is new and incompetent in his position.
I feel your pain Kou, I got a review once and he wrote that I have a "facetios" attitude(He was trying to say "facetious") I got done reading the review and said, "You know, you mispelled facetious", About 6 months later they fired his dumbass
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:37 pm Post subject:
gaijin mark wrote:
KouSeiya315 wrote:
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My supervisor himself is new and incompetent in his position.
I feel your pain Kou, I got a review once and he wrote that I have a "facetios" attitude(He was trying to say "facetious") I got done reading the review and said, "You know, you mispelled facetious", About 6 months later they fired his dumbass
Yeah, mine misspelled "professional" as "professial" on my review. During the review interview thingie, I was just like "Ok, I understand", when he skimmed through and didn't make it sound like he tore me a new asshole. It's when I read it myself that I realized what he wrote. After I signed it. However, I was told signing doesn't necessarily mean I agree, but that we interviewed.
He kept checking off "Needs Improvement" a few times without clearly explaining in the comments section. One comment section would contradict another. For example, he wrote:
section 1: Does only what's minimally required of the position. Has difficulty looking beyond the scope of the job description and requires occasional prompting to do so. <~Since when is doing what's required of my job a negative thing? I get rated poorly b/c I won't go above and beyond to do extra $h!t I'm not required to do and don't NEED to do?
section 2: Does over average amount of work. Work can be depended on and rarely needs correction. Rarely needs prompting for meeting deadlines. <~Wait a minute, I thought I only did the bare minimum....
section 3: Handles all but the most difficult clients/situations. <~ What? You tell me to ask for help/advice, you give me useless advice, and now I'm rated poorly for ASKING for assistance w/ difficult situations????
As for other things that I admit I DID wrongly, I feel I should have been corrected on it WAY before my annual performance review. I could have had a chance to correct them months ago.
One part, I totally admit I suck at (chartwork). A specific part of chart paperwork I was NOT informed of, so I received no credit for work I did and got an "unacceptable" rating because I didn't know I could check off "yes" instead of "no", but it is still what it is (a "yes", but he didn't tell me it would have been). Also, much of my work that was done was not yet filed, so I didn't receive credit for that work either b/c it wasn't in the charts when he checked. Plus, I closed 10-11 cases this year, all of which I spent time working on and didn't get credit for towards this review.
Everyone else got their reviews today and all did well......MUCH better than me Even the laziest terds got better reviews and bigger raises than me. I talked to co-workers who know me and my work ethic, and all were shocked that I got such a poor review. People are telling me to fight it. I think it's too late, and who would I talk to about it????? I'm afraid of going back to the supervisor and fighting this. I'm also afraid of going above him b/c 1) I already had the in-person review, 2) I don't want it to seem like I'm bitter and just retaliating, and 3) I don't want to have to deal with tension @ work by stirring up a mess. I don't feel I was specifically targetted or anything like that. But I do feel like I wasn't quite accurately rated.
I don't know what to do.
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:58 pm Post subject:
Yeah, that's a tough one, if you go over his head, that just creates more hate and discontent (at least that was my experience) From the post you made on Sat. sounds like his boss isn't real happy with him, hopefully, upper management will wake up and smell the toast burning.
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Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:31 pm Post subject:
KouSeiya315 wrote:
Yeah, mine misspelled "professional" as "professial" on my review. During the review interview thingie, I was just like "Ok, I understand", when he skimmed through and didn't make it sound like he tore me a new asshole. It's when I read it myself that I realized what he wrote. After I signed it. However, I was told signing doesn't necessarily mean I agree, but that we interviewed.
He kept checking off "Needs Improvement" a few times without clearly explaining in the comments section. One comment section would contradict another. For example, he wrote:
section 1: Does only what's minimally required of the position. Has difficulty looking beyond the scope of the job description and requires occasional prompting to do so. <~Since when is doing what's required of my job a negative thing? I get rated poorly b/c I won't go above and beyond to do extra $h!t I'm not required to do and don't NEED to do?
section 2: Does over average amount of work. Work can be depended on and rarely needs correction. Rarely needs prompting for meeting deadlines. <~Wait a minute, I thought I only did the bare minimum....
section 3: Handles all but the most difficult clients/situations. <~ What? You tell me to ask for help/advice, you give me useless advice, and now I'm rated poorly for ASKING for assistance w/ difficult situations????
As for other things that I admit I DID wrongly, I feel I should have been corrected on it WAY before my annual performance review. I could have had a chance to correct them months ago.
One part, I totally admit I suck at (chartwork). A specific part of chart paperwork I was NOT informed of, so I received no credit for work I did and got an "unacceptable" rating because I didn't know I could check off "yes" instead of "no", but it is still what it is (a "yes", but he didn't tell me it would have been). Also, much of my work that was done was not yet filed, so I didn't receive credit for that work either b/c it wasn't in the charts when he checked. Plus, I closed 10-11 cases this year, all of which I spent time working on and didn't get credit for towards this review.
Everyone else got their reviews today and all did well......MUCH better than me Even the laziest terds got better reviews and bigger raises than me. I talked to co-workers who know me and my work ethic, and all were shocked that I got such a poor review. People are telling me to fight it. I think it's too late, and who would I talk to about it????? I'm afraid of going back to the supervisor and fighting this. I'm also afraid of going above him b/c 1) I already had the in-person review, 2) I don't want it to seem like I'm bitter and just retaliating, and 3) I don't want to have to deal with tension @ work by stirring up a mess. I don't feel I was specifically targetted or anything like that. But I do feel like I wasn't quite accurately rated.
I don't know what to do.
Hi hun!
Miss you! Do you want me to tear your boss a new asshole and then shoot him for you?! Lemme know.
823 <--- (remember that code from 'pager' days? haha)
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:24 am Post subject:
ahochaude wrote:
Hi hun!
Miss you! Do you want me to tear your boss a new asshole and then shoot him for you?! Lemme know.
823 <--- (remember that code from 'pager' days? haha)
your boy,
aho
Hi hon <3 I've missed you too~! I don't know about 823 from the pager days
I found out it is not too late to add comments to my review so I decided to do that. I don't know how it would pan out but ehhh. I'm sure it won't change anything but at least I will have responded.
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:12 am Post subject:
KouSeiya315 wrote:
I found out it is not too late to add comments to my review so I decided to do that. I don't know how it would pan out but ehhh. I'm sure it won't change anything but at least I will have responded.
good for you!
would it be too late to talk to another supervisor about your review? even if the "higher-boss" cannot do anything, at the very least will know that something with the review is not kosher and will/should act accordingly. (I hate review time as well. we have it every quarter) _________________
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:43 am Post subject:
Ahhh... a place to vent...
I recently got notice that I will be covering a new territory to assist another Advisor because there's a freeze on the co's hiring... guess how much my pay increased by? ... ... *drum roll*... ...
Great big nada... my comissions actually decreased cause supposedly, my time has been split between the two territories and I only spend 60% of my time in my original area. The new territory's lead doesn't know how to pay me properly so now I'm probably screwed out of at least 15%!! My base pay doesn't increase even though my workload has, so guess what?!? I'm going to do ENOUGH not to get in trouble, no more, no less...!! Petty, yeah... but hey, I don't work for free...
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:52 am Post subject:
littlemissfab wrote:
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
But didn't they just move there recently? That's odd..
nope, they've been in our building forever. they moved 1/2 of the office to our 6th floor earlier this year from the 1st floor.. i guess a floor opened up in our sister building, so they moved the 3rd floor offices and the new 6th floor offices into the 8th floor over there.
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:40 pm Post subject:
niko2x wrote:
good for you!
would it be too late to talk to another supervisor about your review? even if the "higher-boss" cannot do anything, at the very least will know that something with the review is not kosher and will/should act accordingly. (I hate review time as well. we have it every quarter)
Well, I asked my former supervisor about it and he said to write up comments (a rebuttal) and turn them in to my supervisor's supervisor by the end of this week. I doubt anything positive will come of it but at least I will be coming to my own defense. When I read him the comments, he said "Wait, that contradicts what you just read a second ago...", so I'm not *totally* insane.
I typed it up last night and read it to one of my friends (who just passed her MCAT's, btw), and she agreed that there are contradictions and inconsistencies in the review. She said I presented it well w/out coming off as retaliatory, which is my concern. I pretty much pulled out all contradictory comments and noted that they contradict. I also counted the amount of positive ratings ("good" or "exceptional") compared to negative (need improvement) in the rebuttal and questioned why I was rated overall as "needs improvement" while the majority of my ratings were at least "good". I also took responsibility for one of two of my own weaknesses/errors in the rebuttal.
I had my officemate read it over and she thinks it was well-written with professionalism and good evidence. I will also turn this in signed and dated, along with a photocopy of my full review.....highlighting all contradictory comments referred to in the rebuttal.
I really doubt this will help me at all, because the reviews have been turned in and signed-off on by the higher-ups so I'm thinking they were read and ok'ed. Plus the next paycheck (next week) should reflect our pay raises. So, other than the late comments in my defense, it seems to be too late to have any positive effect. Either that or it'll come back to bite me in the ass.
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:14 pm Post subject:
Ganbarre yo, Kou!!! But, like you said, I don't know if will do much good on this review, but it may help when you get your next review. How often do they give reviews? Quarterly, semi-annual, or annual?
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About 6 months later they fired his dumbass 
Even the laziest terds got better reviews and bigger raises than me. I talked to co-workers who know me and my work ethic, and all were shocked that I got such a poor review. People are telling me to fight it. I think it's too late, and who would I talk to about it????? I'm afraid of going back to the supervisor and fighting this. I'm also afraid of going above him b/c 1) I already had the in-person review, 2) I don't want it to seem like I'm bitter and just retaliating, and 3) I don't want to have to deal with tension @ work by stirring up a mess. I don't feel I was specifically targetted or anything like that. But I do feel like I wasn't quite accurately rated.
Took her less than a week to piss everybody off, that's a new record 
But, like you said, I don't know if will do much good on this review, but it may help when you get your next review. How often do they give reviews? Quarterly, semi-annual, or annual? 
