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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Impression15 wrote:
still wondering where i can find kinpachi sensei 6 with subs.

Kinpachi Sensei 6 is also known as Kinpachi Sensei 2002. Keal and I both captured this particular series off of KIKU-TV. Keal's capture is straight MPEG-1/VCD, while mine started off as MPEG-1 but captured the last four or so episodes as MPEG-2/SVCD. Keal's version was initially posted by Hydroxy on the newsgroups about a year or so ago, and again just a few months ago on the repost newsgroup.

I doubt very much you'll find it on BT or any other P2P sites... It's not a well-traded series because of the lack of the usual stereotyped Japanese drama elements most people on JDorama.com look for. You're better off finding someone who has it in his/her collection and is willing to trade or sell it to you. The details on my version can be found here:

http://www.macgeek.org/jdrama/details_kinpachisensei6.html

Let me guess... You like Ueto Aya? That's probably why you want this series. Rolling eyes

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You can count me in also Geezer.

I really enjoyed My Little Chef. I am not sure about the new series yet. The first episode seemed o.k. but it did not wow me. I have seen other series that start off slow and get really good so I won't worry about it yet.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I'm not gonna comment on the new series (Welcome to the High Plains) yet.

It usually takes me at least 3 or 4 episodes to know whether or not I like a show.

Oh, and for anyone who missed the announcement, "Good Luck!!" ends next Sunday (the 25th) and will be replaced by another showing of "Project X"

I will comment on "Project X". Bummer. I wonder if I have enough shows on disc to carry me until football season starts.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Project X again? That is disappointing. Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Count me in too Geezer!

I really don't mind getting some new shows on KTSF, since I watch it like every weekend.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Doramafan113 wrote:
Project X again? That is disappointing. Sad


Yeah, seriously. I remember them showing that show last year or the year before. What a bummer. Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Doramafan113 wrote:
You can count me in also Geezer.

I really enjoyed My Little Chef. I am not sure about the new series yet. The first episode seemed o.k. but it did not wow me. I have seen other series that start off slow and get really good so I won't worry about it yet.


the cast is ok. No one really jumps out at me from it except for that one bald guy since I kept laughing at him in Akimahende. I forget his name
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Elton,

The Bald guy is Nishimura Masahiko.

And he was great in "Akimahende". And he was great in "Perfect Bride" as the inept Unagi chef. And he was great in "King's Restaurant" as the evil, yet inept manager. And he was great...

Well, as I said on another thread... the guy's been in everything.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I sent an e-mail to the fuji.com people a couple weeks ago but I have not heard back from them. Pout
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Doramafan113 wrote:
I sent an e-mail to the fuji.com people a couple weeks ago but I have not heard back from them. Pout

Exactly who did you actually write to? FUJI-TV in Japan, or the KTSF-TV website that's using the FUJI.com?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Doramafan113

I've emailed that address a few times without ever hearing back. Who knows. They haven't updated their site

http://www.fuji-tv.com/us/index.html

in months.

The problem with KTSF is that the management of KTSF has nothing at all to do with the Japanese programing they put on.

According to the guy I talked to at KTSF, that station is basically run by and for the Chinese community in the Bay Area and they are responsible for the Chinese and Korean programing that's on during the week.

There are distributors in New York who buy time on KTSF on the weekends to run the Japanese programs. (I've long since lost their email address.)

I got in touch with their PR department about six months ago (the N.Y. distributors), and they told me that they are pretty much at the mercy of what the Japanese companies make available.

For all I know there's a guy in Japan who doesn't read or speak English who is getting all these emails, and simply hitting the delete key whenever he sees them.

But I'm ever hopeful. Sending the emails doesn't coast me anything, and I'm really tired of infomercials about Green Barley health drinks, and shows like Project X.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Y'know... You KTSF-TV people may want to start checking out the KIKU-TV message board. You'll find there that us Hawaii people are having similar problems when it comes to bringing in Japanese content.

If I remember correctly, KTSF-TV did license some content from JN Productions in Hawaii. Since the separation of KIKU-TV and JNP, I'm not sure if JNP is still being contracted by American companies to subtitle Japanese dramas. I don't know if anyone mentioned this thought, but bringing in Japanese dramas from Japan is only 20-percent of the work. The other 80-percent is subbing the content. That's why in KIKU-TV's case, JNP was a VITAL partner in the overall presentation of Japanese content.

One thing that most people don't realize... The "JN" in JN Productions is its owner, Joanne Ninomiya. From what I've heard from the grapevine, it was Joanne that enabled successful negociations between KIKU-TV and the Japanese networks (NHK, TV Asahi, TBS, etc.) Not only did KIKU-TV loose JNP, they also lost Joanne's connections with Japan. From what I've heard, there aren't any people in the KIKU-TV organization that has the same connections that Joanne had. That's why we're now suffering through 9-year old Mystery Theater episodes and crap that cater to the 50+ year generation.

I'm mentioning this because you guys can write to KTSF-TV all you want. However, if KTSF-TV doesn't have any good people in the organization that can negociate with the powers of TV in Japan, you're not going to get anywhere. I'm just looking at the big picture from purely a business perspective.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

groink wrote:
Y'know... You KTSF-TV people may want to start checking out the KIKU-TV message board. You'll find there that us Hawaii people are having similar problems when it comes to bringing in Japanese content.

If I remember correctly, KTSF-TV did license some content from JN Productions in Hawaii. Since the separation of KIKU-TV and JNP, I'm not sure if JNP is still being contracted by American companies to subtitle Japanese dramas. I don't know if anyone mentioned this thought, but bringing in Japanese dramas from Japan is only 20-percent of the work. The other 80-percent is subbing the content. That's why in KIKU-TV's case, JNP was a VITAL partner in the overall presentation of Japanese content.

One thing that most people don't realize... The "JN" in JN Productions is its owner, Joanne Ninomiya. From what I've heard from the grapevine, it was Joanne that enabled successful negociations between KIKU-TV and the Japanese networks (NHK, TV Asahi, TBS, etc.) Not only did KIKU-TV loose JNP, they also lost Joanne's connections with Japan. From what I've heard, there aren't any people in the KIKU-TV organization that has the same connections that Joanne had. That's why we're now suffering through 9-year old Mystery Theater episodes and crap that cater to the 50+ year generation.

I'm mentioning this because you guys can write to KTSF-TV all you want. However, if KTSF-TV doesn't have any good people in the organization that can negociate with the powers of TV in Japan, you're not going to get anywhere. I'm just looking at the big picture from purely a business perspective.

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Ah. So... since a translator named Joanne Ninomiya is no longer in business with KIKU-TV in Hawaii, it's pointless of me to attempt to contact the people who provide the English subtitled Japanese TV shows for KTSF-TV in San Francisco?

As big picture business perspectives go... that one's a little blurry for me.

But thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Geezer wrote:
Ah. So... since a translator named Joanne Ninomiya is no longer in business with KIKU-TV in Hawaii, it's pointless of me to attempt to contact the people who provide the English subtitled Japanese TV shows for KTSF-TV in San Francisco?

No no, Joanne is the president of JN Productions, and the person who handled negociations with the Japanese TV companies.

Geezer wrote:
As big picture business perspectives go... that one's a little blurry for me.

It's blurry because you never really haven't researched the Japanese drama business in the United States that well. I personally know a number of people at KIKU-TV and JN Productions, and that's how things are done, so it's safe to say that I know quite a bit about what's going on. Like I said, KTSF-TV was also obtaining English-subtitled content from JN Productions, as well as other small TV stations in New York and other markets in the U.S. Just look at KTSF-TV's web site right now... Exactly who do YOU think created the English subtitles for Song of the Canefields???? Or what about the other series they previously aired like Princess Hiro? Or older series like L'oiseau Bleu? You're the expert on KTSF-TV, you make the connection...

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

More research...

Here's a letter from FUJI-TV in Japan, dated July 1, 1998. This is why you don't see any FUJI-TV content with English subtitles in the United States:

    July 1, 1998

    Dear Viewers,

    The Fuji Television Network, Inc., a Japan based commercial broadcaster with subsidiary offices in New York and Los Angeles under the name of Fujisankei Communications International, Inc. (FCI), has since 1982 been providing programming directed to expatriate Japanese viewers residing in the United States. This programming has mainly consisted of news shows sent from Tokyo to our New York office where they were edited and then redistributed.Recently, we have included dramas and variety shows.

    Provision of the programs is and has historically been defined as a "service to the Japanese community abroad." As such, the programs are subject to restrictions related to Japanese copyright law, and, except for news, are to be aired without subtitles. Some entertainment programs, however, were briefly distributed to the US west coast via Hawaii, and inadvertently appeared with subtitles. From April of this year all distribution to the US is direct from Japan, and without subtitles.

    We realize that the appearance and elimination of subtitling on our programs aired on the US west coast may have caused inconvenience to some of our viewers. We ask for understanding that Fuji Television Network, Inc. and FCI, are mandated to provide programming as it is broadcast in Japan for the Japanese speaking community in the United States.

    Please direct any inquiries on this subject to Fuji Television Network, Inc.as follows:


    Fuji Television Network, Inc.
    International Department
    2-4-8 Daiba, Minato-ku
    Tokyo 137-8088

That's why you no longer see any FUJI-TV content aired on NGN with English subtitles. Also, Singapore's Channel 8, on the otherhand, has a direct business relationship with FUJI-TV, giving Channel 8 exclusive rights to sub FUJI-TV content themselves. That's why JEM has that major nitch in his capturing activities.

What I'm tryng to explain to you folks is that for KTSF-TV to bring in more quality Japanese entertainment, they must:

- Establish licensing with the Japanese studios through negociations. They can't just buy a license -- the Japanese are consistently very strict on how their content is distributed outside of Japan. And believe me, Joanne is one of the few people in the United States with the connections and the skills to negociate these kinds of deals.

- Once they license the content, they must find someone to sub the content. The content doesn't just arrive with the subs already on there. They must either do it in-house (like KIKU-TV is doing it now), or out-source the work to a company like JN Productions. And, as you mentioned earlier, KTSF-TV is run by Chinese people. It doesn't sound to me like they can handle English subbing of Japanese dramas in-house.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Groink,

Are you arguing with someone in your head?

Are you carrying on an argument you've been having on the KIKU board?

That notice from Fuji is a couple of years old. Most people here have seen it and discussed it at length. That's not at issue here.

Most of us, yes Groink, even us dumbasses, know that companies have to pay the liscense and distribution fees to the Japanese companies that make and own the programs, and then someone else has to be contracted to write and apply the subtitles. (Some have been subed by JPN. But quite a few more have been subbed by Golden Nippon. And there are other companies that specialize in subtitling TV shows)

That's not at issue here.

KIKU and their business practices and history are not at issue here.

I am, we are, discussing KTSF in San Francisco

There are two nights per week dedicated to Japanese programing on KTSF.

On Sundays, more recent Japanese programs without subtitling are shown. The company that buys time and buys programming for Sunday nights is not the same company that buys time and programming for Saturday nights.

On Saturdays a company called, Fuji Telecast and Production Company (aka Fuji TV -- not Fuji Television in Japan)) provides Japanese programing with English subtitles. They are a Northern California company. They provide shows from TBS, and NHK, and a number of other TV companies in Japan.

At issue here is my / our attempt to inform the buyers at the "Fuji Telecast and Production Company" of our preferances.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I'm trying to get across everyone here that the idea of harassing a small TV station like KTSF-TV is not going to get you anywhere. That's the entire premiss of my rant on this topic. You guys keep sending e-mails to them, and they're not answering. Just give up already!!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Well, "To the One I Love" has run its course.

Next up for KTSF in San Francisco:

"Proof Of The Man"

http://jdorama.com/drama.825.htm

Beginning on Sunday, August 29th at 10 pm.

This looks like it's gonna be an interesting show.

If anyone feels like writing a synopsis for this show, or knows where there is one, feel free to pipe up.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Geezer wrote:
Well, "To the One I Love" has run its course.

Next up for KTSF in San Francisco:

"Proof Of The Man"

http://jdorama.com/drama.825.htm

Beginning on Sunday, August 29th at 10 pm.

This looks like it's gonna be an interesting show.

If anyone feels like writing a synopsis for this show, or knows where there is one, feel free to pipe up.


Hey dont they have that show down in LA also?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:07 pm    Post subject: Proof of The Man Reply with quote Back to top

Elton,

I don't know if they have it down south yet, but if having in in the L.A. area means there's a chance that someone will write up a synopsis, I hope so.

This one looks interesting, but it's pretty clear, from the scenes I've seen, that it's gonna beat the crap out of my bad restaurant Japanese.

The tear jerkers can be pretty easy to follow. And the same goes for most of the comedies and the family series. But the darker mysteries (which I love) are a bit too complicated for my Japanese vocabulary of upwards of a dozen words.
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