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dummyuser2
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Other Firefox related links:
http://www.jdorama.com/viewtopic.2704.75.htm
http://www.jdorama.com/viewtopic.826.htm
Is anyone here using the Firefox browser to view/post on JDorama.com? I'm right now evaluating Firefox on my Windows PC to hopefully replace Internet Explorer.
The only thing I've noticed so far is that the editor within JDorama.com is very flaky. The cursor flickers much faster, in a state where it just flutters to the point where it's somewhat irritating. Also, the handling of the special effect tags don't work well (bold, italicized, underlined, etc.)... For example, under IE, I used to be able to first double-click a word so that it's highlighted, then click the BOLD typeface button. Now in Firefox, I can still double-click a word, but when I hit the BOLD button, the editor places the closed tag on the bottom of the document rather than around the highlighted word. So for now, I have to manually type in the open/closed tags around a word or phrase.
Strange enough, I have the same editor issues with Safari, which ships with Mac OS X.
I'm wondering if other users of Firefox are experiencing these editor problems, and possibly other problems with JDorama.com.
Thanks!
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ruroshin
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| Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:43 am Post subject: |
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been using firefox for a while now and I notice the flicker too but it doesn't bother me that much. Overall I think there still lots of thing to iron out in firefox but at least they're showing they're willing to improve and inovate. hurrah for tab browsing  |
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RedRum
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| Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| I didn't notice the editor problem until you mentioned it. I just tried it with Opera, the same thing happens. |
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yume
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| Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:19 am Post subject: |
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I didn't notice any of those things either--but if a quick flicker and bb board attributes keep you from having the best, safest surfing of your life--then...O_O; hahaha.
I'd rather make a sentence bold before I can highlight it and make it bold than the many viruses and crap that come with Internet Explorer. Speaking of which--does anyone know how to get MSN Messenger to use Firefox as my default instead of IE? I really don't want to use IE for more than what was built into XP (which is, in itself, another ridiculous Microsoft idiocy that they didn't think about when considering the safety of the system when the internet browser isn't just a browser--but actually an integral part of the entire Windows makeup, grr!!!).[/b] |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| eightysix wrote: | | Tabbed browsing was friggin ingenius IMO. That's one of the main reasons I switched. Instead of having all of these IE windows open, I can have ONE Firefox window with 5+ tabs of my favorite sites. My only gripe being that, as groink already mentioned, you have to manually insert attributes to text like bold or italics. |
Yup! Greatest thing alive! Next would be tabbed IMs  |
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yume
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You can get tabbed IMs with Trillian (or that might just be in away status, but yeah, I think it's a full feature?).  Bythehoo, eltinator, will be e-mailing you doc soon. |
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eltinator
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| Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| yume wrote: | | You can get tabbed IMs with Trillian (or that might just be in away status, but yeah, I think it's a full feature?). Bythehoo, eltinator, will be e-mailing you doc soon. |
Yup, I use deadaim though 
Yay ep 4! Ep 3 is almost done. I had Mari (the other translator look it over and she filled in some of the missing parts ) |
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eightysix
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niko2x
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| Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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i notice also that if you hover over a thread on the recent post section of the jdrama home page, in the status bar in the lower right-hand corner of IE, it will display the entire topic subject, whereas in FF, it's nowhere.
but by no means i'm belittling FF, just a little different. other than that FF runs circles around IE. (if only i can get it to work at home just like at work...) *wishful thinking*
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| Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| niko2x wrote: | | i notice also that if you hover over a thread on the recent post section of the jdrama home page, in the status bar in the lower right-hand corner of IE, it will display the entire topic subject, whereas in FF, it's nowhere. |
It shows up fine in mine...
Hmmm....maybe different builds of Firefox? |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Anonymous wrote: | It shows up fine in mine...
Hmmm....maybe different builds of Firefox? |
my version is this:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Firefox/0.10.1
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mizune
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| Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like we are using sightly different builds....mine is older o_O;;;
Mine:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040707 Firefox/0.9.2
The guest was me, btw...don't know why it did that... ^_^; |
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dummyuser2
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 5:17 am Post subject: |
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Being that JDorama.com is still running on phpBB 2.0.1, there have been several advances by the developers of the message board software to stay compatible with the minority browsers, namely Firefox, Safari, among others.
On my Sakai Noriko site I'm building, I'm building off the version 2.0.10 foundation. Testing the 2.0.10 build with both Firefox and Safari, all the editing features are working great.
On my Pentium III system (W2K Pro, 512MB, 833MHz), Firefox's rendering engine* isn't as fast as Internet Explorer, especially on the JDorama.com pages where there are tons of graphics. I think this is the fault of phpBB, even with their latest build.
So the only way I can see Genma getting the minority browser issues up to snuff is to start pulling code out of the 2.0.10 build and add it onto his existing 2.0.1 build.
For me, the editing incompatibility on JDorama.com is enough to keep me on Internet Explorer for the moment. I still have Firefox installed and use it when I surf in un-chartered territories, but it's currently not set as my default web browser.
--- groink
* The rendering engine is the code within a web browser that downloads the web's HTML code, attempts to builld the web page's layout, then downloads the other objects like images and such. In the case of phpBB, the 3rd-party images do not contain pre-defined image size parameters in the img src= HTML code, slowing down the rendering of the overall page. Even though the slowdown occurs on all web browsers out there, Firefox is noticeably slow compared to IE (at least on my PIII system). |
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mvc
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| I use FIreFox currently. FireFox wasn't the first program to use tabbed browsing, though. MyIE (currently named something else now) was the first program I used that had tabbed browsing. I think it remains the most full-featured program. Its an add-on for IE, though. There are so many features in, and things like mouse gestures, tabbed browsing are built-in. I really think that FireFox should have tabbed browsing built-in, and not as an extension. There are some bugs in FireFox that annoy me, such as a highlighting bug where everything on a page gets highlighted, but I'm using 0.9 still, so maybe the new version fixes some bugs. I'm just waiting for it to becomes final, and also for more of the extensions I use to convert to the new version. |
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RedRum
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:25 am Post subject: |
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| mvc wrote: | | I use FIreFox currently. FireFox wasn't the first program to use tabbed browsing, though. MyIE (currently named something else now) was the first program I used that had tabbed browsing. I think it remains the most full-featured program. Its an add-on for IE, though. There are so many features in, and things like mouse gestures, tabbed browsing are built-in. I really think that FireFox should have tabbed browsing built-in, and not as an extension. There are some bugs in FireFox that annoy me, such as a highlighting bug where everything on a page gets highlighted, but I'm using 0.9 still, so maybe the new version fixes some bugs. I'm just waiting for it to becomes final, and also for more of the extensions I use to convert to the new version. |
Doesn't Firefox have tabbed browsing built-in?? I didn't need to install an extension for that... |
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mvc
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| RedRum wrote: |
Doesn't Firefox have tabbed browsing built-in?? I didn't need to install an extension for that... |
Oh maybe it does have tabs in default. But I use TBE which has a plethora of options to configure tabs. |
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yume
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I've now switched over to Mozilla and some of my annoyances have been fixed. The title of a forum subject now shows in the status bar when you mouse over it on the front page. Secondly, I got Java to work instantaneously, unlike struggling with Firefox! Now I just want to find a nice skin for it and a better Mozilla icon--because that ugly-arsed mozilla-dragonbeast icon is...well, not cute... ^^; |
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