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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

luppy3 wrote:
hie

can anyone tell me what's the meaning of 'soba ni iru yo zutto'?


'always be by your side'

soba = side, proximity

zutto = throughout, always

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

What's the difference between 'kimi' and 'omae'?
I know they both mean 'you', but when do you use 'kimi' and when 'omae'?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

JeffreyDude wrote:
What's the difference between 'kimi' and 'omae'?
I know they both mean 'you', but when do you use 'kimi' and when 'omae'?


'Kimi' is a familiar term for people to use between friends.
Now, some say that it is used more by males when talking to females, but I think that it is beginning to be used by both. Although, it has to be someone familiar that you use it with.
'Omae' is a little more "vulgar," and you hear it in a lot of younger male conversation. However, it is very rude to use it with someone you don't know well or anyone above you, so my reccomendation is until you are VERY familiar with the language, you should stick to 'anata' or 'kimi'.

HTH,

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thank you very much Victory! Peace!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

kokuou wrote:
'Kimi' is a familiar term for people to use between friends.

'Omae' is a little more "vulgar," and you hear it in a lot of younger male conversation.
i guess that's one of the effects of watching a lot of animes: too many use of the familiar/vulgar language. although it's not TOO terrible, but (IMHO) it DOES give the JPNese language novice the wrong idea about this usage.

Just my 2 ¥....
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

kokuou wrote:


'Kimi' is a familiar term for people to use between friends.
Now, some say that it is used more by males when talking to females, but I think that it is beginning to be used by both. Although, it has to be someone familiar that you use it with.
'Omae' is a little more "vulgar," and you hear it in a lot of younger male conversation. However, it is very rude to use it with someone you don't know well or anyone above you, so my reccomendation is until you are VERY familiar with the language, you should stick to 'anata' or 'kimi'.

HTH,

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when i was at school in japan, one of my mates' surname was omae. as you can imagine he got a bit of stick! hehe not too much though, he was a big guy!! Beat You
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hi, I have a question on the various uses of �悤.


I know one uses of the phrase �悤 is to mean 'to look like', for instance in the sentence-

���������悤�ł��B
"It looks delicious."


Another use is to mean 'in order to', for instance-

�������ǂ߂�悤�ɁA�������{���׋����܂��B
"In order to be able to read Japanese novels, I study Japanese everyday."


Are there any more uses of the phrase �悤? I seem to remember �悤 being used in other different ways. Sometimes I see <noun>�̂悤. Is this another form of using �悤 or does it mean the same as the first usage of �悤? (in ���������悤�ł�)


Oh, and how many ways is it possible to say 'like <something>' in Japanese?

I seem to see "�V�˂݂���" -> "like a genius"
How about "�V�˂̂悤"?
Does it also mean the same thing?

Thank you very much!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Xntrggr wrote:
Hi, I have a question on the various uses of �悤.


Alrighty Mr Green


Xntrggr wrote:
I know one uses of the phrase �悤 is to mean 'to look like', for instance in the sentence-

���������悤�ł��B
"It looks delicious."


Well, kind of.
If you're looking at something like a cake, say, on a table, and thinking, "mmmmm...", then what you would say would be:

�����������ł��B

If, however, you're looking at some people, animals, whatever, gobbling something down like there's no tomorrow, then what you would say would be:

���������悤�ł��B

Something like the difference between:

"That looks delicious."
and
"That looks (or 'seems') like it's delicious."

Xntrggr wrote:
Another use is to mean 'in order to', for instance-

�������ǂ߂�悤�ɁA�������{���׋����܂��B
"In order to be able to read Japanese novels, I study Japanese everyday."


Yup Mr Green
You seem to understand that usage, so I won't go into any further detail.

Xntrggr wrote:
Are there any more uses of the phrase �悤? I seem to remember �悤 being used in other different ways. Sometimes I see <noun>�̂悤. Is this another form of using �悤 or does it mean the same as the first usage of �悤? (in ���������悤�ł�)


They mean the same thing. You can attach �悤 to an adjective, because �悤 itself is a noun, and the adjective is modifying �悤.
But to connect �悤 to another noun, you need the �� in there. Something like �F (iro).

You can say �������F (utsukushii iro - "beautiful color"), but you have to say �Ԃ̐F (kuruma no iro - "the color of the car").

According to my dictionary, those are the only two uses of �悤, although there may be situations where it could be used differently, so don't quote me on that.

Xntrggr wrote:
Oh, and how many ways is it possible to say 'like <something>' in Japanese?

I seem to see "�V�˂݂���" -> "like a genius"
How about "�V�˂̂悤"?
Does it also mean the same thing?


Well, they mean the same thing, but the first one using �݂��� sounds kind of sarcastic. It's like you're saying someone "seems like a genius," but isn't actually one. If you add �� at the and though, you can say something like:

�V�˂݂�����IQ�������B (Tensai mitai ni IQ ga takai.)
"His/her IQ as high as that of a genius."

While it's not *exactly* the same, ���ۂ� (ppoi) also means something along the same lines.
Oh, and it's used almost exclusively for nouns.

�����ۂ� (mizuppoi)
"watery, thin"

Etc.

Xntrggr wrote:
Thank you very much!


You're very welcome Beaten

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Alright! Thanks so much, kokuou! Big Grin
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:56 pm    Post subject: Friendly letters Reply with quote Back to top

Hi everyone I would like to write a japanese letter with 800 characters(letters)..for my school letter competion..If anyone can suggest sites where I can find sample letters...It can be of any kind of letters..friendly,letter to the higher person.....etc.,
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Um, whatever happened to the concept of doing your own research?

I don't understand why others should pull up the sites for you, when it's your homework on the line.

Read the announcement thread. You may not find websites with sample letters, however you will find many great resources to help you with the Japanese language.


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J-dorama.com's Japanese to English Dicitonary

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Merging to the "Japanese Language Questions?" thread...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:30 am    Post subject: CAN YOU PLEASE TEACH ME!!!!! Reply with quote Back to top

PLEASE IF ANY BODY CAN READ THIS MESSAGE

PLEASE THEACH ME HOW TO SPEAK IN JAPANESE LANGUAGE

THIS IS MY E MAIL ADD

[email protected]

I'LL WAIT FOR YOUR REPLY TO MY REQUEST

THANKS A LOT w00t! w00t! w00t! w00t!



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: CAN YOU PLEASE TEACH ME!!!!! Reply with quote Back to top

Merging you to this thread........




John Batusai wrote:
PLEASE IF ANY BODY CAN READ THIS MESSAGE

PLEASE THEACH ME HOW TO SPEAK IN JAPANESE LANGUAGE

THIS IS MY E MAIL ADD

[email protected]

I'LL WAIT FOR YOUR REPLY TO MY REQUEST

THANKS A LOT w00t! w00t! w00t! w00t!













PAY ME!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 2:25 am    Post subject: Re: CAN YOU PLEASE TEACH ME!!!!! Reply with quote Back to top

ahochaude wrote:
Merging you to this thread........
...
PAY ME!

Need a way to supplement the income, Aho? hehe
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:32 am    Post subject: Re: CAN YOU PLEASE TEACH ME!!!!! Reply with quote Back to top

dochira wrote:

Need a way to supplement the income, Aho? hehe

hahaha rofl

No, I think he just wants to be compensated for loss of hearing from YELLING Beaten

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hi!! I would like help with the translation of these words:
niko niko nikki (the title of a NHK dorama ^^), osukaru,
abunai yo, kansen.

Thanks for the info
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

kanae wrote:
Hi!! I would like help with the translation of these words:
niko niko nikki (the title of a NHK dorama ^^), osukaru,
abunai yo, kansen.


niko niko nikki means "smile diary". I think niko niko is one of those "sound effects" like you see in manga, it is used for the sound of a smile. Everything has a sound in manga I guess.

I don't know about osukaru. Is it possible you misheard osoraku (a fairly common word which means "perhaps")?

abunai yo generally means "dangerous!"

There are a number of words that sound like kansen, so without knowing the context or the kanji, it's hard to say.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:32 pm    Post subject: Re: CAN YOU PLEASE TEACH ME!!!!! Reply with quote Back to top

kokuou wrote:

hahaha rofl

No, I think he just wants to be compensated for loss of hearing from YELLING Beaten

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Yeah, it was the yelling and the two new topics by the same guy posted within minutes of each other. Rolling eyes

Maybe I should E-mail him and demand that he pay me if I teach him? Hmmmmmmmmm. Correspondence for one hour a week at $500.00/mo sounds good. hehe Twisted hehe
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Could somebody tell me about the various ways in which �������� is used?

I regularly see it in quite a few places, but the only usage I know for it is �ق������Ă���, which is a 3rd person form of 'want' (right?)

Thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

could anyone tell me the romanisation and meaning of this kanji



I've burned through two kanji dictionaries to try to find it with no luck.

onegaishimasu!
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