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aznanimedude



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

if i remember correctly...hiragana is the most commonly used which is for the phonetical spelling of japanese words, and katakana is for like the "nihongonized" american words
ex. arigatou would be spelled in hiragana but...sank yuu (or however the nihongonized version of thank you was, Bleah i forgot and to those anal people domo sumimasen deshita ::bows:Smile would be katakana

yeah then there's the kanji...1085 (or close to that number) accepted ones rite? (the joyo kanji or something like that i think it was called), well i know there's more but those are the ones they teach in schools rite?

Bleah i guess i should START trying to learn it
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

aznanimedude wrote:
yeah then there's the kanji...1085 (or close to that number) accepted ones rite? (the joyo kanji or something like that i think it was called), well i know there's more but those are the ones they teach in schools rite?


Joyo contains 1945 kanji (of the approximately 50,000 existing kanji).
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

aznkether wrote:
you don't HAVE to laern Kanji, but you pretty much won't be able to read anything unless they provide you with mini hiragana translations.

Hiragana is used for traditional/native Japanese words
i.e. I-KU = to go
i.e. TA-BE-RU = to eat
i.e. SA-KA-NA = fish

Katakana is used for non-Japanese word translations
i.e. A-RU-BA-I-TO = part-time work; the German word der Arbeit which
means job
i.e. KU-RI-SU-MA-SU = Christmas

Of course there are sometimes where people use Katakana even for native Japanese words, which happens a lot when playing Japanese games.

Also, not to be anal to the above poster, but the ROMANJI you are looking for is: arigatou gouzaimasu


you mean ROMAJI right?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

�� wrote:


Joyo contains 1945 kanji (of the approximately 50,000 existing kanji).

ahh i see...i knew my number looked weird...yeah it's 1,945, yeah still alot but VERRY nice considering those are the 1945 chosen out of all the kanji there are

and sorry for the offtopic but i must ask...
a-nesuto...is that goto maki in ur sig? if not domo sumimasen but just wondering
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

aznanimedude wrote:

ahh i see...i knew my number looked weird...yeah it's 1,945, yeah still alot but VERRY nice considering those are the 1945 chosen out of all the kanji there are

and sorry for the offtopic but i must ask...
a-nesuto...is that goto maki in ur sig? if not domo sumimasen but just wondering


yep Bonk
and Fujimoto Miki in my avatar Smitten
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

aznkether wrote:

Also, not to be anal to the above poster, but the ROMANJI you are looking for is: arigatou gouzaimasu


Not to be anal to aznkether, but it's ROMAJI, not ROMANJI. Wink

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edit: a-nesuto beat me to it. Beaten
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

kokuou wrote:


Not to be anal to aznkether, but it's ROMAJI, not ROMANJI. Wink

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edit: a-nesuto beat me to it. Beaten


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

you guys are too nice, my friend Miki straight up smacked the back of my head when I asked her what the Romanji of something was... and not a loving tap kind of smack either... whiplash inducing upside the head kind of smack.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Tu_triky wrote:

the master speaks! Mr Green

For the longest time, I thought it was romanji....until I saw the katakana. Now I know better. I think the confusion lies because we are using Roman letters.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

dochira wrote:

For the longest time, I thought it was romanji....until I saw the katakana. Now I know better. I think the confusion lies because we are using Roman letters.


i thought the confusion lay because of smoknig Roman Red = weed
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Tu_triky wrote:


i thought the confusion lay because of smoknig Roman Red = weed


Did you use up all the rolling papyrus? Grumble hehe
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

krim wrote:


Did you use up all the rolling papyrus? Grumble hehe


gomen, i did...i've been relegated to using zags....
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

a-nesuto wrote:


yep Bonk
and Fujimoto Miki in my avatar Smitten


wow, i almost didn't noticed that until you brought it up....that is Miki... Applaud
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

dochira wrote:

For the longest time, I thought it was romanji....until I saw the katakana. Now I know better. I think the confusion lies because we are using Roman letters.


honestly me too...until i saw this
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

�� wrote:


Joyo contains 1945 kanji (of the approximately 50,000 existing kanji).


wow, that many kanji 50000! Shocked Nut
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

oops, it was a typo
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

qilver wrote:


wow, i almost didn't noticed that until you brought it up....that is Miki... Applaud

Bleah i noticed the miki jsut not the goto...and quilver's got ai takahashi
::officially ends off topic speaking::

well i'm not sure how many there are (i know there's quite alot) but i believee only the 1945 joyo kanji are the ones you need to learn and worry about rite?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

aznanimedude wrote:

Bleah i noticed the miki jsut not the goto...and quilver's got ai takahashi
::officially ends off topic speaking::

well i'm not sure how many there are (i know there's quite alot) but i believee only the 1945 joyo kanji are the ones you need to learn and worry about rite?


those are the ones typically required for reading comprehension of newspapers, books, and the like.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Tu_triky wrote:

those are the ones typically required for reading comprehension of newspapers, books, and the like.

Have you seen Nep League? There's a segment that tests their kanji knowledge.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

50,000? are u kidding?

that surely breaks my head..
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