bmwracer wrote:

Oh well... Their loss, I think.

To each their own...

7th-key wrote:

NHK Domo & co. version: (for all 50 Taigas: http://www9.nhk.or.jp/taiga/catalog/)

Not nearly as cute as Juri-chan.

Another person dropped out from watching... I could understand if it was from bad acting, but come on...

bmwracer wrote:

Another person dropped out from watching... I could understand if it was from bad acting, but come on...

I'm guessing it's probably people who haven't watched many Taigas. Personally, I'm no Taiga expert but this isn't the first time an actor plays a 'young' character.

Jav_sol wrote:

I'm guessing it's probably people who haven't watched many Taigas. Personally, I'm no Taiga expert but this isn't the first time an actor plays a 'young' character.

You'd be right.

I suppose the age thing is beyond their limits of Suspension of Disbelief.

I read all the posts from those who are unable to continue watching this taiga. It seems that people don't have imagination and want everythig to be exact and cut and dried so that they don't have to use any of their senses.

What do they do when they watch Schoolday dramas when the high schoolers who presumably are 15/16 are being played by 24 and 25 year old actors.

That is one situation which would jar on my acceptance I think.

I think also that it needs a little knowledge of the history around the time of the taiga which makes it so much more inviting. The end piece makes that so great.

brad2 wrote:

I read all the posts from those who are unable to continue watching this taiga. It seems that people don't have imagination and want everythig to be exact and cut and dried so that they don't have to use any of their senses. What do they do when they watch Schoolday dramas when the high schoolers who presumably are 15/16 are being played by 24 and 25 year old actors. That is one situation which would jar on my acceptance I think.

That's a great analogy.

Like I said, their loss.

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I think also that it needs a little knowledge of the history around the time of the taiga which makes it so much more inviting. The end piece makes that so great.

Yeah, I think it brings the drama down to Earth and solidifies some of the realities of the drama.

finally i can watch GOU after download it for about 4d23h

but it's really really really make me cry

specially when Oichi realize that she love her husband but in the end they have to be separated,... so tuching, i can't hold my tears ....


now on the way to download the 2nd episode ... i think have to wait until 2 weeks to finish it ... *very slow*

i wonder why Oichi said

"these two will be fighting as friends and also foes for many years to come" ????

ingesz wrote:

i wonder why Oichi said "these two will be fighting as friends and also foes for many years to come" ????

Stay tuned to find out ^.-

ingesz wrote:

finally i can watch GOU after download it for about 4d23h but it's really really really make me cry specially when Oichi realize that she love her husband but in the end they have to be separated,... so tuching, i can't hold my tears .... now on the way to download the 2nd episode ... i think have to wait until 2 weeks to finish it ... *very slow*

You need a faster connection.

I can't access D-A, so I came here to rave on how much I love Ep3!!
It was such a fun episode. Although I still don't like Etsushi's Nobunaga, but Gou-Nobunaga's scenes were very well-written, and I enjoyed them much. Although it's questionable whether or not it's realistic that the great Oda Nobunaga would spare time to play around with his little niece, but I guess it was not too much either^^

Its very interesting for me that the Sengoku history is told from an 8 years old. I haven't seen any taiga drama told from a child's POV much. Some people may not like it, but this is definitely something fresh for me.

Have been feeling something's lacking since Ep1... and now I realized, I miss the presence of No-hime, Nobunaga's wife. Where is she? Tabuchi Kumiko (the writer) doesn't like her? In other adaptations, it was always shown she also fight using a sword during the Honnoji Incident, too bad seem like I can't see that in this adaptation.

A bit disappointed that the Tsukiyama-dono Incident wasn't told in details, but Ueno Juri's performance in this episode made it up for me

Can't wait for next week!
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^ D-Addicts seems to be OK now...

yanie_chan wrote:

Have been feeling something's lacking since Ep1... and now I realized, I miss the presence of No-hime, Nobunaga's wife. Where is she? Tabuchi Kumiko (the writer) doesn't like her? In other adaptations, it was always shown she also fight using a sword during the Honnoji Incident, too bad seem like I can't see that in this adaptation.

Pity, she sounds cool. Since they showed Nobunaga's sons, I thought they'd mentioned the wife or concubines.
Seems then, they're going for the broody lone bachelor image.

*waiting for ep 3...*

7th-key wrote:

Pity, she sounds cool. Since they showed Nobunaga's sons, I thought they'd mentioned the wife or concubines. Seems then, they're going for the broody lone bachelor image. *waiting for ep 3...*

No, they only follow the historical facts. All of Nobunaga�Ls affection belonged to the beautiful boy you see most of the time next to him, his Varlet Ranmaru, the closest person to Nobunaga all his life. They shared a close bond, back then known as wakashūdo.

Nōhime was sent away by Nobunaga a few years after their marriage, officially because she was believed to be barren, but you can surely say that she and Nobunaga never get along well. In contrast to Nobunaga and Kitsuno, his concubine who bore his two oldest sons and daughter, but she died 1566 already.

In most TV Works, Nōhime was put into place of Ranmaru fighting at Honnoji by Nobunaga�Ls side until the end, which was pure fiction. It seems that the Producers/Writers just wanted somebody young girls could identify with.

I hope that we can this time get to see the real Honnoji!

Romy wrote:

No, they only follow the historical facts. All of Nobunaga�Ls affection belonged to the beautiful boy you see most of the time next to him, his Varlet Ranmaru, the closest person to Nobunaga all his life. They shared a close bond, back then known as wakashūdo. Nōhime was sent away by Nobunaga a few years after their marriage, officially because she was believed to be barren, but you can surely say that she and Nobunaga never get along well. In contrast to Nobunaga and Kitsuno, his concubine who bore his two oldest sons and daughter, but she died 1566 already. In most TV Works, Nōhime was put into place of Ranmaru fighting at Honnoji by Nobunaga�Ls side until the end, which was pure fiction. It seems that the Producers/Writers just wanted somebody young girls could identify with. I hope that we can this time get to see the real Honnoji!

Hey, long time no see. Thanx for the insight!
In fact I did read from Wikipedia that Ranmaru died at Honnoji with Nobunaga

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and so it was normal for me to see Ranmaru during some of the previews of the Honnoji fight. Ergo it seems they'll be doing it right this time.

Nice to see you again!
It has indeed been a long time. *lol*

Than this would really make this the most facts-oriented Taiga I have ever seen! Well, if he look over Ichi�Ls betrayal of her brother, which disappointed me a little bit, but I see the dramatic aspect they wanted there.

Just,

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up to Ranmaru�Ls Seppuku, I wonder? This was always the most brutal part of the, already gruesome, happenings at Honnoji for me. First, he has to witness the death of his brothers, then burning his lover and finally commiting seppuku all on his own. A real Hero he was!

I really don�Lt want it happening so early though, because I love the casting of Nobunaga and Ranmaru

Romy wrote:

I really don�Lt want it happening so early though, because I love the casting of Nobunaga and Ranmaru

I like this Nobunaga a lot too, Ranmaru haven't seen much yet, but from the episodes title list (http://community.livejournal.com/tokugawa_gou/6078.html) it is pretty clear when the Honnoji incident will happen.

It is going fast from now ...

But first, looking forward to watch Episode 3 again and then the Horse Parade and some other good things hopefully next week!

I have one complain though, who from the official sites �Ls maintainers got that idea to put the diary/interviews up as images and not as text?
This makes it impossible to translate with online translators, meanies.

(Potential) bad news...the person who has been providing Japanese subs will cease the database after January. Still, I'm grateful for his work done this far.

What does this mean?
1. Hopefully someone else will pick up the work and continue with a database.
2. If 1. doesn't happen, maybe I can somehow get the release with Japanese subs embedded or hardsubbed (this means I might have to do the timing for every single line on my own)
3. Translate it from purely my own listening (/cries)

Let's hope it's either 1. or 2..

Taiga is really tough to translate without a script (sometimes even with it). If it's 2. or 3. the release of English subs will not be able to meet the one-week-after-airing timeline...