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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Apparently the new iPhone 4s voice assistant, Siri, doesn't speak FOB. rofl

http://youtu.be/4LM7edH6ZpE

Two words: "Read dick."
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Tu_triky wrote:
Apparently the new iPhone 4s voice assistant, Siri, doesn't speak FOB. rofl

http://youtu.be/4LM7edH6ZpE

Two words: "Read dick."


LOL!

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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LOL!

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Com'on Sensei. I'm sure your English is more than up to scratch compared to the poor chap in the video above!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Without being alarmist, this has got to start sparking some legitimate concern. Sweat

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The New York Times

Citizens�f Testing Finds 20 Hot Spots Around Tokyo
By HIROKO TABUCHI

October 14, 2011

TOKYO �\ Takeo Hayashida signed on with a citizens�f group to test for radiation near his son�fs baseball field in Tokyo after government officials told him they had no plans to check for fallout from the devastated Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant. Like Japan�fs central government, local officials said there was nothing to fear in the capital, 160 miles from the disaster zone.

Then came the test result: the level of radioactive cesium in a patch of dirt just yards from where his 11-year-old son, Koshiro, played baseball was equal to those in some contaminated areas around Chernobyl.

The patch of ground was one of more than 20 spots in and around the nation�fs capital that the citizens�f group, and the respected nuclear research center they worked with, found were contaminated with potentially harmful levels of radioactive cesium.

It has been clear since the early days of the nuclear accident, the world�fs second worst after Chernobyl, that that the vagaries of wind and rain had scattered worrisome amounts of radioactive materials in unexpected patterns far outside the evacuation zone 12 miles around the stricken plant. But reports that substantial amounts of cesium had accumulated as far away as Tokyo have raised new concerns about how far the contamination had spread, possibly settling in areas where the government has not even considered looking.

The government�fs failure to act quickly, a growing chorus of scientists say, may be exposing many more people than originally believed to potentially harmful radiation. It is also part of a pattern: Japan�fs leaders have continually insisted that the fallout from Fukushima will not spread far, or pose a health threat to residents, or contaminate the food chain. And officials have repeatedly been proved wrong by independent experts and citizens�f groups that conduct testing on their own.

�gRadioactive substances are entering people�fs bodies from the air, from the food. It�fs everywhere,�h said Kiyoshi Toda, a radiation expert at Nagasaki University�fs faculty of environmental studies and a medical doctor. �gBut the government doesn�ft even try to inform the public how much radiation they�fre exposed to.�h

The reports of hot spots do not indicate how widespread contamination is in the capital; more sampling would be needed to determine that. But they raise the prospect that people living near concentrated amounts of cesium are being exposed to levels of radiation above accepted international standards meant to protect people from cancer and other illnesses.

Japanese nuclear experts and activists have begun agitating for more comprehensive testing in Tokyo and elsewhere, and a cleanup if necessary. Robert Alvarez, a nuclear expert and a former special assistant to the United States secretary of energy, echoed those calls, saying the citizens�f groups�f measurements �graise major and unprecedented concerns about the aftermath of the Fukushima nuclear disaster.�h

The government has not ignored citizens�f pleas entirely; it recently completed aerial testing in eastern Japan, including Tokyo. But several experts and activists say the tests are unlikely to be sensitive enough to be useful in finding micro hot spots such as those found by the citizens�f group.

Kaoru Noguchi, head of Tokyo�fs health and safety section, however, argues that the testing already done is sufficient. Because Tokyo is so developed, she says, radioactive material was much more likely to have fallen on concrete, then washed away. She also said exposure was likely to be limited.

�gNobody stands in one spot all day,�h she said. �gAnd nobody eats dirt.�h

Tokyo residents knew soon after the March 11 accident, when a tsunami knocked out the crucial cooling systems at the Fukushima plant, that they were being exposed to radioactive materials. Researchers detected a spike in radiation levels on March 15. Then as rain drizzled down on the evening of March 21, radioactive material again fell on the city.

In the following week, however, radioactivity in the air and water dropped rapidly. Most in the city put aside their jitters, some openly scornful of those �\ mostly foreigners �\ who had fled Tokyo in the early days of the disaster.

But not everyone was convinced. Some Tokyo residents bought dosimeters. The Tokyo citizens�f group, the Radiation Defense Project, which grew out of a Facebook discussion page, decided to be more proactive. In consultation with the Yokohama-based Isotope Research Institute, members collected soil samples from near their own homes and submitted them for testing.

Some of the results were shocking: the sample that Mr. Hayashida collected under shrubs near his neighborhood baseball field in the Edogawa ward measured nearly 138,000 becquerels per square meter of radioactive cesium 137, which can damage cells and lead to an increased risk of cancer.

Of the 132 areas tested, 22 were above 37,000 becquerels per square meter, the level at which zones were considered contaminated at Chernobyl.

Edwin Lyman, a physicist at the Union of Concerned Scientists in Washington, said most residents near Chernobyl were undoubtedly much worse off, surrounded by widespread contamination rather than isolated hot spots. But he said the 37,000 figure remained a good reference point for mandatory cleanup because regular exposure to such contamination could result in a dosage of more than one millisievert per year, the maximum recommended for the public by the International Commission on Radiological Protection.

The most contaminated spot in the Radiation Defense survey, near a church, was well above the level of the 1.5 million becquerels per square meter that required mandatory resettlement at Chernobyl. The level is so much higher than other results in the study that it raises the possibility of testing error, but micro hot spots are not unheard of after nuclear disasters.

Japan�fs relatively tame mainstream media, which is more likely to report on government pronouncements than grass-roots movements, mainly ignored the citizens�f group�fs findings.

�gEverybody just wants to believe that this is Fukushima�fs problem,�h said Kota Kinoshita, one of the group�fs leaders and a former television journalist. �gBut if the government is not serious about finding out, how can we trust them?�h

Hideo Yamazaki, an expert in environmental analysis at Kinki University in western Japan, did his own survey of the city and said he, too, discovered high levels in the area where the baseball field is located.

�gThese results are highly localized, so there is no cause for panic,�h he said. �gStill, there are steps the government could be taking, like decontaminating the highest spots.�h

Since then, there have been other suggestions that hot spots were more widespread than originally imagined.

Last month, a local government in a Tokyo ward found a pile of composted leaves at a school that measured 849 becquerels per kilogram of cesium 137, over two times Japan�fs legally permissible level for compost.

And on Wednesday, civilians who tested the roof of an apartment building in the nearby city of Yokohama �\ farther from Fukushima than Tokyo �\ found high quantities of radioactive strontium. (There was also one false alarm this week when sky-high readings were reported in the Setagaya ward in Tokyo; the government later said they were probably caused by bottles of radium, once widely used to make paint.)

The government�fs own aerial testing showed that although almost all of Tokyo had relatively little contamination, two areas showed elevated readings. One was in a mountainous area at the western edge of the Tokyo metropolitan region, and the other was over three wards of the city �\ including the one where the baseball field is situated.

The metropolitan government said it had started preparations to begin monitoring food products from the nearby mountains, but acknowledged that food had been shipped from that area for months.

Mr. Hayashida, who discovered the high level at the baseball field, said that he was not waiting any longer for government assurances. He moved his family to Okayama, about 370 miles to the southwest.

�gPerhaps we could have stayed in Tokyo with no problems,�h he said. �gBut I choose a future with no radiation fears.�h

Matthew L. Wald contributed reporting from Washington, and Kantaro Suzuki from Tokyo.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

^ That's not gonna help tourism. Sweat
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:
^ That's not gonna help tourism. Sweat


Maybe that Japan Tourism Agency offer of 10,000 free tickets to Japan is to allow tourists to absorb some of the excess radiation...like a well simmered piece of daikon in an oden meal.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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Maybe that Japan Tourism Agency offer of 10,000 free tickets to Japan is to allow tourists to absorb some of the excess radiation...

I need to re-read that ticket offer: the fine print probably mentions that iodine tablets are not included. Sweat
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

I need to re-read that ticket offer: the fine print probably mentions that iodine tablets are not included. Sweat


Seriously. It'll be interesting to monitor the news regarding this issue between now and next April when the tourism offer goes live.

I don't want to be cynical, but one has to wonder about how forthright (or competent!) the Japanese gov't is...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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I don't want to be cynical, but one has to wonder about how forthright (or competent!) the Japanese gov't is...

Or any government for that matter. Sweat
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

Or any government for that matter. Sweat


Very, very true.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

^Awwww man, I hate reading things like that! I hope this doesn't effect my second visit. Pout
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Wynter wrote:
^Awwww man, I hate reading things like that! I hope this doesn't effect my second visit. Pout


It's still too early to say so...it's good to stay informed though.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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It's still too early to say so...it's good to stay informed though.

And keep the potassium iodide handy.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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And keep the potassium iodide handy.


Not bad advice.

I'm copping the lead suit on my next trip to Land of the Melting Sun.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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I'm copping the lead suit on my next trip to Land of the Melting Sun.

Or a lead suit and makeup.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

Or a lead suit and makeup.



So I'm suited & booted if I want to go clubbing. No need to change clothes!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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So I'm suited & booted if I want to go clubbing. No need to change clothes!

That outfit was made for The Robot dance.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

That outfit was made for The Robot dance.


Your fashion sense is timely, functional, and practical!


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Tu_triky wrote:
Your fashion sense is both timely, functional, and practical!

Though we could do without the lead. Mr Green
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

Though we could do without the lead. Mr Green


Adds flavor, like MSG.
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