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brad2



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

All the chemistry and sheer magnetism was with Kimura. Koyuki is a long length of wood. bleh

They never should have cast Koyuki in this role at all.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

brad2 wrote:
All the chemistry and sheer magnetism was with Kimura. Koyuki is a long length of wood. bleh

Problem is, you can't have chemistry by yourself.

Unless you're doing stand-up. Wink

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They never should have cast Koyuki in this role at all.

Or possibly the other way around. Beaten
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

Or possibly the other way around. Beaten


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

Yup... He had NO chemistry with Koyuki. bleh


Remember it was supposed to be Ryoko Hirosue but she had all that drama with her dekichatta kekkon and unexpected pregnancy.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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Remember it was supposed to be Ryoko Hirosue but she had all that drama with her dekichatta kekkon and unexpected pregnancy.

Really...?

Has she ever worked with Kimutaku before?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

Really...?

Has she ever worked with Kimutaku before?


The only instance I can remember offhand is when she was a young girl and she played Senna-kun's (Kimura) music student in Long Vacation.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Tu_triky wrote:


Remember it was supposed to be Ryoko Hirosue but she had all that drama with her dekichatta kekkon and unexpected pregnancy.


OMG!!! i didnt know that!! thats wot they shud of done cus i didnt like Koyuki in that one!!!! Bang Head
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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OMG!!! i didnt know that!! thats wot they shud of done cus i didnt like Koyuki in that one!!!! Bang Head


Yeah it might have turned out better, as far as chemistry between the male lead actor and female lead actress. Zannen
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Tu_triky wrote:


Yeah it might have turned out better, as far as chemistry between the male lead actor and female lead actress. Zannen


ZANNEN dokoro janai yo~~~~ cho~~~~ZANNEN!!! toku ni boku ni totte wa!!!!! Shameful Cry
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

brad2 wrote:
All the chemistry and sheer magnetism was with Kimura. Koyuki is a long length of wood. bleh

They never should have cast Koyuki in this role at all.

Peg

"Chemistry" is one of the biggest load of BS by the film/entertainment industry. They're actors. Their job is to act like lovers/love interests/etc. Failing to create that illusion isn't lack of "chemistry"; it's weak acting on both partys. Not a huge fan of Koyuki, but the problem wasn't her, not completely at least. Neither of the adult leads were worth their paycheck in Engine. The kids stole the show, which says something when the script is written specifically to make the star look good in another carbon copy role.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Kijinnmaru wrote:
it's weak acting on both partys. Not a huge fan of Koyuki, but the problem wasn't her, not completely at least.

Exactly.

There's probably blame to go all around: the casting and the actors themselves... If there's no teamwork or synergy, all the biggest names in the world can't help.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

Exactly.

There's probably blame to go all around: the casting and the actors themselves... If there's no teamwork or synergy, all the biggest names in the world can't help.


yeah ur probably right
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Kijinnmaru wrote:

"Chemistry" is one of the biggest load of BS by the film/entertainment industry. They're actors. Their job is to act like lovers/love interests/etc. Failing to create that illusion isn't lack of "chemistry"; it's weak acting on both partys. Not a huge fan of Koyuki, but the problem wasn't her, not completely at least. Neither of the adult leads were worth their paycheck in Engine. The kids stole the show, which says something when the script is written specifically to make the star look good in another carbon copy role.


On-screen chemistry, like the X Factor, is one of those either-you-have-it-or-you-don't intangibles that don't necessarily hinge on acting talent. There's a whole archive of movies/dramas that have so-so actors sharing great chemistry. And as a corollary, there are times when two individually talented actors come together but fail to generate even a scintilla of sparks. (Off the top of my head: Fukatsu Eri and Tsumabuki Satoshi on SLOW DANCE. bleh) It's a strange little beast, this chemistry, but BS it ain't, IMO.

But I agree that the kid actors were the best thing about ENGINE. Their chemistry with Kimura and with each other--that was gold. Applaud
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

KAZdoramma wrote:


ZANNEN dokoro janai yo~~~~ cho~~~~ZANNEN!!! toku ni boku ni totte wa!!!!! Shameful Cry


Well fortunately Hirosue has revived her acting career and she is in a steady stream of movies and films for you to enjoy.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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Well fortunately Hirosue has revived her acting career and she is in a steady stream of movies and films for you to enjoy.


yes and AMEN to that Bow
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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that was gold. Applaud

Did you steal that line from Kenny Bania? *Seinfeld reference* Beaten
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Ender's Girl wrote:


On-screen chemistry, like the X Factor, is one of those either-you-have-it-or-you-don't intangibles that don't necessarily hinge on acting talent. There's a whole archive of movies/dramas that have so-so actors sharing great chemistry. And as a corollary, there are times when two individually talented actors come together but fail to generate even a scintilla of sparks. (Off the top of my head: Fukatsu Eri and Tsumabuki Satoshi on SLOW DANCE. bleh) It's a strange little beast, this chemistry, but BS it ain't, IMO.

But I agree that the kid actors were the best thing about ENGINE. Their chemistry with Kimura and with each other--that was gold. Applaud

I'd chalk that up to luck more than intangibles. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. There's a reason that actors with "chemistry" can't duplicate that even when paired up again.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Kijinnmaru wrote:
There's a reason that actors with "chemistry" can't duplicate that even when paired up again.

Hmm, that might be true... Can't think of a movie or drama off-hand that would contradict that.... Sweat

EDIT: There's Bogart and Bacall.... Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

Hmm, that might be true... Can't think of a movie or drama off-hand that would contradict that.... Sweat

EDIT: There's Bogart and Bacall.... Smile


Newman and Redford - Tracy and Hepburn Applaud
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

gaijinmark wrote:
Newman and Redford - Tracy and Hepburn Applaud

Doh! Right. Victory! Peace!
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