z123_us wrote:

just curious.. u guys talkin of assembling your machines yourself right, or do u also assemble your laptops yourself !!

I don't know if that's even possible. Since laptops parts are not as prevalent as desktop components, I don't even think it would be cost-effective. And you'd have to build it correctly with proper air flow or else you'll be toasted....literally.

dochira wrote:

I don't know if that's even possible. Since laptops parts are not as prevalent as desktop components, I don't even think it would be cost-effective. And you'd have to build it correctly with proper air flow or else you'll be toasted....literally.

From what I've read/seen, the laptops use various thermally conductive polymers to spread the heat around evenly... Along with little fans...

never liked laptops as well since the screen is too small, and cpu/disk performance is slower than desktops.... but thats just my opinion. ^_^
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arnel98 wrote:

never liked laptops as well since the screen is too small, and cpu/disk performance is slower than desktops.... but thats just my opinion. ^_^

That too.

bmwracer wrote:

Exactly. That way you can choose the best and/or most economical parts for your machine...

Building you're own computer usually costs more than buying a set up. Just because your're buying individual parts vs a manufacture who gets things in bulk and is super cheap for them.
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Mr.ChoyBoi wrote:

Building you're own computer usually costs more than buying a set up. Just because your're buying individual parts vs a manufacture who gets things in bulk and is super cheap for them.

Possibly... But if you re-use some parts, you're ahead.

Mr.ChoyBoi wrote:

Building you're own computer usually costs more than buying a set up. Just because your're buying individual parts vs a manufacture who gets things in bulk and is super cheap for them.

True, but like when you're building the computer you know exactly where those parts are from. Like a retail CPU. Things you get from Dell, those might just be refurbished CPUs or something, who knows. They don't give you the retail box right? I guess to me it's like home cooking versus going out and getting a burger at a fast food joint

me personally, i prefer laptops over desktops anytime, i find them much more convenient and comfortable to use and so much less space, no wires. also i guess i am too much used to typing and viewing on a laptop now.

as far as power goes, man these days u get 2ghz, 1gb ram, 128mb vram eaaasily.... donno about u ... for me it is moooore than enough to do everything including high end 3D games.

and well screen size also, again u get all sizes, except for above 17" ofcourse. well for that screen size i turn on my TV

heating, yup agree about the materials of the laptops. more importantly the mobile processors are different and now with the intel speed step it adjust automatically, and the parts are naturally less power consuming. 5 yrs back yeah i would worry abt laptop heating, now .... NOOOO all machines .. i mean good ones are well adapted to it.

donno about US/EU .. in India i have heard of assembled laptops also.. yup and they are cheaper than branded ones also.

eltinator wrote:

I guess to me it's like home cooking versus going out and getting a burger at a fast food joint

EXACTLY!!...Well said...thats why I dont buy pre-made computers.
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eltinator wrote:

Things you get from Dell, those might just be refurbished CPUs or something, who knows

That might be possible from a schlock house, but not from one of the major manufacturers... If they ever got caught doing something like that it would ruin the company, so why risk it.

eltinator wrote:

Things you get from Dell, those might just be refurbished CPUs or something, who knows. They don't give you the retail box right? I guess to me it's like home cooking versus going out and getting a burger at a fast food joint

dont think dell can afford such leisure to earn money, such news would be out in no time and the company is dead after that !!

dell is more about wait for a little time to let the new trend settle down so that dell can move into mass production which is basically mass purchases hence discount which can be passed on to customers.

Just picked this one up last week, and i think i rocks the pants off of an ipod.

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I'm a huge portable computer fan! I've been meaning to replace my old nearly 5 years old desktop (still runs divx though, chokes on avc and other super compressed format) with portable computer. Which make? I'm not sure yet. An IBM Thinkpad T4x series has tempted me before, it's pretty portable, less than 2,5 kg. The bad thing is the screen, a 14" display is rather weak (viewin angle and lack of brightness). There is a flexview display, but the price is holdin me down! Mabye the Thinkpad isn't good for multimedia which I mainly use. Glossy screen (extra brightness and reflective) is definitely a must for viewin movies!
Apple Powerbook was an alternative candidate till I found out Apple's policy on warranty issues on the net. I gave up.
I just love ultra portables. They are small, sexy, light and pricey! hehe.
www.dynamism.com and www.geekstuff4u.com sell these neat ultra portables! Of course, pricey yet sexy as ever!

Why portable for me? The electricity consumption is quite an important issue, I tend to keep it running 24/7. Current system doesn't consume much. A dual core rig running 24/7 and the heat it produces
The noise and the electricy bill....
Portable computer takes significantly less space. As for gaming, I prefer gaming consoles.
I lurk daily at www.notebookreview.com and forum.thinkpads.com

yeah i also luuv ultraportables especially the Viao X and T series, but one thing is for sure, they r not comfortable for normal use, for office or on the move job it is ok, otherwise I prefer a comfortable screen size. the problem with the X series was absense of touchpad, and i am not a very big fan of the stick.

ammm as for multimedia, my T42 has been pretty comfortable with Doom3, Halo, NFS etc. not tried Half life yet! .. but should be ok. yeah but gaming consoles r ofcourse better and well the screen that i have is 15" ... bigger than that i dont like laptops then as they r just too big.

Pemu wrote:

Glossy screen (extra brightness and reflective) is definitely a must for viewin movies!

Yeah, you're not gonna get that from an LCD, along with the narrow viewing angle... CRTs are the way to go for viewing movies or doing photographic work... They're just inherently clearer and sharper.

From Yahoo! News:

Considering the Move to Windows 64?

Wed Apr 27,12:43 PM ET
Elizabeth Millard, newsfactor.com

The world is full of numbers, as people work 24/7, pick up snacks at 7-11 and get the 411. In the technology arena, where digits are rampant, the number garnering the most attention now, and for some time into the future, is 64.

Operating systems based on 64-bit technology have been heralded as having the potential to set off a new wave of technology, as well as simply making enterprises faster and more efficient.

But the 64 dawn has not quite broken into full sun yet: For most users, a 64-bit system means a Linux platform and an AMD (NYSE: AMD - news) chip.

But recently, the Windows 64-bit operating system and Intel's (Nasdaq: INTC - news) 64-bit Itanium chip opened new alternatives to at least some of the server market. Now it is up to users to decide whether making the move to Win x64 can give them the numbers they need.


Gradual Transition

One important thing to note when contemplating the shift from 32-bit to 64-bit computing is that although it might feel like a dramatic leap from one to the other, Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT - news) maintains that the move can be done over time.

Windows Server 2003 x64 editions and Windows XP Professional x64 edition allow Microsoft customers to run both 32-bit and 64-bit applications, according to John Borozan, senior product manager in the Windows Server Division at Microsoft.

"Customers can easily make a gradual shift to 64-bit computing at their own pace while preserving current investments in 32-bit applications," he said.


Hardware Store

Moving to Win 64 will require an update of all hardware drivers, but not all vendors provide 64-bit versions of their drivers, or have provided schedules of when they might be released. Because of this, some have wondered if Win 64 systems should only be used with brand new servers that have the software preinstalled.

AMD maintains that there are many hardware vendors that have 64-bit device drivers currently available, and more are coming all the time, lessening the need to wait.

"As the Win x64 OS moves toward launch, we have seen more and more device drivers released," said AMD senior software strategist Margaret Lewis. The company maintains a site to help users get the status of 64-bit device drivers, and where to go to download.

But some companies may choose to wait if they have a broad swath of equipment that needs to be replaced.

"Older devices are definitely the biggest issue," said Lewis. "Even if you buy a new computer with all the necessary device drivers, there could be a problem hooking up an older printer, for example. Just buying new equipment won't necessary solve the issue."


Software Issues

In terms of software, current Windows applications will not be able to take advantage of the 64-bit architecture. The question, then, for many I.T. departments is whether to wait until there are more 64-bit versions of the software to reap the rewards of migrating.

"No, customers can gain some immediate benefits by migrating to 64-bit OSs with 32-bit applications," answered Stuart McRae, group manager for the IBM (NYSE: IBM - news) eServer xSeries.

The OS is multithreaded and can therefore yield better performance on a 64-bit system, McRae added. Also, he believes memory management is better in a 64-bit OS.

"So, for example, the 32-bit application will have access to the full 4 GB of memory it can address while the OS will run in additional memory," he said. That is counter to a 32-bit OS and application where the OS can take 1 to 1.5 GB of memory, leaving the application with only 2.5 to 3 GB of memory to run.


Prime-Time Player

For those who fret that Microsoft's x64 editions are not ready for a chunk of enterprise spending quite yet, Borozan noted that although this is the debut of the x64 editions, they are built from the same code base as Windows Server 2003 SP1.

"They contain all the security and reliability enhancements that are part of that release," said Borozan. "So in that sense, the x64 editions are already at an SP1 milestone."

Calling the x64 the "most stable release of Windows ever," he added that the Microsoft.com site is deployed on the x64 editions, as is MSN Search.

"We've bet our business on it," he said. "So you can see this release is fully ready for prime time."

bmwracer wrote:

"most stable release of Windows ever"

Bad assumption. Just wait until people actually start trying to break it.

eightysix wrote:

Bad assumption. Just wait until people actually start trying to break it.

HAHA!!...Its the most stable release of windows because it hasnt been released to the public yet. Once it is released, those little 15 year olds are gonna hack it...
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eightysix wrote:

Bad assumption. Just wait until people actually start trying to break it.

MORE like just wait till people just start "Using" it ... hahaha ... atleast the one thing u can rely on microsoft with is Unreliability !! it will break down on its own ..

and then comes the sea of services packs ofcourse.

Mr.ChoyBoi wrote:

HAHA!!...Its the most stable release of windows because it hasnt been released to the public yet.

Ain't it the truth.

Their beta testing doesn't seem to catch the bugs that the general public finds...