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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:02 am Post subject:
ok what really bothers me is when people do things to there pets like especially to birds and to kittys i dontk now its realy bad and i love kittens and birds i have to cockatails and if anything was to happen to them i dont know what i would do. i jsut dont like people to mistreat them what did the animals do nothing its just really stupid people and thats what really bothers me
LMAO... I was as bit shocked and still shocked when she says she have to have at least of ounce of black in her... LMAO give me a break!
lol and no I'm not pissing her off, I'm more or less shocked I boke my shyness talking to the girl in the first place
I'm waiting for that day to move out on my own, and I hope it comes soon enoughat least 200 miles away from mom
lol she is Stubborn, I tend not to be until you just plain get on my nerves.
My interest is mixed (black and white). If my mother ever finds out that I might possibly be dating him... she's going to kill me.
She already has a problem with my oldest brother dating a Jamaican girl. I personally don't have a problem because I really like her.
Vietnamese people (Asians in general?) usually have a very hard time accepting those kind of things. It is true though Enna, people like that are a product of the past. I've fought with my mother on numerous occasions because she's so traditional and hard-headed but I have finally realized that she's too old to change. She's grown up like this and I can't fix that... I just have to take the heat.
I wish you the best of luck.
A current pet peeve - School and people in general (you know all that drama crap you deal with in your adolescent years...).
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject:
Enna wrote:
I feel you Subaru! I think what mrmacca said is so true. Your Mom is a product of her past. She has to be willing to change. You can't change her.
this is so true, ive tried talking to my dad about his weird and selfish behavior and still wouldnt budge, but i know you can never change unless they realize that theyre wrong.. and obviously he hasnt and never will be.. since hes already old.. so i usually try to avoid him n whatever he does.
i can totally feel u on that subaru, i cannot wait til i move out of here until i graduate.. i mean i understand you're still young and your mom is still on your case.. but im already on my 20s and my mom is still trying to run my life.. even on the dating thing.. she'd say how liberal she is but she still comments about me dating a girl/guy, and different races.. its like i have to meet their expectations .. ive argued this with numerous times and makes you just wanna kill her.. if she wasnt that old and not my mother i woulda strangled her by now. _________________
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:19 pm Post subject:
SubaruWRX wrote:
LMAO... I was as bit shocked and still shocked when she says she have to have at least of ounce of black in her... LMAO give me a break!
I'm waiting for that day to move out on my own, and I hope it comes soon enoughat least 200 miles away from mom
_embryoBxTCH wrote:
Vietnamese people (Asians in general?) usually have a very hard time accepting those kind of things. It is true though Enna, people like that are a product of the past. I've fought with my mother on numerous occasions because she's so traditional and hard-headed but I have finally realized that she's too old to change. She's grown up like this and I can't fix that... I just have to take the heat.
MixxDreamer wrote:
this is so true, ive tried talking to my dad about his weird and selfish behavior and still wouldnt budge, but i know you can never change unless they realize that theyre wrong.. and obviously he hasnt and never will be.. since hes already old.. so i usually try to avoid him n whatever he does.
i can totally feel u on that subaru, i cannot wait til i move out of here until i graduate.. i mean i understand you're still young and your mom is still on your case.. but im already on my 20s and my mom is still trying to run my life.. even on the dating thing.. she'd say how liberal she is but she still comments about me dating a girl/guy, and different races.. its like i have to meet their expectations .. ive argued this with numerous times and makes you just wanna kill her.. if she wasnt that old and not my mother i woulda strangled her by now.
Hmmm there seems to be a pattern here. Getting angry with your parents for not sharing your beliefs. Your parents are not only a product of their past but you have to remember that their worlds were so much more provincial then yours. We are fortunate to have the internet and to be able to meet and learn about folks from all over the world. Most of us also are exposed to multi-cultural living environments. So many of our parents were not. I used to get angry with my parents when I was your age, but funny thing is now I don't even remember what all that anger was about. Maybe it is because I am older or maybe it is beacuse both of my parents are now deceased. As are many of my friends' parents. I don't know! Choose your battles wisely because you only get one set of parents, if that.
Most parents change their minds about the inter-racial or inter-cultural or inter-religious relationships of their children, when the grandchildren come along. Then they see only with the eyes of love and everything else fades away.
sangmin wrote:
ok what really bothers me is when people do things to there pets like especially to birds and to kittys
I think I read somewhere that when children show a pattern of cruelty towards animals. esp. torture, that this indicates they may have a strong tendency towards cruelty and brutality towards humans in later life. I think many serial killers showed this trait at an early age. I guess it shows that if you have no respect and regard for one living creature, then why would you have respect or regard for another.
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:52 pm Post subject:
Enna wrote:
Most parents change their minds about the inter-racial or inter-cultural or inter-religious relationships of their children, when the grandchildren come along. Then they see only with the eyes of love and everything else fades away
SubaruWRX wrote:
I mean it's just nuts... And when you tell her she is acting rasist, she says no she is not..
No way in Heck will I bring her near my interest it's bad enough she tells me she' s too tall and other stuff.
lol the day I move into my own place I might just have to run up and down the street and scream lmao.
My mom was born in the 40's.
Maybe one day you can ask your Mom what her definition of racist is? Or why it is so important to her that you marry someone Black. You may find out some interesting things about your Mom. Not all people born in the 40's think like your Mom. Thats no excuse.
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:53 pm Post subject:
MixxDreamer wrote:
this is so true, ive tried talking to my dad about his weird and selfish behavior and still wouldnt budge, but i know you can never change unless they realize that theyre wrong.. and obviously he hasnt and never will be.. since hes already old.. so i usually try to avoid him n whatever he does.
i can totally feel u on that subaru, i cannot wait til i move out of here until i graduate.. i mean i understand you're still young and your mom is still on your case.. but im already on my 20s and my mom is still trying to run my life.. even on the dating thing.. she'd say how liberal she is but she still comments about me dating a girl/guy, and different races.. its like i have to meet their expectations .. ive argued this with numerous times and makes you just wanna kill her.. if she wasnt that old and not my mother i woulda strangled her by now.
Heh good to know that I'm not the only on that feels that way about my mom... I have a habbit of biting my skin to releave my stress..it's not as bad as before.
I Just Friken love how my mom says...
I dont care if you date or marry a Asain...
HOWEVER.. my mom's old Love :-/ his son is living in Japan and his wife is Japanese and he is black, and they had kids, and they are so cute! heh a boy and a girl.
Heh she said they look cute but did not say much as for him marrying a Japanese.
LOL heck my mom almost had problems with my interest being 25 but then she says thats not so bad. god... I would be scared to hear what my mom would say to her if she would meet her, ptoblem is she does not know when it's the right time to say some types of stuff.
It really bothers me.
Also it bothers me when other don't anwser me back from email.
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:55 pm Post subject:
Enna wrote:
Maybe one day you can ask your Mom what her definition of racist is? Or why it is so important to her that you marry someone Black. You may find out some interesting things about your Mom. Not all people born in the 40's think like your Mom. Thats no excuse.
She is going say the same stuff she said before..
blah blah blah how the whites treated us back in the day, and then she will go on to day, your Genration will be the one that breaks the mold.
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:24 am Post subject:
hello Enna, im not saying that i dont value them at all, i know i may sound like im such a spoiled brat but im not, im sooo nice to my parents and i worry that i might disappoint them.. i guess i just snapped on that line.. plus you dont know what type of person my dad is.. i told everything to Aka and she had no idea why hes like that. have you seen that movie CRASH? the dad who doesnt understand the world but himself?? hes like that but more worse...
anyway, i know you're a good person Enna, trying to make us think both sides, and i am.. im not trying to be selfish, i think its a selfish thing to do that they should run my own life when i can think of my own. but dont worry, i came to realize everything as i grow older and it doesnt bother me as much as before, i just have to ignore and move forward right? i was just spilling my guts cuz it was related to subaru's comments..
and i know you've tried to reason it out, and _embryoBxTCH is right! some parents mostly Asians just wouldnt budge, they'd probably hate the fact that they've been lectured or disscussed this with their son/daughter as if we know better... more or less, we might know more of the real world now bec. the world has change and the time they had in the past is past, and its beyond their time.
sorry im just blabbering hahah but thanks for your input.. you're like our counselor lol _________________
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:47 am Post subject:
MixxDreamer wrote:
hello Enna, im not saying that i dont value them at all, i know i may sound like im such a spoiled brat but im not, im sooo nice to my parents and i worry that i might disappoint them.. i guess i just snapped on that line.. plus you dont know half of what my dad is.. i told mostly everything to Aka and she had no idea why hes like that.
anyway, i know you're a good person Enna, trying to make us think both sides, and i am.. im not trying to be selfish, i think its a selfish thing to do that they should run my own life when i can think of my own. but dont worry, i came to realize everything as i grow older and it doesnt bother me as much as before, i just have to ignore and move forward right? i was just spilling my guts cuz it was related to subaru's comments..
and i know you've tried to reason it out, but some parents just wouldnt budge, they'd probably hate the fact that they've been lectured or disscussed this with their son/daughter as if we know better... more or less, we might know more of the real world now bec. the world has change and the time they had in the past is past, and its beyond their time.
sorry im just blabbering hahah but thanks for your input.
Hey MixxDreamer it is always good to get things off your chest. Especially when they are bothering you. I know that relationships with parents can be some of the most frustrating ones you may ever have in life. I think you will notice that I like to ask questions. That is just me! I didn't think you were a spoiled brat for any of your comments. You have a good heart. I think all parents want to feel they have some control over their children, no matter how old their children may get. Some parents are just plain stubborn and yes down right mean-spirited. Sometimes they wind up changing when they get very old or ill, and it is their children's time to take care of them.
We are each learning from each other. I enjoy coming to this board and reading and learning of other people's point of view. So thanks for your response MixxDreamer. You weren't blabbering you were saying things that needed to be said. Pure and simple.
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:24 am Post subject:
Sooooooo late here, but I have something to say. As far as people being products of the past and all...that is soooo very true. I see it everyday actually because I live in the south. If anyone ever tells you that racism no longer exists then they are flat out lying to your face . I see it everyday . I mean, my relatives would flip out if I brought home an Asian person. I made friends with a Korean guy while I was in college and he was really cool. One of my aunts overheard me talking about him and just had a plain old fit on me . Its mainly my mom's side of the family that goes crazy about dating outside of your race. But, as I've said in a previous thread a good percentage of my dad's family was from New Orleans. The color barriers have kind of been destroyed on that side of the family . My dad would have a problem with me dating anyone: black, white, asian, hispanic, whatever. I'm the baby girl in the family so he's just over protective no matter what. Race is not the issue with him . My mom wasn't hung up on that stuff either thank goodness.
Anyway, this is how I feel about dating outside of your race. Since the day that people from different countries began to make contact with each other there was bound to be some attraction across color boundaries. I don't think that there's anything wrong with it. As long as you're happy that's good enough for me . Also, I feel that if people have enough time to sit there and nit pick over someone dating a person outside of their race, then they have enough time to worry about and work out their own problems. The scientist in me want to reprimand people here in the US especially for being silly enough to think with such a one track mind. But since I know that I won't change anybody's mind and because this isn't a Biology forum/thread then I will comment no further. _________________
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:48 am Post subject:
Well, that's good to hear Subaru . I can understand your mom's POV, I really can. Especially since some of my family's the same way. If it were any other person I'd just flip them off and go on about my business. But since they're my family and I care about them, it puts me in a bit of a bind. I know that they have my best interest at heart, but those situations tend to be a little overbearing. I can completely and totally relate . _________________
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:50 am Post subject:
shoujo22 wrote:
Well, that's good to hear Subaru . I can understand your mom's POV, I really can. Especially since some of my family's the same way. If it were any other person I'd just flip them off and go on about my business. But since they're my family and I care about them, it puts me in a bit of a bind. I know that they have my best interest at heart, but those situations tend to be a little overbearing. I can completely and totally relate .
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:09 am Post subject:
shoujo22 wrote:
Sooooooo late here, but I have something to say. As far as people being products of the past and all...that is soooo very true. I see it everyday actually because I live in the south. If anyone ever tells you that racism no longer exists then they are flat out lying to your face . I see it everyday . I mean, my relatives would flip out if I brought home an Asian person. I made friends with a Korean guy while I was in college and he was really cool. One of my aunts overheard me talking about him and just had a plain old fit on me . Its mainly my mom's side of the family that goes crazy about dating outside of your race. But, as I've said in a previous thread a good percentage of my dad's family was from New Orleans. The color barriers have kind of been destroyed on that side of the family . My dad would have a problem with me dating anyone: black, white, asian, hispanic, whatever. I'm the baby girl in the family so he's just over protective no matter what. Race is not the issue with him . My mom wasn't hung up on that stuff either thank goodness.
Anyway, this is how I feel about dating outside of your race. Since the day that people from different countries began to make contact with each other there was bound to be some attraction across color boundaries. I don't think that there's anything wrong with it. As long as you're happy that's good enough for me . Also, I feel that if people have enough time to sit there and nit pick over someone dating a person outside of their race, then they have enough time to worry about and work out their own problems. The scientist in me want to reprimand people here in the US especially for being silly enough to think with such a one track mind. But since I know that I won't change anybody's mind and because this isn't a Biology forum/thread then I will comment no further.
SubauruWRX wrote:
my mom does not have a problem with me dating a hispanic because she says "They have black blood in them"
Speaking of that.. Since I told her this girl was French she was a bit courious until I told her she was around my complexion and she was fine.
her words were
"OH thats ok son!"
Well since we seem to be on the subject of parents and inter-racial dating or marriage I'll throw in my 2 cents. As I stated previously in the "What is your Ethnicity?" thread I am a black with a black Mom and a white Father. So I grew up living in a black suburbs of Long Island, NY and attending a black college and knowing that I am black. I also knew that most of my white Italian-American relatives did not want to associate with my family. My Dad could go into Brooklyn (his home turf) and attend family affairs. My Mom, my sister and I were not invited. Luckily my mother always kept the door and her heart open for all of my father's relatives to come out and visit us. So by the time I was a teenager I had met most of my father's relatives, all except my Grandfather. Now that they are all deceased I wonder what all that fuss and prejudice was really all about. The bottom line was that it was all about ignorance and fear. Stereotypes and utter nonsense. People are people. I used to get so angry over my fathers' side of the family but now I just feel compassion for them because they just didn't know any better. I also know there are plenty of black folks who don't want to see their offsprings date or marry outside of their race. One day all this nonsense will disappear. The more we have an interchange of ideas among all races and cultures the more we can break down the doors that our parents and grandparents kept locked shut.
Using this forum is pretty simple and what's so difficult anyway...jeez..
There's a post reply button and there's a post a new topic button..can't they just know the different?
Using this forum is pretty simple and what's so difficult anyway...jeez..
There's a post reply button and there's a post a new topic button..can't they just know the different?
This thing happens quite a lot lately..
That would piss me off as well... I wonder what the point of doing that was for? To piss people off?
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