yt wrote:

are you referring to the movie or the drama??

hey yt how's going
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student

i wonder what mo-e means....cute?

some1 pls enlighten me...

feipern wrote:

i wonder what mo-e means....cute? some1 pls enlighten me...

discussion on the word "moe:"

New language form Otaku world "MOE"


�gWalkman�h, �gKaraoke�h, �gAnime�h, and �gManga�h... There are words exported from Japanese entertainment culture to the rest of the world. Of course, the word "Otaku" is recognized outside of Japan as a word for fans of Japanese Anime and Manga.

However in Japan, the meaning of "Otaku" is "people who get deeply into a kitschy hobby." It's quite different from simply being a "fan". More often, many Japanese people think a REAL otaku is a guy who plays simulation love games of featuring anime-looking character. "Otaku" has a feeling of "can't be so proud to have this kind of hobby."

And now a new word has emerged from otaku culture. It is called "Moe."

To help you understand what it means, let me translate the brilliant explanation from "Learning from Akihabara: The Birth of a Personaopolis" by architectural
theorist Kaichiro Morikawa.

"What do you think of when you hear the word 'moe?'
You could split a group of people under thirty's in half based on their answer to this question. The first group are the people who think of plants sprouting the conventional meaning of the word. These are the people who don't know the new meaning of 'moe.' Then there are those who think of an anime or game character. They are the second group, and very roughly speaking, they are otaku or people who have a relation to otaku-like pursuits. Most people in the first group have no idea 'moe' has gained a new otaku-nuanced meaning."

"The new meaning of 'moe' is entirely caught up in issues surrounding hobbies and taste. Specifically, 'moe' means be attracted to a specific character or its specific partial element and to have a favor feeling toward it. 'Moe' suggests the condition of being infatuated with one character or thing and implies an image of someone burning with desire.

"The picture becomes clearer when we hear the frequent use of 'moe' referring to specific elements or characteristics, such as 'weak girl moe,' 'young lady moe,' and 'glasses moe.' The meaning of 'glasses moe' refers to a taste that is taken with a character who wears glasses; furthermore, this taste fetishizes the feature itself of glasses-wearing. In this case, glasses are the 'moe' element."


Also, here is a note written by Tomohiro Machiyama. (Although, please keep in mind that this is from a frank conversation, and is not his official statement on "moe.")

"In the 80's I knew everything about 'otaku' since I, myself, was the one. However, this case about 'moe' is not the same. First, this word started to appear after I moved to the USA, so I can't sense the situation clearly. Also, due to my age, I can only be attracted to woman over 30 and see women under 20 as daughters. When I told this to my friend Yanashita, he told me 'That's called "Moe", when you feel girl a girl is adorable without having sexual desire.'
What? Is that true?!. Anyway, I have to study more about this 'moe.' "

Being Otaku is a very indoor hobby and usually it happens in your room by yourself (reading manga, watching anime, playing games). You don't need someone else. In another sense, it's similar to masturbation. Also Japan prefers visuals instead of written words. Japanese prefer the essence of something rather than a logical explanation.
There are many fuuzoku (legal sex industry) in Japan, that offer paying customers everything from "peeping" "touch only" "cosplay" and so on.
Sure enough, most people enjoy actual sex. However, the sex industry in Japan can successfully run businesses to offer mental sexual stimulation.

This is similar to forms of sexual fetishism such as S&M and Bondage. The purpose of real fetishism is not intercourse. They are the for the sake of foreplay and mental orgasm.

The sex industry comparison is just an example to introduce the fetish side of the "moe" feeling. However then, why do people enjoy Anime look character to be even falling in love?

Please imagine the feeling when you first liked somebody. The passion pops up inside of your brain and heart. This is not logical and unexplainable. And "moe" is a feeling very similar to this specific moment.

Otaku culture, which produced the word "moe" entertains this type of special intangible feeling, such as anime, dojinshi and love simulation games.

Actually, this "moe" feeling you can find in pop culture is nothing new. Every teenager experiences it. For boys it was becoming an idol fan, while the girls screamed fir rock and roll stars. You fantasize about the star, longing for a person whom you can never touch or have an actual conversation with.

Another explanation about "moe" is that girls have already been using this language for a long time, like the word "Kawaii! (cute!)". Girls love cute things. And now, for the first time, boys have found the feeling and a way to express it. This explains clearly what Yanashita said. "Moe" doesn't always points to a sexual object and includes the feeling of "how cute!!"

Just as platonic love requires a kind of mental satisfaction, anime and manga fits right in with the inner world of virtual love.

Usually when you become an adult, you become busy and too logical to surrender to adolescent fantasy. However, otaku continues to have (and wanting to have) "moe" no matter how old they become.

Today, because of technological development, 2-D characters started to react more complex and show unique behavior. Therefore, Gal-Ge (love simulation games) have had a huge boom among many otaku. Then due to the necessity of expressing their joy, "moe" has become a common word.

Yep. You could say that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mo%C3%A9
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Akasaka Hiker wrote:

Yep. You could say that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mo%C3%A9

that's hilarious there's a wikipedia entry on "moe"...the world is going to shit, i tell ya....

Tu_triky wrote:

that's hilarious there's a wikipedia entry on "moe"...the world is going to shit, i tell ya....

^ ROFL!!!

are-you*slaps knees while catching breath laughing*-effin-kidding-me????

*falls of bed again* a wikipedia entry on "Moe"

littlemissfab wrote:

^ ROFL!!! are-you*slaps knees while catching breath laughing*-effin-kidding-me???? *falls of bed again* a wikipedia entry on "Moe"

that's what i call ri-cock-ulous not ridiculous.....

akasacapple wrote:

hey yt how's going

hi, how are you doing

alfin wrote:

glad to hear from you guys... i thought i will never get a reply... haha.... Quote: are you referring to the movie or the drama?? i never heard that there is a movie for densha otoko till i read it in this forum.. and so as an answer to that, i watched the drama... so, is the movie as good as the drama??? i understand that when you watch a good film, you will want it to be as long as possible, as detail as possible and so you dont have to part with it just yet. sometimes i watch an OVA of anime and find it very frustrating coz it ended so sudden and there isnt much about anything inside, just a tiny bit of everything is present. well, it is indeed enough but then im not satisfied. so tell me, YT, is the movie interesting??? does it show us a different angle of densha otoko or it just summarize the drama and pack it into a 3 hours one?? bye~nara........

Densha Movie
http://jdorama.com/viewtopic.6696.htm

Actually, I've heard about moe in the anime circles. Something that goes with bishoujo, shoujo, yaoi, yuri and now, moe.
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Akasaka Hiker wrote:

Actually, I've heard about moe in the anime circles. Something that goes with bishoujo, shoujo, yaoi, yuri and now, moe.

indeed but the fact that's it's generated such a buzz is quite fascinating

YT!!!! hahahahah you're so funny with the ""

i was going to say something about byaku.. but then again.. we have a thread for that..

oh yeah.. where can i get a dvd copy of Densha? The one i have is totally ripped from the cinemas and the subs are close to nothing.. seriously.. a lot of scenes were missing lines and although i can understand it.. i just want to be sure..

littlemissfab wrote:

YT!!!! hahahahah you're so funny with the "" i was going to say something about byaku.. but then again.. we have a thread for that.. oh yeah.. where can i get a dvd copy of Densha? The one i have is totally ripped from the cinemas and the subs are close to nothing.. seriously.. a lot of scenes were missing lines and although i can understand it.. i just want to be sure..

you can get the proper DVD copy from the torrent link that Piri-Chan posted

in the Yamada thread, not sure if it is english subbed though...

now i see. so the English sub of Densha Otoko is not yet released?

hmmm...if i download the Japanese version then it will be the same as not watching it at all. so i will just wait patiently. hehee....

so this time in the movie, the actor and actress will be better??? specially the ACTOR. if they can get a handsome actor to do an OTAKU patheticness acts, then no matter how pathetic it is, it still wont be worse than the drama's actor.... good thing.......

thanks again , YT.......
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I just finished watching Densha Otoko, and I really liked it. I had a question about the special episode. Was Tiffany played by Sonim? It looked like her to me, and also the song that was playing sounded like her to me...Does anyone know? Thanks

Roppongi04 wrote:

I had a question about the special episode. Was Tiffany played by Sonim? It looked like her to me:

yup...you're right.........

Did anyone make a gif with the famous "KITAAA" going through space?

Thank you
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Orion wrote:

yup...you're right.........

I thought so Do you know what the song is called and if Sonim sang it? I heard it twice during the drama. Anyway, it was playing when Tiffany was reunited with the Baseball Fan.

Sorry if this might've already been brought up in this thread, I haven't read all 30 pages yet.

Was wondering if such a thing exists -- something like a fan-made English DVD cover for Densha Otoko. I was thinking of giving the series to a friend of mine for Valentine's and thought -- if there's already a fan cover, maybe I'd print that out to use in the case. Anyone know?

Thank you!

Roppongi04 wrote:

I thought so Do you know what the song is called and if Sonim sang it? I heard it twice during the drama. Anyway, it was playing when Tiffany was reunited with the Baseball Fan.

Yea, I was also wondering what the song was that played while the baseball fan was running to where tiffany stayed? Anybody know, please respond, lol. The song is used mostly when they are chasing somebody, like when densha tries to see where the stalker photographer was. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

Check out this Otaku's room. Caps taken from TV Champion King Of Figures ep 1-26-2006

This dude makes Densha's room look normal
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