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atleast13



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

i had a successful trade with pinksakura2000, mikkichan, limpaway, tikleabbuble

awesome traders!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

finally updated!!!!

note: i'm finally done directing the play that i was working on, so i might have a bit more time to do this thread. but just don't be too surprised if the updates don't come super often.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I recommended limpaway is a reliable trader. =P
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Got blanks from CoolRice. Fast Shipper and also reliable. w00t!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hello!
I apologize ahead of time for the length of this post but I need to state all facts.. I've been in contact privately with a few of the forum members for help on this issue and was told to bring it to the attention of everyone..
Shameful Cry
Right now I'm very upset over a distro transaction I had.. Has anyone ever dealt with this new guy on the forum, LandRover? Real name David Lin? Email address [email protected] (which I understand he also uses another email address [email protected]) ?
I'm looking for any advice on how to handle this.. I've never run into a problem like this before..

This guy had placed an order of 26 dvds, after I had burned them
all in -R's (but before sent out) he asked me to do +R's cause his player is fussy and only plays certain dvds.. I explained I never use +R's so I'd have to go out and buy them and redo everything.. he stated again his player is fussy and will only use +R's anyways.. I said I wanted him to be happy and would redo everything.. Grumble within a few days he placed another larger order (total of 67 dvds) which I went out and bought more +R's to complete the second order.. in the meantime he received the first part of his order which I had sent a total of 39 dvds.. the 26 from the first order plus 13 that I was able to finish from the second order.. he emailed me saying he had a problem with one whole series and 2 separate discs. I told him I'd replace them.. next day later he emails me saying he checked the discs over again and now none of them work.. and he wants to return them and get a full refund.. Plus cancel the second order and get a full refund.. I had just emailed him earlier saying his second part of the order was complete except for a couple discs and would be ready to send.. then I got another email stating only 1 maybe 2 of the discs in the whole series didn't work.. 3 separate emails he states different things.. I suggested to him it could be his player and if he plans on watching dramas it might be worth the investment to purchase a Phillips dvd player (which I did thanks to Eve) which plays everything that other players won't....

It's not just the fact that I spent extra money buying +R's that I don't ever use.. and on series that most people don't always ask for.. or the fact that it took me over a week (and putting all my other trades on hold) to burn 93 dvds.. converting them from vhs to dvd and now expects a full refund on everything.

I have gone over and above to accommodate him.. (which I know for a fact he purchased from someone else here and they refused to do the +R's yet the -R's worked fine for him) But I agreed to redo everything to +R as he requested after the fact.. offered to replace the bad ones.. I asked him to send them back for me to check them first. I know from past experiences some people have older players and just don't play everything that's why I suggested he buy the Phillips. I can understand there may be some errors.. it happens with all of us.. but I trade with 4 people weekly and don't have this kind of problem..

I even used his +R copies to burn myself a master in -R (with no errors) since I prefer using -R's

After discussing this problem with some of the members here I offered him two options.. to send back any discs to be redone that had errors.. and double check all the new ones to make sure there were no errors and he finds a way to play them.. (it's not my fault if he has equipment problems)
Or he returns everything that was sent so far (which he is doing) and I refund his money minus the cost of the raw +R's I used special for his order.. since I had to go out and buy them.. (which I have the receipts to show) not even asking for my time and labor in converting these all for him.. But he demands a Full Refund!!
I can't believe people have no concern for other and the work or time we
put into this.. I have a good reputation and am pretty flexible to accommodate people but I feel I'm being taken advantage of.
Any suggestions?

Thanks for your input..
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

i had a successful trade with coolrice
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Successful trade with bbgirl03, too Mr Green
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Successful trade with dramadrama for second time. She is a great trader and reliable. I received dvds, but the discs are errors. She replaced discs I requested. Thanks again Victory! Peace!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I had a successful trade with baybeehxsleepi. She is a reliable trader and willing to replace discs if I have problems with the discs. Thanks! Mr Green
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hanashimi wrote:
Hello!
I apologize ahead of time for the length of this post but I need to state all facts.. I've been in contact privately with a few of the forum members for help on this issue and was told to bring it to the attention of everyone..
Shameful Cry
Right now I'm very upset over a distro transaction I had.. Has anyone ever dealt with this new guy on the forum, LandRover? Real name David Lin? Email address [email protected] (which I understand he also uses another email address [email protected]) ?
I'm looking for any advice on how to handle this.. I've never run into a problem like this before..

This guy had placed an order of 26 dvds, after I had burned them
all in -R's (but before sent out) he asked me to do +R's cause his player is fussy and only plays certain dvds.. I explained I never use +R's so I'd have to go out and buy them and redo everything.. he stated again his player is fussy and will only use +R's anyways.. I said I wanted him to be happy and would redo everything.. Grumble within a few days he placed another larger order (total of 67 dvds) which I went out and bought more +R's to complete the second order.. in the meantime he received the first part of his order which I had sent a total of 39 dvds.. the 26 from the first order plus 13 that I was able to finish from the second order.. he emailed me saying he had a problem with one whole series and 2 separate discs. I told him I'd replace them.. next day later he emails me saying he checked the discs over again and now none of them work.. and he wants to return them and get a full refund.. Plus cancel the second order and get a full refund.. I had just emailed him earlier saying his second part of the order was complete except for a couple discs and would be ready to send.. then I got another email stating only 1 maybe 2 of the discs in the whole series didn't work.. 3 separate emails he states different things.. I suggested to him it could be his player and if he plans on watching dramas it might be worth the investment to purchase a Phillips dvd player (which I did thanks to Eve) which plays everything that other players won't....

It's not just the fact that I spent extra money buying +R's that I don't ever use.. and on series that most people don't always ask for.. or the fact that it took me over a week (and putting all my other trades on hold) to burn 93 dvds.. converting them from vhs to dvd and now expects a full refund on everything.

I have gone over and above to accommodate him.. (which I know for a fact he purchased from someone else here and they refused to do the +R's yet the -R's worked fine for him) But I agreed to redo everything to +R as he requested after the fact.. offered to replace the bad ones.. I asked him to send them back for me to check them first. I know from past experiences some people have older players and just don't play everything that's why I suggested he buy the Phillips. I can understand there may be some errors.. it happens with all of us.. but I trade with 4 people weekly and don't have this kind of problem..

I even used his +R copies to burn myself a master in -R (with no errors) since I prefer using -R's

After discussing this problem with some of the members here I offered him two options.. to send back any discs to be redone that had errors.. and double check all the new ones to make sure there were no errors and he finds a way to play them.. (it's not my fault if he has equipment problems)
Or he returns everything that was sent so far (which he is doing) and I refund his money minus the cost of the raw +R's I used special for his order.. since I had to go out and buy them.. (which I have the receipts to show) not even asking for my time and labor in converting these all for him.. But he demands a Full Refund!!
I can't believe people have no concern for other and the work or time we
put into this.. I have a good reputation and am pretty flexible to accommodate people but I feel I'm being taken advantage of.
Any suggestions?

Thanks for your input..


That's terrible, Hanashimi!! Shake Head
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AznDramaGrl



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:27 pm    Post subject: Bad Trades Reply with quote Back to top

Hey everyone. Just letting you know to be careful of these traders, or at least ask them to send first.

NAME: Thinh Tran
EMAIL: [email protected] / [email protected]
WEBSITE: https://home.comcast.net/~nghitran/blogger/trade.htm
REASON: We've traded once and everything was fine, although she gave me a couple of defected discs, she promised to give me replacements for them on our next trade. On our next trade, we traded over 50 discs and around 15-20 of the discs that she've sent me were defected. So now I have around 4-5 viet-dubbed series that are incomplete. I emailed her three times and ask for replacements but there were no reply. Then I've been confirmed by another trader that she's a bad trader. So beware!

NAME: Sherri Lynn Johnson
EMAIL: [email protected]
ADDRESS: PO BOX 933 Kailua, Hawaii 96734
REASON: No respond to my 4 emails and warningsn of posting her on my black list. I've never received her portion of the trade after sending her my portion.

NAME: Loraine D
EMAIL: [email protected]
REASON: No respond to my 4 emails and warnings. I've never received her portion of the trade.

NAME: Marissa Nakamura
EMAIL: [email protected]
REASON: After confirming trade & i burn out dvds, she emailed & said 2 of her dvds are defected & she needs to get replacements & will get back to me. Been about a month & still no email. I emailed her back & no reply. i'm willing to take her off my black list if she email me to resolve.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Question 1, what was the method of payment?

Also, when his package comes in, DON'T OPEN IT. I'd explain to him that since the dvdrs consumables, you can only offer him a partial refund. (What he paid you - (Total Cost of DVDR / # of DVDs * number of DVDs used)), and offer to send him back the dvds you burned for him. After that, just write "RETURN TO SENDER" on the package, and bring it back to the post office that way you don't have to pay postage.

Hanashimi wrote:
Hello!
I apologize ahead of time for the length of this post but I need to state all facts.. I've been in contact privately with a few of the forum members for help on this issue and was told to bring it to the attention of everyone..
Shameful Cry
Right now I'm very upset over a distro transaction I had.. Has anyone ever dealt with this new guy on the forum, LandRover? Real name David Lin? Email address [email protected] (which I understand he also uses another email address [email protected]) ?
I'm looking for any advice on how to handle this.. I've never run into a problem like this before..

This guy had placed an order of 26 dvds, after I had burned them
all in -R's (but before sent out) he asked me to do +R's cause his player is fussy and only plays certain dvds.. I explained I never use +R's so I'd have to go out and buy them and redo everything.. he stated again his player is fussy and will only use +R's anyways.. I said I wanted him to be happy and would redo everything.. Grumble within a few days he placed another larger order (total of 67 dvds) which I went out and bought more +R's to complete the second order.. in the meantime he received the first part of his order which I had sent a total of 39 dvds.. the 26 from the first order plus 13 that I was able to finish from the second order.. he emailed me saying he had a problem with one whole series and 2 separate discs. I told him I'd replace them.. next day later he emails me saying he checked the discs over again and now none of them work.. and he wants to return them and get a full refund.. Plus cancel the second order and get a full refund.. I had just emailed him earlier saying his second part of the order was complete except for a couple discs and would be ready to send.. then I got another email stating only 1 maybe 2 of the discs in the whole series didn't work.. 3 separate emails he states different things.. I suggested to him it could be his player and if he plans on watching dramas it might be worth the investment to purchase a Phillips dvd player (which I did thanks to Eve) which plays everything that other players won't....

It's not just the fact that I spent extra money buying +R's that I don't ever use.. and on series that most people don't always ask for.. or the fact that it took me over a week (and putting all my other trades on hold) to burn 93 dvds.. converting them from vhs to dvd and now expects a full refund on everything.

I have gone over and above to accommodate him.. (which I know for a fact he purchased from someone else here and they refused to do the +R's yet the -R's worked fine for him) But I agreed to redo everything to +R as he requested after the fact.. offered to replace the bad ones.. I asked him to send them back for me to check them first. I know from past experiences some people have older players and just don't play everything that's why I suggested he buy the Phillips. I can understand there may be some errors.. it happens with all of us.. but I trade with 4 people weekly and don't have this kind of problem..

I even used his +R copies to burn myself a master in -R (with no errors) since I prefer using -R's

After discussing this problem with some of the members here I offered him two options.. to send back any discs to be redone that had errors.. and double check all the new ones to make sure there were no errors and he finds a way to play them.. (it's not my fault if he has equipment problems)
Or he returns everything that was sent so far (which he is doing) and I refund his money minus the cost of the raw +R's I used special for his order.. since I had to go out and buy them.. (which I have the receipts to show) not even asking for my time and labor in converting these all for him.. But he demands a Full Refund!!
I can't believe people have no concern for other and the work or time we
put into this.. I have a good reputation and am pretty flexible to accommodate people but I feel I'm being taken advantage of.
Any suggestions?

Thanks for your input..

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Buruburu wrote:
Question 1, what was the method of payment?

Also, when his package comes in, DON'T OPEN IT. I'd explain to him that since the dvdrs consumables, you can only offer him a partial refund. (What he paid you - (Total Cost of DVDR / # of DVDs * number of DVDs used)), and offer to send him back the dvds you burned for him. After that, just write "RETURN TO SENDER" on the package, and bring it back to the post office that way you don't have to pay postage.



That sounds like a good idea to me. Thumbsup
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hanashimi wrote:
Hello!
I apologize ahead of time for the length of this post but I need to state all facts.. I've been in contact privately with a few of the forum members for help on this issue and was told to bring it to the attention of everyone..
Shameful Cry
Right now I'm very upset over a distro transaction I had.. Has anyone ever dealt with this new guy on the forum, LandRover? Real name David Lin? Email address [email protected] (which I understand he also uses another email address [email protected]) ?
I'm looking for any advice on how to handle this.. I've never run into a problem like this before..

This guy had placed an order of 26 dvds, after I had burned them
all in -R's (but before sent out) he asked me to do +R's cause his player is fussy and only plays certain dvds.. I explained I never use +R's so I'd have to go out and buy them and redo everything.. he stated again his player is fussy and will only use +R's anyways.. I said I wanted him to be happy and would redo everything.. Grumble within a few days he placed another larger order (total of 67 dvds) which I went out and bought more +R's to complete the second order.. in the meantime he received the first part of his order which I had sent a total of 39 dvds.. the 26 from the first order plus 13 that I was able to finish from the second order.. he emailed me saying he had a problem with one whole series and 2 separate discs. I told him I'd replace them.. next day later he emails me saying he checked the discs over again and now none of them work.. and he wants to return them and get a full refund.. Plus cancel the second order and get a full refund.. I had just emailed him earlier saying his second part of the order was complete except for a couple discs and would be ready to send.. then I got another email stating only 1 maybe 2 of the discs in the whole series didn't work.. 3 separate emails he states different things.. I suggested to him it could be his player and if he plans on watching dramas it might be worth the investment to purchase a Phillips dvd player (which I did thanks to Eve) which plays everything that other players won't....

It's not just the fact that I spent extra money buying +R's that I don't ever use.. and on series that most people don't always ask for.. or the fact that it took me over a week (and putting all my other trades on hold) to burn 93 dvds.. converting them from vhs to dvd and now expects a full refund on everything.

I have gone over and above to accommodate him.. (which I know for a fact he purchased from someone else here and they refused to do the +R's yet the -R's worked fine for him) But I agreed to redo everything to +R as he requested after the fact.. offered to replace the bad ones.. I asked him to send them back for me to check them first. I know from past experiences some people have older players and just don't play everything that's why I suggested he buy the Phillips. I can understand there may be some errors.. it happens with all of us.. but I trade with 4 people weekly and don't have this kind of problem..

I even used his +R copies to burn myself a master in -R (with no errors) since I prefer using -R's

After discussing this problem with some of the members here I offered him two options.. to send back any discs to be redone that had errors.. and double check all the new ones to make sure there were no errors and he finds a way to play them.. (it's not my fault if he has equipment problems)
Or he returns everything that was sent so far (which he is doing) and I refund his money minus the cost of the raw +R's I used special for his order.. since I had to go out and buy them.. (which I have the receipts to show) not even asking for my time and labor in converting these all for him.. But he demands a Full Refund!!
I can't believe people have no concern for other and the work or time we
put into this.. I have a good reputation and am pretty flexible to accommodate people but I feel I'm being taken advantage of.
Any suggestions?

Thanks for your input..


wow. that's really bad.

first of all, if he knew from the start that his player doesn't play dvd-r's he should have told you that from the bat. dvd-r is universal so you would assume that almost everyone can play it. i'm really suspicious of this guy cuz i got more than 100 dvd's from one of the traders here and ALL of them worked. it's amazing that out of 39 dvd's only 2 or 3 work.

definitely don't refund all. subtract the cost of +r's, and cost of ALL the dvd's you used.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Eve wrote:


That sounds like a good idea to me. Thumbsup


This is of course, the ideal situation. If he refuses, be prepared to send the package back to him with some sort of tracking, and a lot of annoyance. Angry
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Buruburu wrote:


This is of course, the ideal situation. If he refuses, be prepared to send the package back to him with some sort of tracking, and a lot of annoyance. Angry


Thanks for your input.. he did pay through paypal.. his last reply also stated if I sent any discs back he would just keep sending them back to me.. cause none of them work.. which I really find hard to believe since I trade with so many people here on a regular basis and maybe have a bad dvd here or there.. he's just being unreasonable.. and down out rude.
I would never treat someone this way..

I guess it doesn't pay to be nice sometimes.. Bang Head
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atleast13 wrote:


wow. that's really bad.

first of all, if he knew from the start that his player doesn't play dvd-r's he should have told you that from the bat. dvd-r is universal so you would assume that almost everyone can play it. i'm really suspicious of this guy cuz i got more than 100 dvd's from one of the traders here and ALL of them worked. it's amazing that out of 39 dvd's only 2 or 3 work.

definitely don't refund all. subtract the cost of +r's, and cost of ALL the dvd's you used.


To be honest I really wonder if he even knows the difference with + and - R.. I checked out the specs for his player (after someone here suggesting it) on the main Pioneer site and it never showed playing +R's.. on another site it did mention +R's but in their comments most people said it had problems.. a few others said it would play anything..

I'm very suspicious also.. especially when in 3 different emails he goes from one series and 2 seperate discs not working to none of them working to maybe 1 or 2 discs in a series not working. I know on the first batch I spot checked some of the discs.. (my mistake) but I did check most of them and even burned copies from them onto -R's so I'd have a master set from my vhs tapes.. and they all burned fine with no errors.. go figure!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hanashimi wrote:
Hello!
I apologize ahead of time for the length of this post but I need to state all facts.. I've been in contact privately with a few of the forum members for help on this issue and was told to bring it to the attention of everyone..
Shameful Cry
Right now I'm very upset over a distro transaction I had.. Has anyone ever dealt with this new guy on the forum, LandRover? Real name David Lin? Email address [email protected] (which I understand he also uses another email address [email protected]) ?
I'm looking for any advice on how to handle this.. I've never run into a problem like this before..

This guy had placed an order of 26 dvds, after I had burned them
all in -R's (but before sent out) he asked me to do +R's cause his player is fussy and only plays certain dvds.. I explained I never use +R's so I'd have to go out and buy them and redo everything.. he stated again his player is fussy and will only use +R's anyways.. I said I wanted him to be happy and would redo everything.. Grumble within a few days he placed another larger order (total of 67 dvds) which I went out and bought more +R's to complete the second order.. in the meantime he received the first part of his order which I had sent a total of 39 dvds.. the 26 from the first order plus 13 that I was able to finish from the second order.. he emailed me saying he had a problem with one whole series and 2 separate discs. I told him I'd replace them.. next day later he emails me saying he checked the discs over again and now none of them work.. and he wants to return them and get a full refund.. Plus cancel the second order and get a full refund.. I had just emailed him earlier saying his second part of the order was complete except for a couple discs and would be ready to send.. then I got another email stating only 1 maybe 2 of the discs in the whole series didn't work.. 3 separate emails he states different things.. I suggested to him it could be his player and if he plans on watching dramas it might be worth the investment to purchase a Phillips dvd player (which I did thanks to Eve) which plays everything that other players won't....

It's not just the fact that I spent extra money buying +R's that I don't ever use.. and on series that most people don't always ask for.. or the fact that it took me over a week (and putting all my other trades on hold) to burn 93 dvds.. converting them from vhs to dvd and now expects a full refund on everything.

I have gone over and above to accommodate him.. (which I know for a fact he purchased from someone else here and they refused to do the +R's yet the -R's worked fine for him) But I agreed to redo everything to +R as he requested after the fact.. offered to replace the bad ones.. I asked him to send them back for me to check them first. I know from past experiences some people have older players and just don't play everything that's why I suggested he buy the Phillips. I can understand there may be some errors.. it happens with all of us.. but I trade with 4 people weekly and don't have this kind of problem..

I even used his +R copies to burn myself a master in -R (with no errors) since I prefer using -R's

After discussing this problem with some of the members here I offered him two options.. to send back any discs to be redone that had errors.. and double check all the new ones to make sure there were no errors and he finds a way to play them.. (it's not my fault if he has equipment problems)
Or he returns everything that was sent so far (which he is doing) and I refund his money minus the cost of the raw +R's I used special for his order.. since I had to go out and buy them.. (which I have the receipts to show) not even asking for my time and labor in converting these all for him.. But he demands a Full Refund!!
I can't believe people have no concern for other and the work or time we
put into this.. I have a good reputation and am pretty flexible to accommodate people but I feel I'm being taken advantage of.
Any suggestions?

Thanks for your input..


With such a variance in media types (-r, +r, rw) and brands (high end and low end), people need to specify (in advance) what they need before making a big request and paying for it. If I'm paying out, I want to know exactly what I'm getting, so I would ask. Hanashimi, if you don't have it specified on your site, I would suggest that you put up there "DVD-R only - No Exceptions". You shouldn't have to buy another type of media that you don't even use. I wouldn't have budged on that, whether he's new or not used to this type of thing or not. I don't go out and buy stuff just for one person. If they don't like my brands or whatever, oh well, better go to someone else. He locked himself in, then asked you to do DVD+R after it was too late. That left you with an extra set that you have to sell/trade off to someone else.

As for the next thing. He first said that some disks did not work. Then he checked them all and NONE worked? Does that mean they worked before and just stopped working????? Crazy He shouldn't have contacted until he checked EVERYTHING. In these times we must have another means of verifying. I've had things work flawlessly in my DVD player and strangely on my computer (and vice versa). Maybe I'm nuts but in my experience, older or more finicky players tend to be more likely to play DVD-R, not DVD+R. I haven't come across that, really.

I say he needs to send everything back before a refund is even considered. If they work on 2 or more of your pieces of equipment, I say he's $h!t out of luck....it's not your problem. Send it back and the deal is done. You will have already spent more money out of pocket to send them back. He does not deserve a full refund. He intended on buying all of it, so as long as they are functional the deal should be done. It's not a RENT DEAL. I'm not saying he is doing this, but some people rip people by buying, copying everything, then trying to get a return-refund or exchange. If he has faulty, finicky, or outdated equipment, that is not your responsibility. He should have checked first before making a second huge order.

I have come across traders in the past who did things like that just to have time to burn everything, then tell me they need replacements. THEN, they'd send back and I'd check them and say "I have no problem". Then, the next response would be a request for a different series to replace them. My response was "Forget it", because that right there gave me a clue that they were trying to get more than they deserved. Then they could have pulled the same thing again, continuing to rip me. One time when this happened, I was adamant on only replacing the series the person reported problems with. I checked them after they sent them back and they were fine. After I wouldn't budge, they said "Ok, just replace them, as long as they work it's ok". I sent the exact same set back, b/c I verified them on 4 different machines and was SURE they worked. I asked that they check them and let me know the final answer. I got a reply: "The replacements arrived and they work. Thank you and sorry for the trouble.". rofl
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

KouSeiya315 wrote:


With such a variance in media types (-r, +r, rw) and brands (high end and low end), people need to specify (in advance) what they need before making a big request and paying for it. If I'm paying out, I want to know exactly what I'm getting, so I would ask. Hanashimi, if you don't have it specified on your site, I would suggest that you put up there "DVD-R only - No Exceptions". You shouldn't have to buy another type of media that you don't even use. I wouldn't have budged on that, whether he's new or not used to this type of thing or not. I don't go out and buy stuff just for one person. If they don't like my brands or whatever, oh well, better go to someone else. He locked himself in, then asked you to do DVD+R after it was too late. That left you with an extra set that you have to sell/trade off to someone else.

As for the next thing. He first said that some disks did not work. Then he checked them all and NONE worked? Does that mean they worked before and just stopped working????? Crazy He shouldn't have contacted until he checked EVERYTHING. In these times we must have another means of verifying. I've had things work flawlessly in my DVD player and strangely on my computer (and vice versa). Maybe I'm nuts but in my experience, older or more finicky players tend to be more likely to play DVD-R, not DVD+R. I haven't come across that, really.

I say he needs to send everything back before a refund is even considered. If they work on 2 or more of your pieces of equipment, I say he's $h!t out of luck....it's not your problem. Send it back and the deal is done. You will have already spent more money out of pocket to send them back. He does not deserve a full refund. He intended on buying all of it, so as long as they are functional the deal should be done. It's not a RENT DEAL. I'm not saying he is doing this, but some people rip people by buying, copying everything, then trying to get a return-refund or exchange. If he has faulty, finicky, or outdated equipment, that is not your responsibility. He should have checked first before making a second huge order.

I have come across traders in the past who did things like that just to have time to burn everything, then tell me they need replacements. THEN, they'd send back and I'd check them and say "I have no problem". Then, the next response would be a request for a different series to replace them. My response was "Forget it", because that right there gave me a clue that they were trying to get more than they deserved. Then they could have pulled the same thing again, continuing to rip me. One time when this happened, I was adamant on only replacing the series the person reported problems with. I checked them after they sent them back and they were fine. After I wouldn't budge, they said "Ok, just replace them, as long as they work it's ok". I sent the exact same set back, b/c I verified them on 4 different machines and was SURE they worked. I asked that they check them and let me know the final answer. I got a reply: "The replacements arrived and they work. Thank you and sorry for the trouble.". rofl


Thank you for your input KouSeiya315 I really appreciate it.. the more and more I think about this I agree with you.. he placed the orders.. had intent to buy.. paid for them.. and insisted on +R even after I told him not too many people use +R.. that -R is the most common.. but the softy I am I agreed to redo the first 26 he had ordered onto +R and continued with the second half on +R.

I did receive the first 39 discs back today. My youngest girl had voice lessons and then an audition for a school part so I was only able to check 29 of them so far. I first scanned them all with Nero for errors.. then I played them in 3 of my dvd players.. of those only 1 had an error and wouldn't play. I did notice on the disc there were dye/water marks.. so I'm assuming it was a bad disc to begin.. (not sure why the scan didn't pick it up after burning originally) So so far he is a liar.. and again.. the first email from him was one whole series and 2 seperate discs didn't play at all.. (I found no errors on those and they played fine) the next email he stated he had more time and went thru all of them again.. this time none of them played.. the third email he stated (after I told him I find that hard to believe) that maybe 1 or 2 discs out of a series didn't play.. he has changed his story so many times..

I do wonder also if he is trying to pull a scam.. after getting all three of those emails in a day.. I was so upset that I commented as far as I knew he made copies for himself and was looking for something free.. it was then his next email he told well to keep the second half (67 discs) and just give him a full refund. I tried working with him on so many things with this transaction.. but no more nice girl Shake Head

Another thing that was strange.. I know someone else who he bought from here (I won't say her name at this time.. not sure if she'd want me to) but we were talking on the phone about this and I told her his name.. she said he ordered from her and wanted +R as well but she told him no.. so he took the -R.. (which played fine for him) and the series she sent him.. were series she got from me and burned from my copies I sent her.
What I'm thinking is he screwed up and thought he could only play +R and then realized he goofed up and doesn't want to own up to his mistake. I asked him the player he has and the model.. a friend of mine on the Japanese Drama Club (I know you know him) said he'd check for me the specs on the machine.. if you look at the manufacturer's specs.. it states clearly -R, -RW etc but no where +R but on another site he found where people were able to play +R's no problem.. and even some reviews stated the ones that played the best were burn with Nero (what I use)

I'll PM you to tell you some other things.. Thanks again!!
I really don't see how he is going to get away with this..
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Oh another thing that really pissed me off.. when I got the discs back alot of them had scuffs and scratches on.. and that is not how they left me..
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