haha yeah the avatar is very appropriate in this situation, in fact its appropriate for this entire week.

-Fabu- wrote:

Ahh no I was 50 mb away from watching Battle Royale! so how long do you think it would take for d-addicts to come back online?

Your answer:

Ruroshin wrote:

Well I'm trying to find a new host now and hopefully get the site backup and running by the weekend, no promises though.

I'm sure he'll update us as soon as he knows anything. We might as well keep the "Is it back up yet?", "When will it be fixed?", "But I need to download ______ right now!", and "Oh no, this sucks! What am I gonna do?" posts to a minimum. They won't really help the situation while Ruroshin is working to get d-addicts back up. Valid questions and advice are fine, of course. I would suggest people don't bug him with the type of questions I mentioned because they have already been covered.

KouSeiya315 wrote:

I'm sure he'll update us as soon as he knows anything. We might as well keep the "Is it back up yet?", "When will it be fixed?", "But I need to download ______ right now!", and "Oh no, this sucks! What am I gonna do?" posts to a minimum. They won't really help the situation while Ruroshin is working to get d-addicts back up. Valid questions and advice are fine, of course. I would suggest people don't bug him with the type of questions I mentioned because they have already been covered.

yeah. just hang in there. If you really really really want those stuff that you can't wait. there are many other ways to get those.

hopefully, there will be a better solution for ruroshin. And perhaps some organization of the types of torrents being posted will be put in place to lower the load on the trackers.

all shall hail ruro.

oh yeah. prepare for lotsa refugees asking about their dls.

ahh... so thats what happened to d-addicts. damn i was going through withdrawals, not being able to log into d-addicts.
hope everything is better after you get the site up and running.
ganbatte!
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aw man that sucks. Hey if you need a good host try checking out www.topclasshost.com

I use them, very good service and cheap too

eltinator wrote:

aw man that sucks. Hey if you need a good host try checking out www.topclasshost.com I use them, very good service and cheap too

Problem is he needs 200GB of transfers per month, for under $40/month. For now, I'm helping Ruroshin set up a tracker on my groink server. The server is sitting on an OC-3 connection with unlimited bandwidth. There's some work to be done seeing the server's BT tracker software is different from what he was using (mine is running via Python, with no MySQL DB involved like what d-addicts was previously running).

--- groink

Does this mean i can't finished any of the incomplete dramas? I knew something like this was going to happened sonner or later. hopefully it will be back up soon.

groink wrote:

Problem is he needs 200GB of transfers per month, for under $40/month. For now, I'm helping Ruroshin set up a tracker on my groink server. The server is sitting on an OC-3 connection with unlimited bandwidth. There's some work to be done seeing the server's BT tracker software is different from what he was using (mine is running via Python, with no MySQL DB involved like what d-addicts was previously running). --- groink

Holy crap that's a lot of bandwidth

Hmmm not sure if topclasshost has any special package for people who need that amount of bandwidth. Anyways sorry I can't offer any other ideas

good luck with everything, i just discovered d-addicts recently and it's been great... i could care less about delays, but just don't go offline and forget to come back on

groink wrote:

Problem is he needs 200GB of transfers per month, for under $40/month. For now, I'm helping Ruroshin set up a tracker on my groink server. The server is sitting on an OC-3 connection with unlimited bandwidth. There's some work to be done seeing the server's BT tracker software is different from what he was using (mine is running via Python, with no MySQL DB involved like what d-addicts was previously running). --- groink

Holy....****. I haven't seen anything with 200 GB transfer for lower than maybe $100 a month, most averaging $200

KouSeiya315 wrote:

Holy....****. I haven't seen anything with 200 GB transfer for lower than maybe $100 a month, most averaging $200

Well, I doubt he'll ever use 200GB in one month, but you never know, right? Rather than moving from ISP to ISP, or bargain to bargain, if he can land a ISP with tons of transfers at a price he can afford, he'll no longer need to move. Everytime you need to move a site to a different ISP, a lot of things are involved -- stress, downtime, personal time, patience level of your users, among other things. So in practice, you always want to take your current usage, multiply it by 2 or even 4, then that's what your minimum capacity need is.

Personally, I think Suprnova.org is a good thing for leeches, but a bad thing for trackers. Imagine that on day 1, you have a very nice tracker with low bandwidth and a handful of users. Then on day 2, your site is Suprnova'd, and basically your site is bombarded by every walk of life on planet Earth. There's really nothing that the tracker can do at that point but to either increase capacity or shut down permanantly. That's why trackers like JEM and JTV do not like 3rd party trackers like d-addicts and Suprnova hosting their torrents. In JEM's case, he'd rather have his web site choke than to have others hosting his torrents and increase traffic on his tracker. In otherwords, his web site's performance is the component that trottles his overall tracker site. Now that I understand his philosophy, I fully agree with it.

I wish you could treat torrent files like how some free-based ISPs treat their images... If a torrent is accessed from outside of its own domain, just shut the transmission down and send the downloader back a 404 error or something like that. Unfortunately, unlike web server software, the BitTorrent protocol doesn't offer that kind of a feature.

So I would say, and I think others will agree with me once they understand JEM's philosphy, that postings of d-addicts torrents onto Suprnova should be totally avoided.

--- groink

groink-

it's great of you to help Ruroshin during this stressful time...if you guys need financial assistance then i'm your gurl...as i'm not too computer literate, i wouldn't be able to help you guys w/ technical stuff, but monetarily i could (considering i get most of my kdrama and kmovie fixes from d-addicts it would only be right...) i'll be patiently waiting for the return of d-addicts.

groink wrote:

Then on day 2, your site is Suprnova'd, and basically your site is bombarded by every walk of life on planet Earth. There's really nothing that the tracker can do at that point but to either increase capacity or shut down permanantly. That's why trackers like JEM and JTV do not like 3rd party trackers like d-addicts and Suprnova hosting their torrents.

Any encodes releasing goup wish for their files to be as popular as possible. So there is nothing wrong with torrent files being available at some other places. Trackers should be able to withstand any sane increase of traffic. Using suprnova doesnt create any signifcant impact on your tracker to be really bothered with.

However it may be a problem if those sites do not credit the orignal makers. Every human being is vain, so i imagine that seeing your work not being credited to you - and in many cases even credited to some completely unrelated person/site - may make you blood pressure go higher. Besides original makers may wish downloaders to visit their own sites. They simply do not fancy other sites "stealing" their "fame", just thanks to posting a few links.
So above could be the reason some groups dont wish their torrents to be offered on foreign sites.

Is there anyone bashing anime.mircx or animesuki? No. Makers are respected (links to their home pages provided).

As for suprnova, it is mainly a database which stores torrent files hosted by unrelated trackers (if you have seen a torrent file using suprnova tracker you were lucky).
As torrent files not being maitained (seeded) for some time are removed, suprnova is completely unacceptable as torrents store site, that is for people or groups who would like to post their torrents to some place and have them available for longer time. On the other hand, it completely fine for popular files. So if you make drama torrents and use suprnova for storing them, beware - soon they may dissapear and you will be to make them again.

groink wrote:

In JEM's case, he'd rather have his web site choke than to have others hosting his torrents and increase traffic on his tracker. In otherwords, his web site's performance is the component that trottles his overall tracker site. Now that I understand his philosophy, I fully agree with it.

Again i do not think that is the point.

groink wrote:

I wish you could treat torrent files like how some free-based ISPs treat their images...

This one seems for me to be the reason. Protecting your image and increasing familiarity of home site.

However if you chose bittorrent, you made a fundamental mistake because that is totally opposite to the whole idea behind bittorrent. Sorry, just think it over.

groink wrote:

So I would say, and I think others will agree with me once they understand JEM's philosphy, that postings of d-addicts torrents onto Suprnova should be totally avoided.

Not totally. Only because they may be removed after some time if unpopular. If you have your own place/site to store them, posting to suprnova is acceptable.

krys wrote:

Trackers should be able to withstand any sane increase of traffic. Using suprnova doesnt create any signifcant impact on your tracker to be really bothered with.

Well, it seems to me that groink and ruroshin are saying that the additional traffic from suprnova was. You say it isn't. Maybe we need to see some mrtg's up there

In any case, the bandwidth situation is apparently dire, so asking, at least temporarily, for people not to also post torrents with d-addicts announce urls to suprnova seems reasonable. At least til things get sorted out.

I do agree that this is a less than ideal solution, but it seems to me that the root of the problem is the BT protocol being such a b/w hog. Since it is doubtful that will be fixed soon, I think the pragmatic alternative is to try to limit the b/w consumption by convention, as groink suggested.

krys wrote:

However if you chose bittorrent, you made a fundamental mistake because that is totally opposite to the whole idea behind bittorrent. Sorry, just think it over.

You're totally right on this point... BT, by design as Vibius points out, is a very chatty protocol. And a couple of other articles I've read also blame the relationship between the BT protocol and firewalls and proxies used by end-users and ISPs. So if there was a better p2p protocol out there that utilizes bandwidth more efficiently, that would definitely help the bandwidth situation IF and ONLY IF the amount of hits stay the same.

Going back to Suprnova, yes, it also depends on how egostical the capturer is. I think all capturers, including myself, do like the attention received by the trading community. And we really hate having someone else take the credit, which is probably why I'm totally anti-eBay.

Without any MRTG graphs to show for, I think the increase in bandwidth specifically on d-addicts started when the Series of the Week was created. When Hotman became the SotW, that was the first time I've noticed the huge increase in downloads, resulting from Hotman being posted on Suprnova. Also, the Pride series received way more hits than I've seen in any other series posted on d-addicts (we're talking over 1000 downloads per episode), and I'm willing to bet it was because one or more 3rd-party trackers pointed to d-addicts.

Unfortunately, d-addicts is down otherwise I would point out the dialog one of the users had with JEM about 3rd-party sites hosting torrents pointing to his tracker. The reason JEM gave for "not encouraging the practice" was in reference to his theory of an increase of traffic on his tracker if he encouraged it. His web-based tracker page having problems is actually a good thing, considering that more likely the amount of traffic made on his tracker also dropped as a result.

So again, if people were to access the d-addicts torrents ONLY through his tracker page, the pipe and the performance of the web-based tracker page would be directly proportional to the traffic on the tracker service.

Otherwise, I can't see d-addicts surviving if the bandwidth usage increases even more without Ruroshin shelling out more money for an ISP that can tolerate his bandwidth needs. I agree that the best solution would be to increase services to handle the increase in bandwidth usage, but I can't see this happening purely on a limited budget basis.

--- groink

I'm willing to help financially too.

If everyone could donate 5 bucks per month...

Try checking http://powweb.com
$7.77 $ per month / 1000MB Disk Space/5 GB Transfer per Day.

I am currently using this and it is very fast. MySQL is also free. In case you want to use mine I can also provide. I have 850MB space free at present in my webspace. Will it be sufficient ?

manakun

FYI

1. Bandwidth was the original problem but it wasn't the cause of the shutdown.

I was with an 80 GB shared hosting plan. March being a 31 day month can take about 2.6 GB a day. D-Addicts started off the month averaging about 3 GBs a day so already I knew we were going to go over (last month was only about 2.2 GB a day so it shoot up pretty quick). This figure steadily climbed and peaked at about 4.5 GB per day by the middle of the month. By that time I was already in the process of moving over to a higher plan.

2. The plan was to move over to a semi dedicated server (by semi dedicated I mean I still had to share it with a couple of other users). This gave me 200 GB per month so I can survive an average 6.5 GB a day. This was going to be fine as I was going to move tracker offsite as well which should see a bit less than half of the traffic easing off. So this should give plenty of room for the main site to grow.

3. A problem emerged when it became known to me that JSP/Servlet was not offered on this higher plan (even though it was advertised). I needed the BW in a hurry so I accepted it and just rewrote the JSP/Servlet code in PHP.

4. Now the real problem came. Since this wasn't totally dedicated server I had to share it with a couple of other users so the host wanted the server rock solid stable. D-addicts including the trackers was getting as high as 153,600 hits an hour which is about 42.67 hits per second. All of these were to PHPs which were performing multiple database calls. This made the load on the box jump pretty high with me being the top user

This made the server rather unstable so they asked me to stop it. I had disabled Tracker2 to see if that helped but apparently it didn't. I was going to shutdown Tracker1 too but by that time they had pulled the plug on me and told me to move.

So thats the story. When the site goes back up it'll be composed of 3 seperate site.

1. Main site includes the forum and the torrent statistic index page.
2. Tracker site, these are scalable meaning I can add more Tracker site if needed.
3. Controlling site, this will be where you add the torrent and it'll figure out which Tracker site to update as well as updating the Main site.

Anyway, thats the plan. Currently have the Tracker site and Controlling site, now looking for the Main site.

ruroshin wrote:

D-addicts including the trackers was getting as high as 153,600 hits an hour which is about 42.67 hits per second.

seems like i wasn't the only one that thought d-addicts was amazing!

puccakiss79 wrote:

seems like i wasn't the only one that thought d-addicts was amazing!

A good chunk of that comes from the bittorrent "chatty" protocol. With the newest release of the official bittorrent client and tracker claiming huge bw savings I'm hoping this translate to less chatty times as well.