8thSin wrote:

Traditionally, summer is the weakest dorama season and lowest ratings. I wouldn't worry about it

so am to believe - that Code Blue who holds the highest ratings (new summer dorama) so far is due highly because of "fangirls" - the power those fandom's possess - they are the economic curve - incredible - you go girls

kirasano wrote:

you go girls

Yeah, they can go somewhere alright.

Kanto Region Summer 2008 Japanese Drama Ratings

Ando Natsu ___________________ 11.6__10.5__7.6__9.1__9.0
Taiyou to Umi no Kyoshitsu_______20.5__14.4__12.7
Shibatora ____________________ 13.0__12.2__13.4__14.0__11.7
Monster Parent _______________ 14.2__11.6__13.0__13.2__12.2__11.2
Gakkou ja Oshierarenai ________ 9.9__6.1__6.9__5.4
Gonzo: Densetsu no Keiji ______ 12.5__10.4__12.0__10.8__10.3__10.9
Seigi no Mikata ______________ 13.2__10.1__8.7__9.4__11.6
Yotsu no Uso ________________ 11.8__10.6__8.3__8.1
Code Blue ___________________ 21.2__16.0__16.0__13.2__15.7
Lotto 6 ______________________ 12.4__6.8__6.0__4.7__8.0
Maou _______________________ 14.0__12.6__9.2__10.1__10.9
Dageki Tenshi Ruri ____________ 10.0__7.4
Koizora _____________________ 5.6
Yasuko to Kenji _______________ 12.3__13.1__11.2__12.9
33-pun Tantei _________________ 12.2
Tomorrow ____________________ 16.8__13.9__13.5__10.8__10.3
Atsuhime _____________________ (continued..)_
26.0__26.2__24.3__25.8__24.6

bmwracer wrote:

Let us count the ways.... A lot of the blame has to go to the writers and production staff as well, since they sold their souls to the devil for ratings.

at least those who have watched LF have come to an agreement that the fault does not solely lies on his shoulders. he was given a poorly written character and couldn't find his way out of it. I still see some potential in him just because of Asou-kun in 1LoT.

tofuuuuu wrote:

at least those who have watched LF have come to an agreement that the fault does not solely lies on his shoulders. he was given a poorly written character and couldn't find his way out of it. I still see some potential in him just because of Asou-kun in 1LoT.

Certainly not, it's the fact that it's a fangirls' response to say that this show is the 'best ever' because of his performance...which honestly was probably the weakest (contested by Masami, but I blame that again on the writers since she's good at happier characters).

Tenshigure wrote:

Certainly not, it's the fact that it's a fangirls' response to say that this show is the 'best ever' because of his performance...which honestly was probably the weakest (contested by Masami, but I blame that again on the writers since she's good at happier characters).

so he is doom to be labeled as a weak actor all through his career because he has loud & blind fangirls? poor Ryo . As for Masami, so the writers should condone to the actors ability as opposed to the storyline? Gee... LF sure screwed some talents.

tofuuuuu wrote:

so he is doom to be labeled as a weak actor all through his career because he has loud & blind fangirls?

It doesn't help.

bmwracer wrote:

It doesn't help.

let me guess.. he has now fallen under the same category as Tackey, Jin, Kame, Matsujun, and Yamapi . Uh oh! Maybe even KimuTaku himself

tofuuuuu wrote:

let me guess.. he has now fallen under the same category as Tackey, Jin, Kame, Matsujun, and Yamapi . Uh oh! Maybe even KimuTaku himself

You said it, not us.

I think to get rid of that stereotype these actors/actresses need to diversify their roles instead of playing the same type (Kimutaku comes to mind, IMO)... People like Abe Hiroshi, Eita, Juri-chan, etc. are more true actors since they've played a number of different roles convincingly, showing their skill and versatility...

bmwracer wrote:

You said it, not us. I think to get rid of that stereotype these actors/actresses need to diversify their roles instead of playing the same type (Kimutaku comes to mind, IMO)... People like Abe Hiroshi, Eita, Juri-chan, etc. are more true actors since they've played a number of different roles convincingly, showing their skill and versatility...

Nope, just trying to emphasize the biasness (though I really shouldn't include Jun in that group. he's chosen diverse roles and delivers). Kimutaku seems impossible to play the loser roles. Maybe he should try to act as a transvestite then maybe finally he'll be recognized... but EXTRAORDINARY numbers already proven he is a GREAT actor.

btw, I'm not that impressed by Eita.

tofuuuuu wrote:

Kimutaku seems impossible to play the loser roles. Maybe he should try to act as a transvestite then maybe finally he'll be recognized... but EXTRAORDINARY numbers already proven he is a GREAT actor.

Numbers only indicate his popularity, nothing more.

Quote:

btw, I'm not that impressed by Eita.

I am... He's a very underrated actor.

I'll take his acting over Kimutaku's any day of the week.

marienella wrote:

Shibatora ____________________ 13.0__12.2__13.4__14.0__11.7 Monster Parent _______________ 14.2__11.6__13.0__13.2__12.2__11.2 Code Blue ___________________ 21.2__16.0__16.0__13.2__15.7 Maou _______________________ 14.0__12.6__9.2__10.1__10.9 Koizora _____________________ 5.6 ]

it looks like the Shibatora is standing its ground
so far okay thats good
it not all that but it alright along with monster parent hang in there

code blue is still there althought it had its up and then down and ups again it seem like they are getting some where
well i would like to that

maou wow what a drop
all they way down to the singles ouch

such a low start for the koizora wow this looks like it would not be going anyway fast
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tofuuuuu wrote:

btw, I'm not that impressed by Eita.

Watch the following shows, in the following order, to see his diversity and skill:

- Water Boys
- Orange Days
- Nodame Cantabile
- Loss Time Life, Story 1
- Last Friends

Kanto Region Summer 2008 Japanese Drama Ratings

Ando Natsu ___________________ 11.6__10.5__7.6__9.1__9.0
Taiyou to Umi no Kyoshitsu_______20.5__14.4__12.7
Shibatora ____________________ 13.0__12.2__13.4__14.0__11.7
Monster Parent _______________ 14.2__11.6__13.0__13.2__12.2__11.2
Gakkou ja Oshierarenai ________ 9.9__6.1__6.9__5.4
Gonzo: Densetsu no Keiji ______ 12.5__10.4__12.0__10.8__10.3__10.9
Seigi no Mikata ______________ 13.2__10.1__8.7__9.4__11.6
Yotsu no Uso ________________ 11.8__10.6__8.3__8.1__9.2
Code Blue ___________________ 21.2__16.0__16.0__13.2__15.7__15.6
Lotto 6 ______________________ 12.4__6.8__6.0__4.7__8.0
Maou _______________________ 14.0__12.6__9.2__10.1__10.9
Dageki Tenshi Ruri ____________ 10.0__7.4
Koizora _____________________ 5.6
Yasuko to Kenji _______________ 12.3__13.1__11.2__12.9
33-pun Tantei _________________ 12.2
Tomorrow ____________________ 16.8__13.9__13.5__10.8__10.3
Atsuhime _____________________ (continued..)_
26.0__26.2__24.3__25.8__24.6

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Tenshigure wrote:

Watch the following shows, in the following order, to see his diversity and skill: - Water Boys - Orange Days - Nodame Cantabile - Loss Time Life, Story 1 - Last Friends

I have. Except for LF and Lost Time. There's also another movie of his I've seen... the one with Sakuranbo girl and Kimi wa Petto. He didn't impress me much. His acting felt mild and safe. Maybe its the type of characters he was given.

suzzy wrote:

maou wow what a drop all they way down to the singles ouch

Ghibli & Fridays. Its the Olympics today thus it will drop again. Bad luck for such a good effort.

bmwracer wrote:

Numbers only indicate his popularity, nothing more.

Oh really. Its still extraordinary to top every ratings, rankings with a large difference from the competition. Those people who voted for him must be blind.

tofuuuuu wrote:

Oh really. Its still extraordinary to top every ratings, rankings with a large difference from the competition. Those people who voted for him must be blind.

Of course. Aren't all fangirls blind/oblivious?

bmwracer wrote:

Of course. Aren't all fangirls blind/oblivious?

so that means all girls who have favorites are blind? i rather call them fanbrats

bmwracer wrote:

I am... He's a very underrated actor.

I agree. He was also good in Tokyo Friends and Unfair, and is currently in Atsu-hime.

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tofuuuu wrote:

There's also another movie of his I've seen... the one with Sakuranbo girl

That was Tokyo Friends, with Otsuka Ai-chan There's five episodes and a movie.

tofuuuuu wrote:

so that means all girls who have favorites are blind?

Only the ones who think their faves can do no wrong and vote blindly in favor of their dramas even though they suck like a vacuum cleaner...

And that applies to fanboys as well.

Well, I'm not a fan of Eita's acting either. I've always thought of him as the visual-based actor

I've seen all of those series listed except "Loss Time Life", and frankly, he was pretty much same. Also seen him in Dororo, where he was even less convincing in armor. He does have his moments, but then again, so does everyone, including KimuTaku
He was VERY good in the movie "Ahiru to Kamo no Coin Locker" though, different role too.


I guess it can be disputed that KimuTaku has a bad acting skill, but he does have naturally born actor talents other than looks, one being charisma/power to inspire, the other the convincing tear scenes. I wouldn't think he would ever play a loser role given his status in the J-entertainment industry, but he did play a blind man in somewhat less glamorous position in "Bushi no Ichibun".

Personally, I'd give KimuTaku 6/10 in acting, but Eita 4/10. BTW, I'm not a girl and not into men