nicknguyen wrote:

could someone translate this for me? �������` domo arigato gozaimasu.

It means 'I love you~~~~'

thank you shoy.


ja ne

Hey guys, I need a little help. How is mitai and youni used in context? We were interviewing some Japanese okaa-sans the other day and I couldn't figure these two sentence patterns out.

KouSeiya315 wrote:

Not sure if anyone has asked either of these yet, but I'll give it a shot. 1) I'm looking for examples on using "hazu". I'd like to know if there are different ways to use it, how to use it, and what each way (if there are several) means. 2) With expressing likenesses and/or similarity, I'm looking for examples on the uses of "no you ni" and "mitai". I'd like to know the differences with using the two. Sorry if this is confusing to explain, my Japanese is REALLY rusty and wasn't great to begin with

I'm bumping this because I asked 3 pages ago and didn't get answered, then 86 asked one of them too

please translate for me.

eien ni ai suru.

and

anata no ai o kokuhaku shite kudasai.

domo arigatou gozaimasu.

nicknguyen wrote:

eien ni ai suru.

I'll love you forever... (something like that).

nicknguyen wrote:

anata no ai o kokuhaku shite kudasai.

Please confess your love.
LOL... my japanese is rusty.. this is the best i could do.

KouSeiya315 wrote:

I'm bumping this because I asked 3 pages ago and didn't get answered, then 86 asked one of them too

I am not sure how much I can help or be clear, but I'll try.


~mitai [na] = "looks like"
"Are wa ringo mitai na mono datta deshou."
(It looked like an apple, didn't it?)

"Kinou mitai ni, ganbarimashou!"
(Let's work hard, like yesterday!)

~no you [ni/na] = "to feel like, to be as if/though, to resemble," "to seem like"

"Kimi no you ni narenai."
(I can't become like you.)

"Kimi ga iru you na ki ga shita."
(I felt as if you were there.)

"Genki ga modotte kita you desu ne."
(It seems like your pep has come back, hasn't it?)

There are times when "mitai" and "you ni/na" can overlap, but "you ni/na" seems to carry a connotation of emotionally rather than a fact, which is when "mitai" is used. By emotionally, I mean that something seems to be a certain way, rather than it actually 100% is...if that makes any sense?

A more uneasily explained use of "you ni" is to refer to an effort to become a certain way. This "you ni" follows a verb in the potential form. So "suru" becomes "dekiru."

Examples:
"Football wo dekiru you ni nattara?"
(Why don't you try being able to play football?)
or
(Why don't you try learning how to play football?)

"Itsuka, watashi ga waraeru you ni naritai."
(Someday, I'd like to be able to smile."

yume wrote:

I am not sure how much I can help or be clear, but I'll try. ~mitai [na] = "looks like" "Are wa ringo mitai na mono datta deshou." (It looked like an apple, didn't it?) "Kinou mitai ni, ganbarimashou!" (Let's work hard, like yesterday!) ~no you [ni/na] = "to feel like, to be as if/though, to resemble," "to seem like" "Kimi no you ni narenai." (I can't become like you.) "Kimi ga iru you na ki ga shita." (I felt as if you were there.) "Genki ga modotte kita you desu ne." (It seems like your pep has come back, hasn't it?) There are times when "mitai" and "you ni/na" can overlap, but "you ni/na" seems to carry a connotation of emotionally rather than a fact, which is when "mitai" is used. By emotionally, I mean that something seems to be a certain way, rather than it actually 100% is...if that makes any sense? A more uneasily explained use of "you ni" is to refer to an effort to become a certain way. This "you ni" follows a verb in the potential form. So "suru" becomes "dekiru." Examples: "Football wo dekiru you ni nattara?" (Why don't you try being able to play football?) or (Why don't you try learning how to play football?) "Itsuka, watashi ga waraeru you ni naritai." (Someday, I'd like to be able to smile."

Very thorough explanation!! Not even my question but I have to thank you anyways... Arigatou Gozaimashta!

yume wrote:

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Thanks yume-san! That really helped out. I already managed to catch that "kimi ga iru you na ki ga shita" phrase in a song I was listening to (albeit in a different tense).

Hi, this is my first post
I just became a J drama addict a few months ago... and studying japanese as much as i can nowdays.

Can anyone tell me what's the meaning of betsu ni?
I hear it in so many different contexts and still can't figure out how to use it or when?

thanks

OBakasan wrote:

Hi, this is my first post I just became a J drama addict a few months ago... and studying japanese as much as i can nowdays. Can anyone tell me what's the meaning of betsu ni? I hear it in so many different contexts and still can't figure out how to use it or when? thanks

Betsu ni, grammatically speaking, means another (something).

So, if you say (sorry for the ROMAJI input, my bf's computer doesn't have Japanese input) something like:

Kareshi wa betsu ni imasu.

It means something along the lines of, "I have another boyfriend (somewhere else)."

However, the more popular usage of it has the meaning of, "not really" or "don't really," depending on if it is by itself or followed by a verb.

Eg:

A: Okonomiyaki suki? (Do you like okonomiyaki?)
B: Betsu ni. (Not really.)

or

A: Jaa, yuuenchi wa? (Okay, so how about going to an amusement park?)
B: Betsu ni ikitakunai. (I don't really want to go (there).)

There's also another usage in where BETSU NI is followed by II YO.

Eg:

A: Ne, kore tabete ii? (Hey, can I eat this?)
B: Betsu ni ii yo. (Sure, go ahead.)

or

A: Ano hito no kamigata hen dayo ne? (That persons hairstyle's a little strange, eh?)
B: Betsu ni ii n janai? (I don't really see a problem with it.)

Hope that helps rather than confuses you

kokuo
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Thanks! makes a lot of sense now

I just heard...

"ii jankayou betsu ni"

so a translation of this may be something like:

"I don't think anything is wrong"

or something like that?

OBakasan wrote:

Thanks! makes a lot of sense now I just heard... "ii jankayou betsu ni" so a translation of this may be something like: "I don't think anything is wrong" or something like that?

Yup!
Or something like, "It's fine!" or "Why not?" (as in the sense of not really requiring an answer, just stating the point that you find no problem with what's happening.).



Kokuo
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I have a question about "wakaru"

isn't the negative form "wakaranai"? but when I watch shows, they always say "wakanai"

is that the same word?

murasaki wrote:

is that the same word?

In essence, yes it is. Just a shortened version of "wakaranai". Same meaning however.
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kokuou wrote:

Yup! Or something like, "It's fine!" or "Why not?" (as in the sense of not really requiring an answer, just stating the point that you find no problem with what's happening.). Kokuo

Long time, Kokuou! ���C�H!�@
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kokuou wrote:

It means something along the lines of, "I have another boyfriend (somewhere else)." However, the more popular usage of it has the meaning of, "not really" or "don't really," depending on if it is by itself or followed by a verb. Eg: A: Okonomiyaki suki? (Do you like okonomiyaki?) B: Betsu ni. (Not really.)

Hahaha, good explanation--and now Japanese Grammar teachers world 'round cringe as it begins, yay yay. There are a lot of sticklers who try to remind young people today, "Betsu ni" is not a full sentence, haha. I guess it's like the American English "Whatever" that has spread so much? There's no real meaning without a full sentence, but it's just been shortened as kokuou said, hahaha.

I am ashamed to admit I say betsu ni about every other word, hahaha.

I am back again with some questions...

souyu or souiu

don't know exactly how to write it, but many times I heard this word in conversations, I can't exactly find the right meaning of this...

For example:

souyu ureshii nayou kaasan

this would mean:
So your mother will be happy

Is this a good translation of that?
Are there other meanings of souyu?
like " for this reason" , "so" , "therefore"

So it's like dakara? but in an informal way?

Thanks

The best way that I could translate your "Souyu"/"Souiu" question is with an English equivalent of "Like That"/"That Much".

As for your example, "Your mother will be happy (like that/that much?)

Other users, if you can elaborate better than I can, please feel free to do so. I am having a difficult time explaining.
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i was watching naruto, and i just noticed...does he talk like how a female would talk? like his sentences end with "wa yo". i was taught that females talk like that and guys end with "da yo"