Back to the show....

Musashi learns of Koetsu's other skill.

bmwracer wrote:

You can't use those aforementioned movies as a reference for this drama or vice versa... You're gonna have your strong women and your frail ones... Otsu is a frail one, sort of: She had more than enough determination and willpower to chase down Musashi, ne? That must count for something... Funny that you should point out Yae/Koto: those two were even more frail than Otsu, IMO. They were stuck to Kojiro's side like gum on someone's shoe...

IMO, elegance doesn't count for much. Devotion and trustworthiness is tops in mine. I hold myself to those values, and while Otsu's character may have been over the top in that area, it was easy for me to connect with her. That being said, Otsu and Akemi were my favorites.
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kitakaze wrote:

IMO, elegance doesn't count for much. Devotion and trustworthiness is tops in mine. I hold myself to those values, and while Otsu's character may have been over the top in that area, it was easy for me to connect with her. That being said, Otsu and Akemi were my favorites.

Don't forget loyalty. That's why Oshino is my #1, I love it when she tells Kojiro "Then I'm your shadow." and when he's asked later on "Who's this woman?" and he says "She's my shadow."

Toranaga wrote:

Don't forget loyalty. That's why Oshino is my #1, I love it when she tells Kojiro "Then I'm your shadow." and when he's asked later on "Who's this woman?" and he says "She's my shadow."

More like "She's gum on my shoe."

Seriously, she seems to be overly subservient to Kojiro as were the other two, Yae/Koto...

Is that why you like 'em?

bmwracer wrote:

More like "She's gum on my shoe." Seriously, she seems to be overly subservient to Kojiro as were the other two, Yae/Koto... Is that why you like 'em?

Unlike Otsu who bows even to Osugi

You'd be surprised though, my #2 is Akemi

bmwracer wrote:

More like "She's gum on my shoe." Seriously, she seems to be overly subservient to Kojiro as were the other two, Yae/Koto... Is that why you like 'em?

Or more blatantly: "She's velcroed to my underside."

Akemi was a defiant little fighter .
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Toranaga wrote:

Unlike Otsu who bows even to Osugi

That's being respectful to your elders... No matter what jerks they are.

Musashi's regret.

Jotaro reunites with Musashi.

Man, Musashi was his own best contraceptive....

At least he didn't get Jotaro killed on his path of bloodshed.
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kitakaze wrote:

Man, Musashi was his own best contraceptive....

Standing under those icy waterfalls must've helped immensely. Brrr.

bmwracer wrote:

Ouch. You're not the first to say that. Is it because she's a goody-goody? Naive? Single-minded in her dedication to Musashi? All of the above?

Oh, she's pretty, but...yeah I guess it's all of the above, hehe. She kept being pushed around by people. I suppose it isn't her fault.

Anyway, I just got to the really sad part where Kojiro...

effronterie wrote:

Oh, she's pretty, but...yeah I guess it's all of the above, hehe. She kept being pushed around by people. I suppose it isn't her fault.

Prettiness aside, she was sorta frail and stuff. But as I mentioned to Toranaga, she had the strength to go after her man, regardless of the obstacles...

Guh, where can we find women like that in this day and age?

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Anyway, I just got to the really sad part where Kojiro...

Joins a band named Tokio???

Akemi surprises Matahachi.

bmwracer wrote:

Standing under those icy waterfalls must've helped immensely. Brrr.

Yeah. But in America...everyone would have to question a man that travels around with a boy that's not his son and hides in a shack from a woman. It's called the priest-n-Michael Jackson effect.
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bmwracer wrote:

Akemi surprises Matahachi.

Dumbass. He should have just stayed straight for Akemi.
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bmwracer wrote:

Guh, where can we find women like that in this day and age?

I agree. Gotta hand it to these women...I can't imagine where they get the discipline/patience to sit around all day admiring plants and dewdrops while waiting for their men to come home; or the utter devotion to go tromping halfway across the country and risking their lives just to follow them around.

It's kinda dumb and yet...admirable.

I especially liked the parallel bits between the relationships of musashi/otsu and kojior/oshino, and they way musashi and kojiro respected each other so much.

Still can't get over that part though

kitakaze wrote:

Dumbass. He should have just stayed straight for Akemi.

Matahachi's a doofus. Plain and simple.

bmwracer wrote:

Matahachi's a doofus. Plain and simple.

I think he's the king of doofus. Someone should have whacked some sense into him in episode 1 already... and in episode 2, and 3, and 4, and... etc... *eyeshift*

I think Akemi would be the right one for that job.