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lovelessemotion



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

wait so there are 2 'dead or alive' movies?!? what in the? Crazy Nut
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

lovelessemotion wrote:
wait so there are 2 'dead or alive' movies?!? what in the? Crazy Nut
Hehe. Actually there are 3 Miike Dead or Alive-movies:
- Dead or Alive: Hanzaisha http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0221111/
- Dead or Alive: Birds http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0285005/
- Dead or Alive: Final http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0301167/

Lupin III - Dead or Alive is another movie. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0170180/
Hope this has cleared up the puzzle.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

OH ok thanks for clearing that up pemu....

arnel98 wrote:
since we're off tpoic talking bout idols, have u guys seen yukie nakama's photodvd... It by digi-kishin - got mine off edonkey. Mr Green
is that where this came from?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

no, the wall is from yukie's fan site. havent watched yukie's dvd yet.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

Actually, Hollywood has been doing that for a while: Fistfull of Dollars is a western remake of Kurosawa's Yojimbo and The Magnificent Seven was a remake of Seven Samurai, so it's not a recent phenomenon...

That's why Kill Bill doesn't really blow me away like it does other people, 'cause I've seen similar (and better) in The One Armed Swordsman, The Yagyu Conspiracy, and Shadow Warriors I-IV, to name a few...

To be fair, though, I'm sure the Asian filmmakers have copied a lot of Hollywood stuff as well, but we don't notice it as much.


Actually, everybody steals from everybody else.

Yes, "Yojimbo" was later remade (In Italy and Spain) into "Fist full of Dollars" And then it was made again in 1996 as the Bruce Willis movie, "Last Man Standing." But did you know that Kurosawa got the original idea for "Yojimbo" from a 1930s pulp story by Dashell Hammet (the guy who wrote the Thin Man books). It was one of the "Confidential Op" stories (In its setting, "Last Man Standing" was much more like the original story than either of the first movies.).

There have been some fantastic film makers coming out of Japan.

Everyone knows Kurosawa. Mostly for his Samuri movies. But he also did some brilliant 20th century stuff, especially right after WWII.

For stylish hard boiled detective fiction, take a look at Seijun Suzuki's work from the 50's and 60s. He was amazing. (Just as he was getting to be a big deal, the studio he was under contract to went porno, and he went to TV) And he's still working! He put out a strange and stylish movie called "Pistol Opera" about two years ago, which is a remake of one of his earlier films.

Masauki Suo has done some terrific work recently, including films like "Shall we Dancu".

And Shohei Imamura is an amazing film maker / story teller. Films like "Unagi" and "Dr. Akagi" come to mind.

Horror Movies, and Samuri movies, get most of the notice when people talk about Japanese movies. But film buffs know that Japan's film industry really has turned out some world class talent, and some world class work.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Geezer wrote:


Actually, everybody steals from everybody else.

Yes, "Yojimbo" was later remade (In Italy and Spain) into "Fist full of Dollars" And then it was made again in 1996 as the Bruce Willis movie, "Last Man Standing." But did you know that Kurosawa got the original idea for "Yojimbo" from a 1930s pulp story by Dashell Hammet (the guy who wrote the Thin Man books). It was one of the "Confidential Op" stories (In its setting, "Last Man Standing" was much more like the original story than either of the first movies.).

There have been some fantastic film makers coming out of Japan.

Everyone knows Kurosawa. Mostly for his Samuri movies. But he also did some brilliant 20th century stuff, especially right after WWII.

For stylish hard boiled detective fiction, take a look at Seijun Suzuki's work from the 50's and 60s. He was amazing. (Just as he was getting to be a big deal, the studio he was under contract to went porno, and he went to TV) And he's still working! He put out a strange and stylish movie called "Pistol Opera" about two years ago, which is a remake of one of his earlier films.

Masauki Suo has done some terrific work recently, including films like "Shall we Dancu".

And Shohei Imamura is an amazing film maker / story teller. Films like "Unagi" and "Dr. Akagi" come to mind.

Horror Movies, and Samuri movies, get most of the notice when people talk about Japanese movies. But film buffs know that Japan's film industry really has turned out some world class talent, and some world class work.

You're absolutely right. There are directors besides Kurosawa, who's name and legacy has transcended film itself. Beside the director's that you mentioned, I've got DVDs and LDs of films from Inagaki Hiroshi (Miyamoto Musashi, Duel at Ichijoji Temple (Ichijoji no Ketto), Duel on Ganryu Island (Ketto Ganryu-jima)), Ozu Yasujiro (Tokyo Story (Tokyo Monogatari)), and Mizoguchi Kenji (The 47 Ronin (Genroku Chushingura))....

Lotsa great stuff out there if you know where to look. Big Grin
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

watched:-

-love letter(didnt understand)
-dark water
-all ring episode
-brotherS(yes i like this storyline about yakuza,acted by beat takeshi aka takeshi castle master)
-shuto kousoku trial

still finding:-
-april love story-
-tokyo monotogari
-juon 2 with bm/bi substitle
-kairo
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

numlock84 wrote:
-tokyo monotogari

An excellent movie, if we're talkin' about the same one... ?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer:

have u watched it?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

numlock84 wrote:
bmwracer:

have u watched it?

Well, the Tokyo Monogatari that I'm talking about was directed by Ozu Yasujiro in 1953 (?) and is in black and white... I've got the two-disc DVD from Criterion... Are we talking about the same movie?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer:

nope,tokyo monotogari that acted by takako matsu
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

numlock84 wrote:
bmwracer:

nope,tokyo monotogari that acted by takako matsu

Oh. I had a feeling we were talking about two different movies. Gomen.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

laugh as hard as i can
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Tokyo Monogatari by Ozu Yasujiro is VERY famous. Not alot of western viewers can take the pace though... very slow.............ultra slow...........extremely slow..... Excellent movie! Anyone who is interested in the film making side of film should know Ozu Yasujiro. He is famous for breaking the 180degree line in his scenes. And his maticulous attention to mize-en-scene! You should check it out.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

malorum wrote:
Tokyo Monogatari by Ozu Yasujiro is VERY famous. Not alot of western viewers can take the pace though... very slow.............ultra slow...........extremely slow..... Excellent movie! Anyone who is interested in the film making side of film should know Ozu Yasujiro. He is famous for breaking the 180degree line in his scenes. And his maticulous attention to mize-en-scene! You should check it out.

You're right on the mark, malorum. The pacing is slow and the story is rather uneventful, but I was totally into the movie... I think you have to really appreciate movies to enjoy what this film offers: the camera shots, the pauses between scenes, etc. Like I said, an excellent movie. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hmm...sounds like an interesting, may as well look for it.

There's already been a thread about Japanese movies before. Post replies to the thread from now on. http://jdorama.com/viewtopic_1753.htm

topic merged.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

arnel98: Dang I like your avatar and sig, what program did you use to do all that?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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arnel98: Dang I like your avatar and sig, what program did you use to do all that?

thanks. I'm trying to learn photoimpact/gif animator that's why i keep changing my ava and sig. Too poor to buy adobe photoshop... Sweat
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

arnel98 wrote:

thanks. I'm trying to learn photoimpact/gif animator that's why i keep changing my ava and sig. Too poor to buy adobe photoshop... Sweat

Photoshop is overrated. It's got way more features than what most people need... And it's way overpriced... I only use it 'cause I got a copy from someone... hehe
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

did anyone mention Battle Royale? cuz that was a twisted but awsome japanese flick!
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