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bmwracer
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 125547 Location: Juri-chan's speed dial Country: |
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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etoile wrote: | I didn't see Musashi used his famous style of swordfight with two swords. I had been wanting to see that |
He used that technique when he defeated the entire Yoshioka school at Ichijoji and when he fought the chain and sickle technique of Shisedo Baiken...
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Betsy Hayashi
Joined: 09 Apr 2004 Posts: 3437 Location: Sao Paulo Country: |
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:13 am Post subject: |
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etoile wrote: | I didn't see Musashi used his famous style of swordfight with two swords. I had been wanting to see that |
I think that's because Musashi didn't use the two sword technique in the most of his battles. He used more those wooden swords ... _________________
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etoile
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bmwracer
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 125547 Location: Juri-chan's speed dial Country: |
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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etoile wrote: | In the book by Eiji Yoshikawa, it is mentioned that Musashi had some sort of a teacher, who's also a priest named Gudo. I wonder why Gudo was not in the drama? |
Gudo??
The only priest I recall is Takuan...
Quote: | I don't remember in which episode, but there's time when Katsu (Mizuno Miki) bit Musashi. I don't get what it means |
I think that was her "revenge" for killing her husband, Shisedo Baiken...
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Betsy Hayashi
Joined: 09 Apr 2004 Posts: 3437 Location: Sao Paulo Country: |
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:29 am Post subject: |
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bmwracer wrote: |
I think that was her "revenge" for killing her husband, Shisedo Baiken... |
An wild revenge ... _________________
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bmwracer
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 125547 Location: Juri-chan's speed dial Country: |
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:32 am Post subject: |
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Betsy Hayashi wrote: | An wild revenge ... |
I thought that story with her and Baiken was one of the more interesting sub-stories in Musashi...
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Betsy Hayashi
Joined: 09 Apr 2004 Posts: 3437 Location: Sao Paulo Country: |
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:39 am Post subject: |
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bmwracer wrote: |
I thought that story with her and Baiken was one of the more interesting sub-stories in Musashi... |
Me too. And that fight scene with Baiken was one of the best of the whole drama !!!! _________________
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bmwracer
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 125547 Location: Juri-chan's speed dial Country: |
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:41 am Post subject: |
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Betsy Hayashi wrote: | Me too. And that fight scene with Baiken was one of the best of the whole drama !!!! |
And Musashi did use two swords in that duel.
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Betsy Hayashi
Joined: 09 Apr 2004 Posts: 3437 Location: Sao Paulo Country: |
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:43 am Post subject: |
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bmwracer wrote: |
And Musashi did use two swords in that duel. |
Yeah, one of the few scenes in witch he didn�Lt use a wooden sword ... _________________
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bmwracer
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 125547 Location: Juri-chan's speed dial Country: |
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:46 am Post subject: |
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Betsy Hayashi wrote: | Yeah, one of the few scenes in witch he didn�Lt use a wooden sword ... |
Didn't he invent/develop the two-sword style? I'm surprised he abandoned it for the wooden sword...
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Betsy Hayashi
Joined: 09 Apr 2004 Posts: 3437 Location: Sao Paulo Country: |
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:49 am Post subject: |
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bmwracer wrote: |
Didn't he invent/develop the two-sword style? I'm surprised he abandoned it for the wooden sword... |
Yeah, strange indeed ... _________________
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bmwracer
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 125547 Location: Juri-chan's speed dial Country: |
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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Betsy Hayashi wrote: | Yeah, strange indeed ... |
Not quite sure if the Yoshikawa book mentioned why he chose the wooden sword for all of his post-Kojiro battles...
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etoile
Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 79 Location: Bandung Country: |
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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bmwracer wrote: |
Didn't he invent/develop the two-sword style? I'm surprised he abandoned it for the wooden sword... |
I have read Eiji's novel three times or more? Hmm can't remember. But it certainly says that Musashi developed this two sword style in the battle in Ichijoji. Although at that time he didn't realize that he had actually invented that style. As for wooden sword, in the book it says the first wooden sword he had was when he and Matahachi stayed with Okoh. Okoh stored lots of stuff she'd looted among the corpses but of course it wasn't her who did the looting but Akemi. Okoh gave Musashi the sword as she was actually trying to hit on him. But he refused her so she turned to Matahachi. Am I right?
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etoile
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bmwracer
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etoile
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bmwracer
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:43 am Post subject: |
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etoile wrote: | According to the book by Eiji, the reason for Musashi to fight Kojiro with a wooden sword was because he wanted to avoid bloodshed. Having reached a certain level of wisdom, I guess, in the art of swordfight, a samurai like Musashi felt that it was important to defeat his opponent without smearing his sword with blood. I guess.. |
Wasn't it more strategy than philosophy: to counteract Kojiro's long and deadly "clothes rod" sword, Musashi chose to use a shaved-down oar to battle Kojiro....
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BmwM3Rod
Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Posts: 154 Location: USA Country: |
Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:04 am Post subject: |
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bmwracer wrote: |
Wasn't it more strategy than philosophy: to counteract Kojiro's long and deadly "clothes rod" sword, Musashi chose to use a shaved-down oar to battle Kojiro.... |
This is what I thought too. I have heard too that he used the wooden sword because using a real one wasn't challenging enough for him and he didn't necessarily want to kill his opponent...just defeat him.
In theory...to combat Kojiro's long sword...Musashi could have just gotten one himself but instead he used the oar.
I remember in the Musashi series from the 80's, after Musashi defeated Kojiro I believe he checked to see if he was still alive and hoped that he survive.
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bmwracer
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 125547 Location: Juri-chan's speed dial Country: |
Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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BmwM3Rod wrote: | I remember in the Musashi series from the 80's, after Musashi defeated Kojiro I believe he checked to see if he was still alive and hoped that he survive. |
You mean the one starring Yakusho Koji?
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