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littlemissfab



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Akakage wrote:


Just a suggestion, maybe next time you should consider this kind of award thing be done per season. Yes, that might be a hassle however it would give a fair chance to all dramas to get nominated, judged and voted. The actual award for dramas in Japan is done per-season (correct me if I'm wrong here). It was kind of unfair for other dramas and actors. maybe next time put the season in too, for winter season put the drama you voted and so on perhaps it might avoid the fanbased judgment.


AGREE!! will start with the Winter Season... but you're right.. that's how they do it in Japan.. At least it levels the playing field given that there are almost around 25 doramas per season.. thanks for the suggestion Aka! Thumbsup
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

littlemissfab wrote:


AGREE!! will start with the Winter Season... but you're right.. that's how they do it in Japan.. At least it levels the playing field given that there are almost around 25 doramas per season.. thanks for the suggestion Aka! Thumbsup


Don't forget the suggestion from ilovedrama, you really have to put criteria to judge a drama and actor too.

To be honest, this kind of voting is not easy to make and not all people watch all dramas too so the vote would end up unfair at the end. For example some ppl only watch drama because they have JE boys in it thus the result would be dominated by JE boys. Beaten

Maybe you should form a team of Jury who really watch dramas for objective reason and make a fix 5 nominees for the members to cast their vote.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ilovedrama wrote:


Glad to know there are few other people like this out there.

Points to consider too when voting are:

2. Also consider the roles the actor/actress played. Was it challenging? Did it call out all possible range of emotions so that you can see the quality of the acting i.e. a guy who managed to cry a river is definately in a more demanding role then say a guy who keep humingyay whatever.

I totally agree. We should consider if the roles were challenging at all. To me, acting out as a disabled girl is much harder than acting as a happy girl. hehe
But voting is still voting, and it's unavoidable that sm ppl will be biased. well I never knew what JE was until I finished NwP and was stunned by YamaPi's performance. So I guess it's still right to vote for him cuz he left a big impression in me after the drama ended Bow
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Bummer I cant vote as I have only just joined....however all my favorites are nominated so thats cool!!!

Happy Voting people!!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Akakage wrote:
Just a suggestion, maybe next time you should consider this kind of award thing be done per season. Yes, that might be a hassle however it would give a fair chance to all dramas to get nominated, judged and voted. The actual award for dramas in Japan is done per-season (correct me if I'm wrong here). It was kind of unfair for other dramas and actors. maybe next time put the season in too, for winter season put the drama you voted and so on perhaps it might avoid the fanbased judgment.

Ugh, per season???

It's bad enough to deal with this crap at the end of the year... Sweat
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

Ugh, per season???

It's bad enough to deal with this crap at the end of the year... Sweat


I'm just giving a suggestion not mandatorily has to be conducted.

So, if it's that crappy are we going to continue this ritual every year then? Sweat
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

oooh so you think this is crappy? might as well not do this then Sweat that'll save us some time and frustrations.

i think its probably easier to just post the jdrama awards officially from a site than coming from us Beaten that way, we dont need to throw slippers at each other Beaten
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

yeah~
i'm having a hard time choosing btwn YamaP and Ryo...who should get Best Supporting Actor and Best Performance.

could someone define those two catagories in more detail...

EX: supporting actor must have a varying range of acting skills//best performance: uniquely depicted in the dorama...???

or are those two catagories basically the same?
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littlemissfab



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Everything's up in the air. Aka's and ilovedrama's suggestions promotes fairness and structure. Bmwracer's stem from the quality of the entries. MixxDreamer's views are from both the two.

Given the factors, let us just let this one pass and see if anyone is going to be up to doing this again next year (or season)

We (sawadasmile and I) have exerted efforts here (tallying votes manually and screencapping, watching series over again) and will continue to do so. And since this is the first time, a lot of unforseen things have come to our attention and we'll try our best to fix them to make it better the next time around (if there is a next time -- see previous paragraph)

This project was started in the spirit of fun and I do apologize if the results aren't what the people expected.

For the meantime, just keep those votes coming in and we'll be tallying them.

as of December 29, 2005 --> 35 pms received
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littlemissfab



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

lilbabi1004 wrote:
yeah~
i'm having a hard time choosing btwn YamaP and Ryo...who should get Best Supporting Actor and Best Performance.

could someone define those two catagories in more detail...

EX: supporting actor must have a varying range of acting skills//best performance: uniquely depicted in the dorama...???

or are those two catagories basically the same?


Originally, the concept behind the best JE performance was to separate the best actor - best supporting actor nominees from the best JE performance to give the other actors a chance in the other two categories because I did forsee a slew of JE people hogging both categories. I created the best JE performance to avoid that, but to no avail. I guess I should have explained it better back then. My bad.

Given that, we're looking for the best actor among the JE actors who perfomed this year for the Best JE performance.

I hope I answered your question.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Closing date 7 January. That'll be good cos that gives me some time to watch ichi and work my number of posts up to above 30. w00t!

littlemisfab and sawadasmile, we do appreciate your efforts alot despite the problems! Applaud Applaud I personally feel more excited about these awards than the official awards, and would be real glad if there would be another one next year! Dancing
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

thanks for your pm em w00t! my reply still in the outbox tho'

really appreciate what you guys had done Applaud
keep the votes coming minna!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Akakage wrote:
So, if it's that crappy are we going to continue this ritual every year then? Sweat

It was never my idea to have this awards thing in the first place...

IMHO, this is just another outlet for fangirls/fanboys to flood the forum with posts....
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

It was never my idea to have this awards thing in the first place...

IMHO, this is just another outlet for fangirls/fanboys to flood the forum with posts....


^^ I take responsibility for this. It wasn't BM's idea AT ALL. About continuing it as a ritual (as originally planned). Still up in the air.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Due to some people having problems loading the finalists page, here's the text version of it.

Best Dorama:
H2
Ichi Ritoru No Namida
Hana Yori Dango
Nobuta Wo Produce
Densha Otoko

Best Actor:
Itoh Atsushi as Yamada - Densha Otoko
Kimura Takuya as Jiro - Engine
Matsumoto Jun as Tsukasa - Hana Yori Dango
Nagase Tomoya as Toraji - Tiger and Dragon
Takizawa Hideaki as Yoshitsune - Yoshitsune

Best Supporting Actor:
Tanaka Koutaro as Hideo - H2
Oguri Shun as Rui - Hana Yori Dango
Nishikido Ryo as Haruto - Ichi Ritoru no Namida
Yamashita Tomohisa as Akira - Nobuta wo Produce
Okada Junichi as Ryu - Tiger and Dragon

Best Actress
Shinohara Ryoko as Naoko - Anego
Kanno Miho as Matsuda - Ai No Uta
Nakama Yukie as Yankumi - Gokusen 2
Inoue Mao as Tsukushi - Hana Yori Dango
Erika Sawajiri as Aya - Ichi Ritoru no Namida

Best Supporting Actress
Shiraishi Miho as Jinkama-san - Densha Otoko
Satou Megumi as Sakurako - Hana Yori Dango
Narumi Riko as Ako - Ichi Ritoru no Namida
Yakarimaku Hiroko as Shioka - Ichi Ritoru no Namida
Hirosue Ryoko as Mino - Slow Dance

Best Couple
Yamada and Aoyama - Densha Otoko
Hiro and Haruka - H2
Doumyoji and Makino - HYD
Haruto and Aya - Ichi Ritoru no Namida
Shuji to Akira - Nobuta wo Produce

Catchphrase of the year
Kitaa - Densha Otoko
Konkon - NwP
Hummingyay - HYD
Akira Shock - NwP
Nobuta power chuunyu - NwP

.. I'll leave it here for the meantime. I have to go to the airport.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I don't like how they're calling this award "crappy" when you guys put a lot of effort into it.

it's their first time doing this.

littlemissfab and sawadasmile, you guys started this thing because you wanted to do something fun and intestesting..if you plan to do it next year..do it your own way..take the suggestions that you like.

also, it's hard to watch all the dramas that comes out..because of time, no subtitles, and not having the raws itself..so it won't be that fair anyways.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

IkematsuSosuke wrote:
I don't like how they're calling this award "crappy" when you guys put a lot of effort into it.

it's their first time doing this.

littlemissfab and sawadasmile, you guys started this thing because you wanted to do something fun and intestesting..if you plan to do it next year..do it your own way..take the suggestions that you like.

You're right. It was a poor choice of words on my part, and it was a good idea.

Gomen.

As with anything though, good ideas can get out of control without guidelines, supervision, etc....


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also, it's hard to watch all the dramas that comes out..because of time, no subtitles, and not having the raws itself..so it won't be that fair anyways.

True. I'd suspect the votes to be biased in one way or another due to the large number of dramas that were released.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

PPL!! this is just for fun!! but thru what sm ppl hav been saying on this page, it really discourages a lot of ppl from voting.
Of course the awards can't be perfectly fair. Nothing is fair in this world. Who is to judge which actor has the best performance? I personally dont like the idea of 5 "professional" judges coming 2gt and giving out awards for whomever they choose. That's why voting this way is more interesting. whoever has the most votes, wins. It simply means that more ppl think that actor is better. "Majority rules" u know Bow
Besides, if u really believe that a drama, or an actor, did a great job, then u should vote for it/him. Who cares if he will obviously win or lose? It's not just a matter of losing or winning. It is the matter of ur opinion and ur support for that drama/actor. So in the last page sm1 said s/he wouldnt vote simply becuz that candidate has no chance anyway. Please dont think like that. Ur vote COUNTS!
Again let's make this event fun and meaningful to everyone. So please stop criticizing it (if u keep on criticizing it no one will dare have new ideas next time.) I think lilmissfab and sawadasmile are doing a good job, and we should thank them for having such a great idea. Suggestions are fine but it should be up to them whether they want to adapt it or not. (I personally dislike the idea of having an award every season Sweat)
ok EVERY1! VOTE! Naughty
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I like this idea. Looking forward to the results w00t!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Just wanna tell u guys that i like this award thingy and really looking forward to the resuls, im having a great time deciding which is the best of 2005 =D, thou i agree that the votes are kinda biased =x too many JE guys and most of the nominees are from the same drama........but then those are really the best in this year imo, this year started off with bunch of 'not so good' dramas and end up with alot of great ones, so far i like all the fall dramas i've watched......

Just hope that all the voters out there please watch all or maybe most of the dramas first before voting.........not many anyway, maybe around 12? Bleah
now i have to pick up tiger & dragon again, stopped at the first episode but i've watched th SP thou, yoshitsune might be a little bit difficult, i think i wont watch gokusen 2....skimmed thru the first episode and i cant even stand it for 5 mins............
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