oooooooooooooohhhhhh ok ahochaude!! thanks thanx big time
nowww then niko what does the yori mean??

barooboodoo wrote:

oooooooooooooohhhhhh ok ahochaude!! thanks thanx big time nowww then niko what does the yori mean??

Niko2x was trying to say end it with "yori" because a meaning of "yori" is "from". In a letter format, I've never seen an ending with "yori" before. It may be a possible ending to a letter, but like I said, I've never seen it before.
Personally, "yoroshiku" is a lot "safer" to use, as it is pretty much a "fail safe" method.

ok ok i got it now ahochaude...
that was a severe japanese thrashing you gave niko tho

barooboodoo wrote:

ok ok i got it now ahochaude... that was a severe japanese thrashing you gave niko tho

If its aho-kun, then i know he means well. Actually i've always closed my letters to my in-laws with yori, a lot less forma than yoroshiku, but you can do either...
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ahochaude wrote:

Niko2x was trying to say end it with "yori" because a meaning of "yori" is "from". In a letter format, I've never seen an ending with "yori" before. It may be a possible ending to a letter, but like I said, I've never seen it before. Personally, "yoroshiku" is a lot "safer" to use, as it is pretty much a "fail safe" method.

Just to add a little of my own experience I find most of my younger japanese friends in emails end them with nani nani yori, but written letters and some of my older friends emails all typically use yoroshiku... to be honest I didn't really understand the use of yori either but I've seen it a lot, especially from younger people...

niko2x wrote:

If its aho-kun, then i know he means well. Actually i've always closed my letters to my in-laws with yori, a lot less formal than yoroshiku, but you can do either...

Really? I learned something then. Arigatou na?!
I guess I've never seen it before because no one I know closes their letters to me with "yori". Also, I've never seen it in other letters whether it be on TV or whatever.
In fact, come to think of it, NO ONE writes me letters.........

barooboodoo wrote:

ok ok i got it now ahochaude... that was a severe japanese thrashing you gave niko tho

Don't take it the wrong way. It wasn't intended to be a "Japanese thrashing" to Niko2x. He's a cool guy, so I wouldn't do such to him.
His Japanese is really good too.
I was just trying to say that I haven't heard of "yori" being applied to letters. I also couldn't read the Japanese text he applied in explaination to it because I'm using a computer from work. (All I saw were wierd shapes) As it does not allow me to download Japanese text support. *Saiyaku!*
Now, from what I understand, it's an informal ending to a letter.
If writing to your father, I would suggest to use the "yoroshiku" rather than the "yori", as you would use "yori" in letters to your friends and/or what not. Also, it looks a lot better on paper and like I said earlier, a "fail safe". So, good luck in writing that letter to your father and if you need assistance, someone here can/will help.

Sorejya.....

ithink it'z like when you are writing to your friend, you can just end with "From, (your name)".....but then, in other case when politely to say teachers/parents to show respect, you end with "Sincerely, (your name)"

i would like to learn japanese like hi how are and stuff like that and how to say bad words in japanese :twisted:

sangmin wrote:

i would like to learn japanese like hi how are and stuff like that and how to say bad words in japanese

Osu-What's up
Ohayo-Good morning
Konnichiha-Good afternoon
Konbanha-Good evening
Yo-Yo (Hey)
Moshi Moshi-Hello? (telephone)

Genki desu ka-How are you? (Lit. Are you well?)
Ikagadesuka-How are you?

Warui kotoba/tango Nihongo de-Bad words in Japanese

i'm bad, i know just the naughty words in japanese.

ok ok i'm glad this *sparring between ahochaude and niko is over!! lol i'll stop starting these uncomfortable exchanges now
BUT niko brought another detail to my attention, i've heard -kun used in rockman.exe (the anime) and i'm not sure where it fits in with the other suffixes to names. I have an idea that it's sort of a friend to friend thing but just wondered if any sensei/don't know how to say masters out there can list all those pretty suffixes? thanks in advance

I think it is better if people type their responses in hiragana/katakana since people in Japan dont use "english-syllable-translated" japanese. It is best to put the english syllables at the end for reference. This is just an opinion. Maybe someone can also put up a hiragana/katakana translation table.

X10A_Freedom wrote:

I think it is better if people type their responses in hiragana/katakana since people in Japan dont use "english-syllable-translated" japanese. It is best to put the english syllables at the end for reference. This is just an opinion. Maybe someone can also put up a hiragana/katakana translation table.

Would you care to demonstrate?

It's true they don't use "English-syllable-translated Japanese", like you said.

But you're forgetting one important thing...........THEY HAVE/USE ROMAJI!

Why don't you check topics under this section other than this one? Maybe you'll find that there are hiragana/katakana tables posted already. Not to mention links to hiragana/katakana sites.

Also, perhaps it may be easier for some to read the translation in romaji first, before we get involved with the Japanese writing system. I'm pretty confident to say that everyone learned how to speak before they began to read and write. (First language, second language, doesn't matter)

One more thing, look at the Japanese level of some people here.... Do you think that some may know how to read the explainations if it were posted in hiragana/katakana? -Right, I don't think so.
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barooboodoo wrote:

ok ok i'm glad this *sparring between ahochaude and niko is over!! lol i'll stop starting these uncomfortable exchanges now BUT niko brought another detail to my attention, i've heard -kun used in rockman.exe (the anime) and i'm not sure where it fits in with the other suffixes to names. I have an idea that it's sort of a friend to friend thing but just wondered if any sensei/don't know how to say masters out there can list all those pretty suffixes? thanks in advance

You may use "kun" to males who are younger than and less superior than you are.

Also, if you are like a department manager, (something with a title like
that) you may refer to your "underlings"/"employees" to such. (May also be used to refer to women as well)

"Kun" is not a formal suffix as "san" may be





"Name suffixes"......

-chan
-kun
-san
-sama

ahhh yes aho-san (is that a paradox) to the rescue again...
kinda funny that i learned hiragana before i learned to speak then proceeded to learn hundreds of random words and no grammar and skip katakana!! that's the way to learn japanese people...

barooboodoo wrote:

ahhh yes aho-san (is that a paradox) to the rescue again... kinda funny that i learned hiragana before i learned to speak then proceeded to learn hundreds of random words and no grammar and skip katakana!! that's the way to learn japanese people...

You know what's kind of funny?

Niko2x and you refer to me as "aho-kun"/"aho-san". In essence, you guys are calling me "idiot-san"/"idiot-kun". I assume it's an abbreviation to my username "Ahochaude" which means "I'm NOT an idiot".

But I do find it funny. And I don't mind it at all. Just wanted to say it because sometimes it cracks me up when I see "Aho-kun"/"Aho-san"/(or just plainly) "Aho".

*slight laughter (after thinking about it)*

ahochaude wrote:

Would you care to demonstrate? It's true they don't use "English-syllable-translated Japanese", like you said. But you're forgetting one important thing...........THEY HAVE/USE ROMAJI! Why don't you check topics under this section other than this one? Maybe you'll find that there are hiragana/katakana tables posted already. Not to mention links to hiragana/katakana sites. Also, perhaps it may be easier for some to read the translation in romaji first, before we get involved with the Japanese writing system. I'm pretty confident to say that everyone learned how to speak before they began to read and write. (First language, second language, doesn't matter) One more thing, look at the Japanese level of some people here.... Do you think that some may know how to read the explainations if it were posted in hiragana/katakana? -Right, I don't think so. Why run before learning how to walk? -���ꂶ��.�@(Sorejya) ("Alright then"/Laters) -�������@��?�@�i���ꂵ���@���H�j�@(ureshii ka?) (Are you happy?) Personally, I think this way is �߂�ǂ��������I (Mendoukusai!) (Humbug/pain in the ass!)

X10A_Freedom:

i totally agree with ahochaude, how are you supposed to teach a baby how to run if he/she doesn't learn to crawl and then walk. Maybe, you overlook something here, as aho-kun said, here's the mentioned link (and made by me......learn to use it, and then you can learn to use hiragana/katana willingly and freely in this post-> http://jdorama.com/viewtopic_1666.htm):

Katagana/Hiragana Table


http://jdorama.com/viewtopic_2562.htm

heya i was talking to an old japanese friend recently and he said that matane was basically the same thing as jaa ne, is that true? I'm only asking cuz i couldn't find it in the dictionary

barooboodoo wrote:

heya i was talking to an old japanese friend recently and he said that matane was basically the same thing as jaa ne, is that true? I'm only asking cuz i couldn't find it in the dictionary

"Jya ne" is like "Alright then/Bye"
"Matta ne" is like "Laters/I'll see you again"

Pretty much same thing. You decide which you're going to use. Application is not a problem because it's like either saying, "I'll see you later" or "Alright then".

Hope you understand because I didn't really feel like going too much into detail about it. Just the general purpose of application.

ya no worries i got it from that i guess i'll go with "matta ne"
thanks for clarifying the spelling on all that too i've seen jya ne spelled so many damn ways i started thinking jaa was right... i guess even a native speaker can mess up spelling too then