Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 4009 Location: East Coast, US Country:
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 4:39 am Post subject:
ahochaude wrote:
Why pay N. Korea? Yeah it's true that they were one nation before. But now N. Korea is their own nation. A communist nation, I may add. The money won't go to the public. It'll go to that fat bastard Kim Jong Il. Upon receipt, he'll use it to further build his wealth and apply portions of it to his nuclear project program. N. Korea is a poor country who would do anything for additional funds. But like I said, look at the way they spend their money.
Why would Japan want to "fund" something like that? Yeah, it is unfortunate what happened to them (Koreans) during Japan's colonial rule. If Japan were to pay N. Korea, what would you do/say after a nuclear missle flies over your head?
What makes you think that JPN is not repaying? JPN is one of the biggest aids giver to N.Korea in money AND food. Yet Kim Jr. is always talking like the world owes him something. _________________
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 4:42 am Post subject:
niko2x wrote:
What makes you think that JPN is not repaying? JPN is one of the biggest aids giver to N.Korea in money AND food. Yet Kim Jr. is always talking like the world owes him something.
i know man that dude has some serious problems.... some one has to kick his butt to bring him back down to reality
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 4:48 am Post subject:
niko2x wrote:
What makes you think that JPN is not repaying? JPN is one of the biggest aids giver to N.Korea in money AND food. Yet Kim Jr. is always talking like the world owes him something.
Yeah, you're right. The money being payed (which you mentioned) is being applied as foreign aid only.
It does not apply to the payment they want for Japan's 1910-1945 colonial rule. They want extra for that.
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:18 am Post subject:
ahochaude wrote:
Yeah, you're right. The money being payed (which you mentioned) is being applied as foreign aid only.
It does not apply to the payment they want for Japan's 1910-1945 colonial rule. They want extra for that.
http://www.jdorama.com/viewtopic_2524_0.htm
What's that old saying? Put all you wishes in one hole and $hit in the other hole in the ground and see which one fills up faster. They can wish and complain all they want, but if they don't just (actually, just him) be normal in a sence most world leaders are, they shouldn't get jack from anyone.
Normal is not pronouncing the world is against you and hoarding nukes. Normal is not to shoot missiles at will just to garner attention, I can go on and on... _________________
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:55 am Post subject:
niko2x wrote:
What's that old saying? Put all you wishes in one hole and $hit in the other hole in the ground and see which one fills up faster. They can wish and complain all they want, but if they don't just (actually, just him) be normal in a sence most world leaders are, they shouldn't get jack from anyone.
Normal is not pronouncing the world is against you and hoarding nukes. Normal is not to shoot missiles at will just to garner attention, I can go on and on...
Yeah, he's a piece of shit. Since we got Saddam, now we can get that fat bastard! _________________
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 6:10 am Post subject:
ahochaude wrote:
Yeah, he's a piece of shit. Since we got Saddam, now we can get that fat bastard!
Well, I would have to say priorities brah. Before Kim, we might want to resolve the "bin laden thing".
Incidently this is funny (althought very tasteless), Captured Saddam Action Figure. Just ready for the holiday season. BTW, aho, check your pm. _________________
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 7:45 am Post subject:
Have people considered that Japan has indeed paid Korea back in a certain way?
Didn't Japan show Korea (maybe S. Korea but still) how to build automobile factories and basically come out with their own cars? I even believe Japan fronted a lot of the money also. The Korean cars directly compete against certain Japanese models. However...Japan was still willing to do this. Look at what it has done for the S. Korean economy. This is a bigger pay back than some monetary compensation. I don't think it is Japan's fault that N. Korea is a communist country run by a dictator where they did not get the benefit from this.
While I don't think this is necessarily direct compensation to those who had atrocities committed against them...it was a way of 1980's Japan to say sorry to Korea and to help them out and to try and have better relations.
I believe it was a big success. I think slowly but surely Japan is more officially acknowledging these crimes.
I believe Japan has also helped China build many manufacturing plants. There was a good drama on not too long ago called A Son of the Good Earth.
In that drama it showed Japan helping China build its first steel manufacturing plant. I don't believe it was fiction.
The drama was great. It shows how we all can overcome hardships and if we take the right outlook...you can still be a success...not matter how hard the circumstances.
It was also a drama that was a joint effort between China and Japan. I think it helped mend old wounds. It's the action that is more important and not necessarily just words.
Let's face it. Some people just don't want to forgive and forget. I think most Japanese American have just moved on from being held in the camps.
Now don't get me wrong...I do think the government of Japan has indeed kept a little too quiet about this but it's incorrect to say Japan has not done anything to help those countries out.
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 7:49 am Post subject:
BmwM3Rod wrote:
Have people considered that Japan has indeed paid Korea back in a certain way?
Didn't Japan show Korea (maybe S. Korea but still) how to build automobile factories and basically come out with their own cars? I even believe Japan fronted a lot of the money also. The Korean cars directly compete against certain Japanese models. However...Japan was still willing to do this. Look at what it has done for the S. Korean economy. This is a bigger pay back than some monetary compensation. I don't think it is Japan's fault that N. Korea is a communist country run by a dictator where they did not get the benefit from this.
While I don't think this is necessarily direct compensation to those who had atrocities committed against them...it was a way of 1980's Japan to say sorry to Korea and to help them out and to try and have better relations.
I believe it was a big success. I think slowly but surely Japan is more officially acknowledging these crimes.
I believe Japan has also helped China build many manufacturing plants. There was a good drama on not too long ago called A Son of the Good Earth.
In that drama it showed Japan helping China build its first steel manufacturing plant. I don't believe it was fiction.
The drama was great. It shows how we all can overcome hardships and if we take the right outlook...you can still be a success...not matter how hard the circumstances.
It was also a drama that was a joint effort between China and Japan. I think it helped mend old wounds. It's the action that is more important and not necessarily just words.
Let's face it. Some people just don't want to forgive and forget. I think most Japanese American have just moved on from being held in the camps.
Now don't get me wrong...I do think the government of Japan has indeed kept a little too quiet about this but it's incorrect to say Japan has not done anything to help those countries out.
AMEN BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those assholes up north just want $ for their nuclear program. Plain and simple!
They're pretty much using that colonial rule thing as an excuse and reason as to why they think they're entitled to any type of compensation. _________________
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 7:52 am Post subject:
niko2x wrote:
Well, I would have to say priorities brah. Before Kim, we might want to resolve the "bin laden thing".
Incidently this is funny (althought very tasteless), Captured Saddam Action Figure. Just ready for the holiday season. BTW, aho, check your pm.
Yeah that's true. We do have priorities. We have to get that goat shit Bin Laden first. I have a feeling it won't be too much longer until we do. (I don't know why though) But it'd be nice if we could stop all the bullshit.
(Thanks. Checked my P.M. Now I know why. Comment: I didn't think it was like that) _________________
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 11:26 am Post subject:
lovelessemotion wrote:
woooo hoooo i just finished my last final exam!!! now off for 3 weeks...(then spring semester starts....dang!)... hopefully i will be able to get more jdorama & gunbound time in! maybe i'll even get some time in aswell.....lol
Coronas?
Heh. Nah, I know it already...... _________________
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:16 pm Post subject:
Ren wrote:
Anyone here own FF-11 online? Maybe we can start a jdorama party.
ugh i wish ren my comp can't run it!!! I have to wait till f'ckin march to play it on ps2!!!! I DID start a galkan monk on my friends comp tho....sadly if i were going to play i'd join my old cs crew they all ditched me and cs to play it!!!
Joined: 27 Nov 2003 Posts: 79 Location: Austria Country:
Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 6:55 pm Post subject:
*reads reads reads*
my 2 cents... no more bloody reperations. I'm tired of it. During the past few years some lawyers from the States tried to get reperations from german and austrian companies, which had some profit from using concentration camp prisoners for work. They also tried it with our government. It's a dark chapter in history, yes, but I don't see why the current generation in charge should pay for it. I don't see why my taxes should be used for it. Heck, my great-grand father was in a camp too, since he was communist, and my family never got anything after the war.
The war was over 60 years ago, I'm not responsible for what happened back then, so I will sure as hell not pay for anything.
The war's over, most people from back then are dead already, the rest will die within some years anyway.
If that's common now, I think Austria should go ahead and demand reparations from Italy for occupying South Tyrol after the armistace in 1918. Or maybe we should go ahead and demand money from Turkey, since they invaded us twice several centuries ago...
Such things are just damn stupid... but well, once lawyers are involved... nuff said
*does a dance cause the year's over soon*
And I made my DVD "to buy" list hehe. This will be a loooooong year lol
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 12:14 am Post subject: Just got a new BMW!
I now have a red BMW too. Top that Bmwracer! (JK) Actually, and unfortunately, this is the only kind I can afford, so I'll gladly share with you all.
Kinda like origami, but kinda not... _________________
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time in aswell.....lol
my comp can't run it!!! I have to wait till f'ckin march to play it on ps2!!!! I DID start a galkan monk on my friends comp tho....sadly if i were going to play i'd join my old cs crew they all ditched me and cs to play it!!! 
(JK) Actually, and unfortunately, this is the only kind I can afford, so I'll gladly share with you all.
