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											|  Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 2:58 am    Post subject: |    |   
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													 	  | lovelessemotion wrote: |  	  | yeah maybe that's why i got a *** for my grade in my japanese class...   
 anyway what the heck is mo for then? only when its negative?
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 hehehe
 well, i think 'mo' is the japanese form of 'too'
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 me too --> watashi mo
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											|  Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 4:11 am    Post subject: |    |   
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													yeah i know that...but what about when its a particle in negatives... like koohii mo koocha mo nomimasen 	  | arnel98 wrote: |  	  | hehehe
 well, i think 'mo' is the japanese form of 'too'
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 me too --> watashi mo
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											|  Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 4:18 am    Post subject: |    |   
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													 	  | lovelessemotion wrote: |  	  | yeah i know that...but what about when its a particle in negatives... like koohii mo koocha mo nomimasen | 
 ah, that's way too advance for me
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													From the Japanese Language Dictionary (http://www.trussel.com/f_nih.htm ):
 
akewatasu
 
(v5s) to vacate; to surrender
 
gunmonnikudaru
 
(exp) to capitulate; to surrender
 
gyokuonban
 
(n) recording disc (of the Imperial surrender message)
 
hadawoyurusu
 
(exp) to surrender one's chastity to a man
 
jinmon
 
(n) surrender to the enemy
 
jishu
 
(n,vs) surrender; give oneself up; (P)
 
kankou
 
(n) call to surrender
 
kanraku
 
(n) fall; sinking; surrender; capitulation; (P)
 
kifuku
 
(n) submission; surrender
 
kifuku
 
(n) submission; surrender
 
koufuku
 
(n) capitulation; surrender; submission; (P)
 
koufuku
 
(n) capitulation; surrender; submission
 
kuppuku
 
(n,vs) yielding; submission; surrender; giving way; succumbing
 
kuppuku
 
(n,vs) yielding; submission; surrender; giving way; succumbing
 
mujoukenkoufuku
 
(n) unconditional surrender
 
rakujou
 
(n) surrender (fall) of a castle
 
shikkan
 
(n) surrender; fall
 
tewatasu
 
(v5s) to hand over; to surrender; (P)
 
toukou
 
(n) surrender; (P)
 
yuzuru
 
(v5r) to turn over; to assign; to hand over; to transmit; to convey; to sell; to dispose of; to yield; to surrender; (P)												 |  |   
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													 	  | Quote: |  	  | "what the hell do you want?" | 
 
 pronounced like  nani tendayo = would be like "What the hell are you talking about"
 but remember this isn't the prefered polite version
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													 	  | westfox09 wrote: |  	  | can i ask hw do u do a formal jikosyokai in kansai-ben? | 
 
 erm... am i being ignored? lol
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													the jdorama member "ahochaude" is the grand master of osaka-ben. when he returns i'm sure he'll reply. 	  | westfox09 wrote: |  	  | can i ask hw do u do a formal jikosyokai in kansai-ben? | 
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													 	  | lovelessemotion wrote: |  	  | yeah i know that...but what about when its a particle in negatives... like koohii mo koocha mo nomimasen | 
 
 Same thing in negatives.
 
 "I don't drink coffee and tea."
 
 I know where you got confused by the "or" part.  But, "And" is the phrase being implemented in this particular sentence.
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											|  Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 11:21 pm    Post subject: |    |   
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													 	  | yareyare wrote: |  	  | Some of my japanese friends at times correct me with �Ƃ��@(toka) to be used as "or", but I've never quite understood exactly why, for example,
 I once said :
 Makudo ka kenchiki ka, nani ga ii desu ka?
 and a friend told me should be
 makudo toka kenchiki
 
 I'm just not quite sure what the difference is... ?
 
 by the way, for those not familiar with some fast food slang,
 makudo = mcdonald's
 kenchiki = kentucky fried chicken
 
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 If I'm not mistaken
 �Ƃ� / toka usually used when you're trying to remember something or when you're uncertain about 'choosing/deciding something'
 The meaning of 'Makudo ka kenchiki ka,...' and 'makudo toka kenchiki...' might be the same.
 But the use of particle 'or' is more proper in 'makudo toka kenchiki...'
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