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haziiie

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setfree
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| haziiie wrote: |
and chotto means "little" or "moment"
like chotto matte means "wait a moment" right?
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aqwertyuiop
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Keps

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Ikuko
Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Posts: 5 Location: Paris Country:   |
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| Keps wrote: | What's the difference between
- arigatou gozaimasu AND
- arigatou gozaimashita?
Both seem to get subbed the same - as "thank you". |
the "shita" means the past. Like in the verb "suru" (to do) present is "shimasu" and past is "shimashita".
When you say "Arigatou gozaimasu", you thank you sb who is doing something for you. When you say "Arigatou gozaimashita" you thank you sb for something he has done for you. ^^
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Keps

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Posts: 2034 Location: United Kingdom Country:   |
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| Ikuko wrote: |
the "shita" means the past. Like in the verb "suru" (to do) present is "shimasu" and past is "shimashita".
When you say "Arigatou gozaimasu", you thank you sb who is doing something for you. When you say "Arigatou gozaimashita" you thank you sb for something he has done for you. ^^ |
Ah, I'd wondered if it was something like that.
Thanks for helping me, Ikuko.
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Anime Dad

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Anime Dad

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obentou

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 1814 Location: �C�P�����E�p���_�C�X <3 Country:   |
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:43 am Post subject: |
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kokuou

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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Anime Dad wrote: | Aaaaah! Gotcha. So, it's not actually �@it's �� for a duplicate "k".
Hmm, none of the sites I looked up mentioned that.
Thanks, a-nesuto! |
A little linguistics knowledge:
The small tsu (��) is used for what is called "gemination" in Japanese.
Gemination is a word used in linguistics to describe when a sound is doubled (either a vowel or a consonant), lengthening that sound to twice it's original length. Because consonant sounds like "k" and "t" are simply the tongue stopping at a particular location in the mouth (hence why we call these types of sounds "stops"), the length of time in which this contact between the tongue and the roof of the mouth is lengthened.
We have a gemination in English, although it's not as prominent as in Japanese:
unnecessary
(the 'n' is twice as long as when it appears in other locations--if you shorten the 'n', or degeminate it, it sounds like you are saying "a necessary").
Just a little linguistic knowledge for y'all, cuz god knows when I'll actually get to explain it to someone who cares.
������ _________________
"I like the word 'indolence'. It makes my laziness seem classy."
-Bern Williams
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MikeinLeiden
Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Keps wrote: | | @ Anime Dad - when you come to learn katakana, there's a small tsu used similarly there too. |
�V�b�P <- Shi_small tsu_Ke in Katakana. aka Shikke
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Anime Dad

Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 11363 Location: �I�[�X�g�����A Country:   |
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| kokuou wrote: |
A little linguistics knowledge:
The small tsu (��) is used for what is called "gemination" in Japanese.
Gemination is a word used in linguistics to describe when a sound is doubled (either a vowel or a consonant), lengthening that sound to twice it's original length. Because consonant sounds like "k" and "t" are simply the tongue stopping at a particular location in the mouth (hence why we call these types of sounds "stops"), the length of time in which this contact between the tongue and the roof of the mouth is lengthened.
We have a gemination in English, although it's not as prominent as in Japanese:
unnecessary
(the 'n' is twice as long as when it appears in other locations--if you shorten the 'n', or degeminate it, it sounds like you are saying "a necessary").
Just a little linguistic knowledge for y'all, cuz god knows when I'll actually get to explain it to someone who cares.
������ |
Thanks kokuou-sensei I'm slowly learning these things - and that definitely helped
@keps-chan
Yeah, i'm looking forward to katakana, but it's gonna be a while yet at the rate i'm going
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Keps

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Posts: 2034 Location: United Kingdom Country:   |
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| Anime Dad wrote: |
@keps-chan
Yeah, i'm looking forward to katakana, but it's gonna be a while yet at the rate i'm going  |
Nah, you'll be fine, I'm sure. You'll be surprised just how much you can read when you learn Katakana. It's on all types of notices in Jdramas - it's fun working out what it means.
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4Qbmr

Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 95 Location: Lompoc Country:   |
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:43 am Post subject: |
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| Keps wrote: |
Nah, you'll be fine, I'm sure. You'll be surprised just how much you can read when you learn Katakana. It's on all types of notices in Jdramas - it's fun working out what it means.
| Keps & AnimeDad, just remember the Japanese alphabet has no "L" or "V", they substitute "R" for "L" and "B" for "V" I was reading something once, and the guy was saying"allergy" in katakana. Took me about 20 minutes to figure out what the hell he was talking about!
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Anime Dad

Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 11363 Location: �I�[�X�g�����A Country:   |
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qilver

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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| Anime Dad wrote: |
Thanks kokuou-sensei I'm slowly learning these things - and that definitely helped
@keps-chan
Yeah, i'm looking forward to katakana, but it's gonna be a while yet at the rate i'm going  |
i plan on studying that next, after i get thru the Hiragana book, i bought months back....
there are 46 characters of each kind, i think Kanji will take years and years to learn it with thousands of characters to learn.
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Anime Dad

Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 11363 Location: �I�[�X�g�����A Country:   |
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:41 am Post subject: |
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| qilver wrote: |
i plan on studying that next, after i get thru the Hiragana book, i bought months back....
there are 46 characters of each kind, i think Kanji will take years and years to learn it with thousands of characters to learn. |
There's actually a lot more Hiragana, if you count all the combination ones like kya (����). Just adds to the fun
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qilver

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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:54 am Post subject: |
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| Anime Dad wrote: |
There's actually a lot more Hiragana, if you count all the combination ones like kya (����). Just adds to the fun  |
and confusion...lol
i bet get started in my Japanese studies, on my own, before my trip in July.
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