I'll take your word for it. My Japanese language skills are mostly related to food subjects and not much grammar.

K.T.Tran wrote:

hahahha so i was kinda right

Yep.
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i don't really remember touching the areas of love in japanese class, but i think no koto was mentioned....my memory is just lacking right now


i believe we can use "no koto" in few different ways
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A little question about names. I was wondering if you need to put a space between the last name and first name when there are only 3 kanji. I almost never see spaces when there are 4, but sometimes with 3 they have spaces, sometimes not.

Like this person Kawai Yu: http://jdorama.com/artiste.2562.htm
Should I write her name �͍��D , �͍� �D or both are fine?

Thank you.
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tabana wrote:

A little question about names. I was wondering if you need to put a space between the last name and first name when there are only 3 kanji. I almost never see spaces when there are 4, but sometimes with 3 they have spaces, sometimes not. Like this person Kawai Yu: http://jdorama.com/artiste.2562.htm Should I write her name �͍��D , �͍� �D or both are fine? Thank you.

I think I would wait for a more definitive answer, but I would say consistency is the key. If you're going to use spaces, use it all the time.

tabana wrote:

A little question about names. I was wondering if you need to put a space between the last name and first name when there are only 3 kanji. I almost never see spaces when there are 4, but sometimes with 3 they have spaces, sometimes not. Like this person Kawai Yu: http://jdorama.com/artiste.2562.htm Should I write her name �͍��D , �͍� �D or both are fine? Thank you.

Yeah, you can put a space between first names and last names regardless of how many kanjis there are.

HTH,
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"I like the word 'indolence'. It makes my laziness seem classy."
-Bern Williams

minna,

arigatou for the info. i'm learning how to write kata & hira right now..

my friend said my kata&hira handwriting is bad..

aisya_chan wrote:

minna, arigatou for the info. i'm learning how to write kata & hira right now.. my friend said my kata&hira handwriting is bad..

Practice makes perfect! Although, make sure you are writing them in the correct order!

Julieh wrote:

Practice makes perfect! Although, make sure you are writing them in the correct order!

correct order? u mean? i dont understand.. gomennasai..

aisya_chan wrote:

correct order? u mean? i dont understand.. gomennasai..

Like Kanji, there's a correct stroke order to write in.

I'm sure there are better guides out there, but look at this one:

http://members.aol.com/writejapan/hiragana/writutor.htm

There you can see how the individual characters are properly written! It's best that you learn it the right way the first time, or else you will continue to write them the wrong way! Trust me, I know! I still miss sometimes :/

They have specific way / order on how to write them. Like for the alphabet, you write "i" from top to bottom and not bottom to top. They are sometimes called brush strokes order. You could write it the way you want to, but it'll look weird if someone watches you. It's better to do it sooner than later, because bad habits are hard to break.

Here's the one for a:

Found a partial list here. It should be easy to find the rest in a good book, online or ask your friend.



Thanks kokuou & dochira for the quick answer.

*edit* Too slow. Great link Julieh.
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I think it may be wise to skip the writing part for lather, and start learning kanjis meanings and readings first. As we all know, we are living in the computer age..

funny thing was with me is that when i first started writing i thought it didn't matter which stroke i started with, but the strokes order they tell you to do it in is a lot lot lot easier and easier to remember too

You'll see what i mean as you start writing more
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tabana wrote:

edit* Too slow. Great link Julieh.

I just did a quick google, but I've been to that site before. Luckily I've been studying hiragana in class, and I didn't practice that many before! (So I don't miss on many )

Much more efficient than the 15minutes I've spent sorting my bookmarks. I've learned it through a software, so I've never really wrote one before. Unless you count the Nintendo DS. I'm not even sure if I remember how to write them.

�P���B�� wrote:

I think it may be wise to skip the writing part for lather, and start learning kanjis meanings and readings first. As we all know, we are living in the computer age..

I'd have to agree on that. Unless you take classes or intend to go live there, you can skip it. It's probably more useful to know how to type them in text messages than to write them.

K.T.Tran wrote:

funny thing was with me is that when i first started writing i thought it didn't matter which stroke i started with, but the strokes order they tell you to do it in is a lot lot lot easier and easier to remember too

As soon as you know the basic rules, it comes naturally.
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I am using Hiragana practice sheets from TokyoMokyo: They are good because they show you the correct stroke order and direction. They have Katakana and Kanji sheets too.

http://www.tokyomokyo.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=87

K.T.Tran wrote:

funny thing was with me is that when i first started writing i thought it didn't matter which stroke i started with, but the strokes order they tell you to do it in is a lot lot lot easier and easier to remember too You'll see what i mean as you start writing more

Not only is it easier, it's the proper way to write.

dochira wrote:

Not only is it easier, it's the proper way to write.

yea......you're right
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Julieh wrote:

Like Kanji, there's a correct stroke order to write in. I'm sure there are better guides out there, but look at this one: http://members.aol.com/writejapan/hiragana/writutor.htm There you can see how the individual characters are properly written! It's best that you learn it the right way the first time, or else you will continue to write them the wrong way! Trust me, I know! I still miss sometimes :/

thanks for the link. i am learning right now. kanji is so hard.

sometimes i wrote kata/hira in the wrong way, maybe that's the reason my writing look bad.

Question here. ^^

Anata, kimi, and omae all mean "you", right? Is there a significant difference when using them? Because of watching Jdo's, a recently found out that "anata" can also mean "honey" or "dear", or whatever a wife would call her husband. And then there's "anta", which sounds like a rude version of anata to me. And omae..I've only heard actors with yakuza roles use them. Oh, and recently, someone told me to avoid using "anata" because it's 'rude', and said 'kimi' is probably the safest. Sigh, this is confusing

Can someone enlighten me regarding this?
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obentou wrote:

Question here. ^^ Anata, kimi, and omae all mean "you", right? Is there a significant difference when using them? Because of watching Jdo's, a recently found out that "anata" can also mean "honey" or "dear", or whatever a wife would call her husband. And then there's "anta", which sounds like a rude version of anata to me. And omae..I've only heard actors with yakuza roles use them. Oh, and recently, someone told me to avoid using "anata" because it's 'rude', and said 'kimi' is probably the safest. Sigh, this is confusing Can someone enlighten me regarding this?

There's also Teme (spelling?) and Kisama
Both are rude ways of saying you.

I'm not all sure on this either, but kimi does sound like its the nicest way of saying "you" to someone. Saying Omae to someone who you know well and are close to i guess is not a big problem. After all, you hear it in dramas too when the characters say omae to their friends or people they are close to. I don't think "anata" is all that rude....
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