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Julieh



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

IZUMIgrad wrote:
Instead of kudasai, consider using onegai shimasu when asking for a service or kuremasen ka when asking for a favor.


Thanks, I'll write that down! Big Grin

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Kudasai is written ������. The kanji �� means below, so kudasai theoretically is used when you address someone below you or someone in your close group.


I didn't know that, about the kudasai being used addressing someone below me... Hm...

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Using the wrong particle of wrong word order is not so important when you are a foreigner in Japan. People will always understand you. It's more important to use the proper polite form. When you're not sure, use the higher form. It's better to sound too formal than rude.


Maybe I'll get my Japanese teacher to go over them, before I go Smile

Thanks! Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

how about
iam glad too see u today
and also i am sorry
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

suzzy wrote:
how about
iam glad too see u today
and also i am sorry


- yokatta anata de mimasu.
- gomen(nasai).

again not shure about the particle in the first phrase..
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

�P���B�� wrote:


- yokatta anata de mimasu.
- gomen(nasai).


again not shure about the particle in the first phrase..


arigatou w00t!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

i know i should of said it before
but i just wanto makesure
how do u say
let go is is ikuzo and is jaa nah later Fingers crossed
help me please Bang Head
if the spelling is wrong iam sorry
iam any way close to them Fingers crossed
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

suzzy-chan, your questions are too general. In America you can use generic phrases like "glad to see you" and "I'm sorry" when you address just about anyone. But in Japan you must use different formulas depending on who you are speaking with and what the circumstance is. For example, if you bump into someone in the street, "gomen" may not be polite enough. Or if you must apologize to your boss, "gomen" will sound disrespectful or even insulting. In the first example, you can say "sumimasen", in the second example, "moushiwake gozaimasen".

As for "let go" you probably mean "let's go".
Let's go = ikimashou.
Let's go (very informal) = iko.
Shall we go? = ikimashou ka.
Would you like to go? = ikimasen ka.

"Jaa nah later"?!? If you mean "see you later" that would be "mata atode".
"Well, see you" would be:
Informal = Jaa.
Formal = Sore jaa.
Polite = Sore dewa.
If you're a woman, you can add "ne" at the end.

Make sure to use the proper polite form depending on who you talk to. You shouldn't say "jaa ne" when saying goodbye to your boss.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

oh danxs
i noe the words, but when i type them out, it seems so weird
like missin some letters in them
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

saikira wrote:
oh danxs
i noe the words, but when i type them out, it seems so weird
like missin some letters in them

Just to be sure I understand, typing Japanese seems weird because of missing letters? Head Scratch

Foreign languages are just that, foreign.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

IZUMIgrad wrote:
suzzy-chan, your questions are too general. In America you can use generic phrases like "glad to see you" and "I'm sorry" when you address just about anyone. But in Japan you must use different formulas depending on who you are speaking with and what the circumstance is. For example, if you bump into someone in the street, "gomen" may not be polite enough. Or if you must apologize to your boss, "gomen" will sound disrespectful or even insulting. In the first example, you can say "sumimasen", in the second example, "moushiwake gozaimasen".

As for "let go" you probably mean "let's go".
Let's go = ikimashou.
Let's go (very informal) = iko.
Shall we go? = ikimashou ka.
Would you like to go? = ikimasen ka.

"Jaa nah later"?!? If you mean "see you later" that would be "mata atode".
"Well, see you" would be:
Informal = Jaa.
Formal = Sore jaa.
Polite = Sore dewa.
If you're a woman, you can add "ne" at the end.

Make sure to use the proper polite form depending on who you talk to. You shouldn't say "jaa ne" when saying goodbye to your boss.





wow thanks
and yes iam a girl so i have to add the ne
ok kool
i did not know all that i mean all the different formalies and such
for explain Beat YouBang Head
would jaa ne / jaa nah
be used wheni am talking to one of my friends or somthing like that right ????
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

kawaii! what does mean qhich form is too and does it has different formalities ???Crazy i think i may have phase it worng Puppy Dog EyesBonk
i always seeit when describing someone
i think it means cutie
well i don't but i would like to know
please help
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

- Indeed Jaa (ne) should only be used to close friends..
- You want to know the meaning of kawaii ? It means cute/pretty. You should use utsukushii when really saying something is beautifull..
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

�P���B�� wrote:
well, they are both right Mr Green

Ganbatte kudasai is more polite. Some will say Ganbatte ne which means literally You will do your best, right ? Or sometimes you will hear Ganbare or Ganbarimasu (also more formal). Those are just other verb conjugations that you shouldnt worry about, theres only a small difference in politeness between them..


perhaps i'll use ganbatte kudasai or ganbarimasu ( formal ). arigatou.. Mr Green
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Ganbatte = do your best
Ganbare = hang in there
Ganbarimasu = I'm doing my best
Ganbatte kudasai = please do your best (as your teacher of boss would say)
Guddo rakku = good luck

You can use some good online dictionaries or tutorials for instant and reliable answers to most of your questions. Some answers given in previous posts don't make any sense.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

�P���B�� wrote:
- Indeed Jaa (ne) should only be used to close friends..
- You want to know the meaning of kawaii ? It means cute/pretty. You should use utsukushii when really saying something is beautifull..


ook arigatou now i can say that fpr example that matsujun is kawaii right Fingers crossed
Sweat and i can say that my her hair is utsukushii ???Sweat
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

suzzy wrote:


ook arigatou now i can say that fpr example that matsujun is kawaii right Fingers crossed
Sweat and i can say that my her hair is utsukushii ???Sweat


yep..

allthough it is more impressive to use adjectives like utsukushii cause for some reason kawaii is known by any foreign visitor Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ohok arigatou Thanx! i learning w00t! iam getting it
someone want to know how u say those phase sorry about this
and does it have different formalies as well Bonk
what goes around come around and the last one is (be quite) i am doing watching tv
i now it a bit
much Bonk Beat You Smack!
but please help
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You mean you want the translation of the following phrases ?

- What goes around comes around.
- I am watching tv.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

�P���B�� wrote:

allthough it is more impressive to use adjectives like utsukushii cause for some reason kawaii is known by any foreign visitor Smile

Just as there are difference between "pretty" and "beautiful", I would think there are cases where you would use "kawaii" vs "utsukushii".

I hope this is correct, but the kanji is: (WWWJDIC)
utsukushii (������) - Kanji means "beauty".
kawaii (�ˆ���) - Kanji has "love" next to a character that means "passable" or "permissible".
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

suzzy wrote:
matsujun is kawaii

More like MatsuJun is busu. Beaten
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

�P���B�� wrote:


- yokatta anata de mimasu.
- gomen(nasai).

again not shure about the particle in the first phrase..


I don't mean to be disrespectful, and I'm sure your intentions are good, but please refrain from giving advice that is completely wrong. If you aren't familiar enough with the language, then it's not going to help anyone that is asking a question.

There is much more wrong with the first sentence than just the particle, by the way.

The only reason I say this is that people asking questions will take whatever you say to be true, whether what you have written is right or wrong.

Thanks,

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