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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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hi! hmm well if i were you, i wouldn't use kun for girls. i would be offended if someone referred to me with "kun"
i would wonder if they thought i was a guy


Yeah..I agree with you!!Thats what I learned but I thought its accepted in Japanese society Sweat Thanks

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and actually now that i think about it, to me it would have the same weirdness as someone walking up to a female friend and saying "sup, bro!"
i dunno how others might feel


This example is very clear! never thought of that!Thanks again!! Bonk


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I've never ever actually heard a girl using "boku" except in lyrics. Maybe Ootsuka Ai and other vocalists just didn't write the songs by themselves.


To be on the save side I wont use boku in a conversation!! hehe Thanks!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

chiba wrote:


To be on the save side I wont use boku in a conversation!! hehe Thanks!!!
    That's always the best policy chiba-san. You can never be too polite. Victory! Peace!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

If im not mistaken, the prefixes that can be used for women or girls are -chan (I think only for younger girls), -san and -sama (for married women)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hm, confusing with all these honourifics and when to use them Bleah I'd stick with -san to be on the safe side, but I think I've read somewhere that calling a (close) friend -san, is somewhat impolite. Like you don't consider that person to be friend enough to be called -kun/-chan.... lol...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

To clear up the question of using -kun for girls. kami_kaze answered this already a few pages back.



kami_kaze wrote:


From Wikipedia :
Kun (�N) is an informal and intimate honorific primarily used towards males. (It is still used towards females, but rarely.) It is used by persons of senior status in addressing those of junior status, by males of roughly the same age and status when addressing each other, and by anyone in addressing male children. In business settings, women, particularly young women, may also be addressed as kun by older males of senior status. It is sometimes used towards male pets as well.



So that's it. Thumbsup


I was trying to find an article regarding the issue of "boku", but came across this one. It's interesting imho, so I wanted to share it.

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Impolite Words...
Since Miko went ahead and did these, here is "How to start a fight in Japanese".


Shimatta (shoot, augh, dammit, etc. Doesn't mean quite any of those, but somewhere in between. Can be used by itself or immediately after a verb.)
Shimaimashita (more formal version of the latter. Actually usable in somewhat polite company after verbs, rather than as an excalmation.)
Baka (pretty standard, means stupid, blockhead)
Bakayarou (worse than just "baka"... "yarou" can mean "guy" in a rough way... also has connotations of "bastard")
Ahou (our moto Shinsengumi Sanbantai Kumichou's favourite derogatory phrase, means imbecile, moron)
Temae (Usually turns into "temeee" when used by fighter-guys such as Sano- of Rurouni Kenshin, technically means "you", but has that "you bastard" connotation)
Kisama (Also technically means "you", but more like "You *&$#ing bastard!!!!" in bold ^_^Wink
Chi (Uttered under your breath. Small, subdued curse when something goes wrong.)
Onore (Damn. Used mostly by guys.)
Kusou (Shit. Means exactly that. Shit. Usually yelled.)
Chikushou (More severe than "shit"'. Also usually yelled. Technically means "animal" or "beast")
Bu+verb (Means "*&^%ing + verb" E.g.: "bukkorosu" would be "*&^%ing kill"; "Kisama wo bukkorosu" would be "I'll *&^%ing kill you bastard!!!" ^_^; (Oh, "wo" is a particle))



That as fun. hehe
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Funny that females using "boku" has only come up in J-music lyrics... I'd still be interested in an opinion from a native Japanese though... Thanks to all those who commented anyhow.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Women should never us boku in any situation. Some pop singers use boku on purpose to sound ghetto. Some young girls also say boku among themselves to sound tough.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thank you IZUMIGrad, that makes sense. w00t!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

IZUMIgrad wrote:
Women should never us boku in any situation.

I've heard MatsuJun use it Gokusen.... Beaten
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:
I've heard MatsuJun use it Gokusen....

rofl
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

IZUMIgrad wrote:
Women should never us boku in any situation. Some pop singers use boku on purpose to sound ghetto. Some young girls also say boku among themselves to sound tough.


I see.. then can we use "ore" to sound even tougher? *^_^*
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I've heard that some girls use Boku because they are tom-boys is this not true?
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

obentou wrote:
I see.. then can we use "ore" to sound even tougher? *^_^*

Sure. But people will think you have a problem with your sexual identity. And it won't get you a boyfriend.
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I've heard that some girls use Boku because they are tom-boys is this not true?

Yes. Then they grow breasts and boys start looking at them and they all try to sound like Aya.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

lol rofl
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

@ IZUMIgrad
Shocked

xDDDDD But Aya is cute when she says boku though. ^_^
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

IZUMIgrad wrote:

Yes. Then they grow breasts and boys start looking at them and they all try to sound like Aya.



uhhhh...........Ueto Aya???
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

She'll get over it when she grows breasts
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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uhhhh...........Ueto Aya???


i'm with you on that one. always thought aya was ok in the rack dept! Mr Green
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

hi...can i know what character this is?

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