groink wrote:

Check out these U.S. statistics on broadband usage: http://news.com.com/2100-1038-5172107.html?tag=nefd_hed I'm amazed how Comcast, with their download limits and such, is beating out Road Runner. --- groink

They used to have RR ads all the ttime about 3 yrs ago here, but i think here in DC, RR was bought out by Cox Communication, which i think in turn was bought out by Comcast. I used to have Cox cable tv, but since about a yr ago, i started getting billed by comcast.

MixxDreamer wrote:

high speed @ school.. dunno what type of connection though but its fast

probably T1.... almost all colleges and universities use T1... its amazingly fast!

got dsl 1500/128kbps rated, but only around 1137/135kbps actual.
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I was using ADSL. I just switched to cable.

lovelessemotion wrote:

probably T1.... almost all colleges and universities use T1... its amazingly fast!

*envy*
min 3 hours for ONE Promotional Video....
wanna d/l all those files on BT.....

atheon wrote:

*envy* min 3 hours for ONE Promotional Video.... wanna d/l all those files on BT.....

Oh.. no need to envy those with T1. Cos most of the time the Universities limit their total ul/dl usage to about 500MB per week. Meaning the most u can dl in a week is about 1 ep of drama. Which is sad....

Smiley_18 wrote:

Oh.. no need to envy those with T1. Cos most of the time the Universities limit their total ul/dl usage to about 500MB per week. Meaning the most u can dl in a week is about 1 ep of drama. Which is sad....

500 mb is HUGE for me....i'll take forever to dl these....let me count...
maybe 30 hours....at least. if the line is fast.
so pls use pic as avatar.......... i had trouble loadin those "moving" ones.

atheon wrote:

500 mb is HUGE for me....i'll take forever to dl these....let me count... maybe 30 hours....at least. if the line is fast. so pls use pic as avatar.......... i had trouble loadin those "moving" ones.

How much do u dl/ week? U dl any dramas?

Smiley_18 wrote:

How much do u dl/ week? U dl any dramas?

nope.
just dl mp3 and PVs, or CMs. not much though, BT is useless for me.
my connection is 56k, damn slow.

Nismo wrote:

26M ADSL Gotta love Japan.

That's like 3250kB/s ?? DSL can support that?

I use 3000/640 kbps DSL, around 350/80 kB/s real world speed.

Smiley_18 wrote:

Oh.. no need to envy those with T1. Cos most of the time the Universities limit their total ul/dl usage to about 500MB per week. (

not this college and yeah some universities do limit... guess i got lucky

Hey, um, what is a T-1 connection?!
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ahochaude wrote:

Hey, um, what is a T-1 connection?!

Simply put, it's a REALLY fast connection that (big) businesses, universities, etc. use... It makes DSL, cable modem, et al, look like dialup....

T1 is not that fast only 1.544 mbps; DSL and Cable can already go faster than that. I think you're thinking of T3, which can go upto 43.232 mbps.

1300/256 DSL

Road Runner here in Louisiana.
$40/month

Been on cable all my life [home(cable), work(cable), college(T1)], sorry for those damned in the land of 56k...

SBC DSL... Not that fast... but good price.

RedRum wrote:

T1 is not that fast only 1.544 mbps; DSL and Cable can already go faster than that. I think you're thinking of T3, which can go upto 43.232 mbps.

The only REALLY HUGE difference between frame-relay circuits (ex: T1, T3, etc.) and cable/DSL is one thing that residental customers never hear of: CIR

CIR is "carrier information rate". In Laymen's terms, it basically means if I sign onto a contract with the telco for a certain data rate, I'm guaranteed that data rate for the duration of the contract. If at ANY time during the contract period I do not receive that data rate, the telco is penalized in accordance with the contract (usually via either subtracting the billable hours that the data rate wasn't met, or a penalty fee).

Did anyone ever sign a CIR contract for DSL or cable modem? Naaaaaaaaaaah! I didn't think so! You only see CIR contracts on T-1, T-3, OC-x, and other frame-relay circuits.

As for DSL or cable modem... It probably is faster than most frame-relay circuits. But the telco or cable company has absolutely no obligation to meet any pre-determined data rate, ala Comcast and other forms of trottling (limiting bandwidth to substantially less than the size of the pipe itself).

As a result, there aren't any serious companies/corporations using cable modem or DSL as their major pipe to the public Internet. They can't afford to be pushed around or screwed by the vendors.

Here's a link to a thoroughly written (and very techy) white paper on T-1 circuits: http://www.dcbnet.com/notes/9611t1.html

--- groink

aznkoodies wrote:

Road Runner here in Louisiana. $40/month

Amen! I'm using the same too!
And it's just great!!!!!!

aznkoodies wrote:

Been on cable all my life [home(cable), work(cable), college(T1)]

Hey, at least you have had the privilege!

aznkoodies wrote:

sorry for those damned in the land of 56k...

I was one of them until this past Monday!

Now it's all Road Runner!!!!!!
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ahochaude wrote:

Hey, um, what is a T-1 connection?!

bmwracer wrote:

Simply put, it's a REALLY fast connection that (big) businesses, universities, etc. use... It makes DSL, cable modem, et al, look like dialup....

RedRum wrote:

T1 is not that fast only 1.544 mbps; DSL and Cable can already go faster than that. I think you're thinking of T3, which can go upto 43.232 mbps.

groink wrote:

The only REALLY HUGE difference between frame-relay circuits (ex: T1, T3, etc.) and cable/DSL is one thing that residental customers never hear of: CIR CIR is "carrier information rate". In Laymen's terms, it basically means if I sign onto a contract with the telco for a certain data rate, I'm guaranteed that data rate for the duration of the contract. If at ANY time during the contract period I do not receive that data rate, the telco is penalized in accordance with the contract (usually via either subtracting the billable hours that the data rate wasn't met, or a penalty fee). Did anyone ever sign a CIR contract for DSL or cable modem? Naaaaaaaaaaah! I didn't think so! You only see CIR contracts on T-1, T-3, OC-x, and other frame-relay circuits. As for DSL or cable modem... It probably is faster than most frame-relay circuits. But the telco or cable company has absolutely no obligation to meet any pre-determined data rate, ala Comcast and other forms of trottling (limiting bandwidth to substantially less than the size of the pipe itself). As a result, there aren't any serious companies/corporations using cable modem or DSL as their major pipe to the public Internet. They can't afford to be pushed around or screwed by the vendors. Here's a link to a thoroughly written (and very techy) white paper on T-1 circuits: http://www.dcbnet.com/notes/9611t1.html --- groink

Hey guys, thanks for that explaination on T-1 and T-3 and whatever the hell it is!!!!

I kind of get it.
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