Well said Champagne We have the same view coz we're both married and at this point had a happy and contented life
I'm very, very happy to read your post, Champagne. Well said. Amazingly, what you have wrote is also what I've felt all these while, especially when reading the -ve critics about Takuya and Shizuka. It just hurts me...hehe
I feel exactly the same as both of you, Simone and Champange, and share the same perspective, but I'm still single..hehehe.....
maybe we should drop this discussion regarding Kimura's private life? a bit too much I feel... I remember Kimura mentioning in a mag that he'd rather people to not talk or ask anything regarding his private life...
Anyway... I didn't know Kimura was Pusan for PIFF 2007 till my friend told me yesterday. He would have looked even better if he was clean shaven...
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:01 am Post subject:
Champagne wrote:
shizuka fully understand the danger if she is pregnant, it wa kimura who gave her the assurance that it is ok to get pregnant because they already have the intention to get married and he likes children alot.
But it end up it was only shizuka's fault, strange, dun people knows that it takes 2 to tango?? And is kimura a silly guy who do not know there is this thing call condom? I thinK people really under estimate him.
Every year there is rumours about him and his co-star having affair, he is not in good term with his wife, they are going separately....etc. Reason is simple, this is what his fans want to hear - HE IS LEAVING HIS WIFE.
Their marriage is a miracle to me.
I told my husband one of these days i must come into this forum and pen my thought about their marriage. He laughed and said - women are crazy, what is there so much to talk about , why so much hoo ha about their marriage? wHY his "FANS" hated his wife so much , it is bacause of jealousy? his fans think without his wife, they can be his wife????
I never have these thought, to me kimura is just like a friend who had accompany me in my younger days.
I fully understand those crazy fans' thoughts becasue i was young before. Those crazy thoughts had changed as i grew older. I am happy for him to have a happy home fill with love which he can go to after a hard day work. i am happy that he has a very understanding wife who can share his frustration and anger, i am happy that he has a family whioch motivated him to move forward.
it will be a sad thing when he go back to a empty house after a hard day work.
A happy marriage and family is what we want and is what we will work hard and put in effort to make it happen.
One day his news fans will understand what i means when they grow older and have a family like me.
thank you champagne you took the words right out of my mouth. celebs like kimura and shizuka or anyone for that matter are entitled to happiness and their personal lives is private. i am so happy that my idol has a happy marriage life which is so precious considering how many are divorcing now a days. it is truly amiracle to be thankful for. love is a gamble and so far kimura and shizuka are winning. _________________
maybe we should drop this discussion regarding Kimura's private life? a bit too much I feel... I remember Kimura mentioning in a mag that he'd rather people to not talk or ask anything regarding his private life...
Anyway... I didn't know Kimura was Pusan for PIFF 2007 till my friend told me yesterday. He would have looked even better if he was clean shaven...
Amen to that orenji Let give the Kimura Family some privacy We can discuss any thing under the sun about Takuya and we can love him hate him adore him or even imagine him, we can pair him to all the girls he have love before but lets leave Shizuka,Kokomi & MItzuki alone LetS just do what we use to do forget that Takuya is married TAKUYA KIMURA IS STILL SINGLE _________________
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:05 am Post subject:
fans nowadays are so lucky, they receive news from internet, there is forum for them to share their thoughts, there are so many photos to llok at from teh internet....
how i wish i was born 10 years later like you ladies here.
during my times, there was no such goodies at all.
the very first time i saw smap on tv was 10 years ago in japan, now i see them everyday from the web. they were so green , now they are men.
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject:
oh champagne, you don't even have to go back 10 years. just about 4 years ago there wasn't so much stuff and info available online. whoever created torrents, clubbox, and filesend sites were geniuses _________________
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject:
i hav not read a single post here after i submitted my 1st post because i assumed many of his fans are angry with me , for sure they will throw stones at me.
please bear with me for while, girls can just skip my post , ignore my post or even can delete them. just let me say what is in my mind all these years.
like what my hubby said, i dun have a chance to do it in my younger days that is why i am so crazy now
i work in a japanese firm, there are few young female colleagues (actually not young anymore, about 28 -31 years old) they are crazy fans of kimura san when they were in japan. we used to discuss about him during lunch times. 1 of them cried when he announced his marraige to shizuka, she will say bad things about her infront of me, show me the bad press report they got from japan, she can be so naive and crazy that she put a bad cross on her face, poke her face ..etc. the poster is just right infront of her desk.
she got married 4 years ago and is now pregnant with her 2nd baby. she laughed at herself whenever we brought up this topic to her.
She admitted actually is her jealousy that make her canot accept shizuka. it was never an issue with kimura and kaori together but it was such a BIG ISSUE with shizuka because shizuka was pregnant with kimura's baby means they do make love, kimura actually hugged shizuka in the sleep....etc. whenever she thinks of all these, she just go mad. she cannot accept kimura sleep wiht another woman.......
funny right? maybe this is the reason why so many women hated shizuka.
i do pity her, to be Mrs Kimura is not an easy role, she was not allowed to be seen in the public with her husband, she is not allow to talk about his husband to the press. In 1 of her interview, there was a reporter from HK asked about her husband, she replied in english "Please do not ask about my husband"
I think she can only talk about him or on the stage with him 5 -10 years later when kimura is no longer the super star in japan, by that time his fans should have grow up just like my japanese colleague.
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject:
ha ha, i was really glad that not so many of his fans here throw stones at me.
I was thinking my views will not be welcome here, girls in this forum will ask what is this old lady doing here...?
Imagine a mother of 2 who is going to be her 40 is in this forum talking about kimura
simone, you are married too? good to see another mummy here.
Really thanks this forum which allowed me to pen my thoughts. All these years i rely on my japanese colleagues in singapore and japan to supply me all those news about kimura san. Even my boss will always remember to bring back latest mag about him and his family when he go back to japan. i have so many sealed cartons of mag from hong kong, taiwan and japan and vcd in my storeroom which my husband had been asking me to dispose, i will keep them and show to my children and tell them this is mummy' dream lover...
Anyway thanks for reading my irritating posts, it make my days to post my thoughts here.
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject:
champagne i think you should read some of those posts by other members because some of them really agree with you!
i agree that most fans hate shizuka only because she's his wife. while i don't doubt that some fans just honestly don't like her because of her personality, i feel that it's mostly because of her husband. like i said earlier, even if it were somebody liked by fans like matsu takako or even tu_triky's candidate shingo, if they're involved with kimura romantically fans will start hating them.
i wonder how long shizuka's gonna have to wait for kimura's star to dim.
but on another note, when are we going to get our next smap drama? i know they're all focused on movies but i want them to appear weekly as a new character for 10-12 weeks! i mean, dramas are seriously declining in quality lately so at least give ma smap member to watch. but not kimura, even though i always like his dramas. if i were to rate them in order of who i want to see most in a drama it'll be
1. nakai 2. goro 3. tsuyoshi 4. kimura 5. shingo
nakai's always talking about how he wants to do a drama so he should go out there and get one already! _________________
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:10 pm Post subject:
Champagne wrote:
Really thanks this forum which allowed me to pen my thoughts. All these years i rely on my japanese colleagues in singapore and japan to supply me all those news about kimura san. Even my boss will always remember to bring back latest mag about him and his family when he go back to japan. i have so many sealed cartons of mag from hong kong, taiwan and japan and vcd in my storeroom which my husband had been asking me to dispose, i will keep them and show to my children and tell them this is mummy' dream lover...
uwah, what a nice and generous boss you have! _________________
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject:
people still prefer him with matsu not only because they are paired few times in the dramas. another reason from the men's views because japanese women suppose to be sweet, cute , submissive and man should marry this kind of woman.
shizuka is totally different, she does not have much of a typical japanese woman should have character. she never bother to augue back when the press write bad about her, she do whatever she likes , the press can continue writtng what they like. She dun bother to say whether those stories are right or wrong.
she was always protrayed as the bad girl.
maybe due to her family background, she is the sole breadwinner for her parents, she has built up a strong character.
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:34 pm Post subject:
Champagne wrote:
people still prefer him with matsu not only because they are paired few times in the dramas. another reason from the men's views because japanese women suppose to be sweet, cute , submissive and man should marry this kind of woman.
shizuka is totally different, she does not have much of a typical japanese woman should have character. she never bother to augue back when the press write bad about her, she do whatever she likes , the press can continue writtng what they like. She dun bother to say whether those stories are right or wrong.
she was always protrayed as the bad girl.
maybe due to her family background, she is the sole breadwinner for her parents, she has built up a strong character.
Japanese women are not suppose to be like her.
I think some Takuya fan girls might think that way about Shizuka but I don't think Japanese men do. Kudo Shizuka was the "It" girl in the 80's and early 90's. She was thought of as the ideal dream girl back then as were most Oyanko Club members.
Question for Oyabin: How do typical (non-Smappies) Japanese view Kudo Shizuka? I always thought she had a fairly good reputation. Does she have a bad rep like Matsuda Seiko?
Haha, I don't mean to single Oyabin out but she's the only one here I can think of who was born and raised in Japan.
Champagne, I evny you you have the resources on SMAP news while me I just rely on this forum to keep me updated, I don't have a single magasine to pour out my frustration You are still lucky to have a Japanese boss and friends to pamper you with SMAP items
But we're both lucky to have a husband who doesn't mind us being a late bloomer (I'm already 45 and a diehard SMAP fan also have 3 teen children) _________________
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject:
Yeah,, just finish watching the Ii Tomo Special..
Hmm,, I also prefer they do the Bowling Special, too.. As this's bored,, especially in the middle part,, when the guest are asked to guess who do plastic surgery and whose salary raise up the most for a year time.. LOL,, I almost sleep.. The guy who win the highest salary man is the one who shown up in Utaban with Utada Hikaru as the guest huh?? If I'm not mistaken.. And those woman who did plastic surgery,, hmm,, thatz too over,, ne?? They use that much money just to become prettier?? Oh god.. But I alwayz wonder,, why must man alwayz like to change themselves to a woman?? Hmm,,,
The Ping Pong is exciting though,, haha,, Tamori san is so funny,, and Nakai keep complaining about him,, not really understand what they say.. Oh~~ I wonder why Fukuyama-san din join this game,, he must be very kakkoii in it..
Shooting Part,, reminds me of Goro-chan who did that a year ago,, whoa~~ He's really kakkoii,, have a nice shot ne.. But this time,, only one guy who was able to hit the 200 points.. Zannen ne~~ And I expect that Kou Shibasaki will do better,, demo,, demo,, only 10 points.. Her reactions are funny,, she took off her high heels immediately,, saying that those are spoilers... Ahaha~~ Nakai-kun should do this,,
The last part,, wow,, Ueto Aya is that strong ne.. Haha,, that surprise me.. _________________
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject:
Sankyuu so much Nagisa..
Yeah,, Glad that this thread is so alive now,, itz nearly two years that I join this,, and now itz surpass 1200 pages.. Yatta~~ But too bad SMAP dun have any release this year,, if not,, I think we will have more things to discuss...
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I forgot I missed your birthday Elaine.
Happy very very belated Bday Elaine!
Thank you for keeping this thread alive for the past few years
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:00 pm Post subject:
simone, yes i was really lucky to know smap san when he was still not that big. i came to know about him from my japanese colleagues. They were crazy fans of him, most of our topics is always about kimura san.
We watch him grew from a young boy to a father of 2 now.
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