As you can see, in the events where medals are determined by competitors rather than judges, the gold medal gap between China and the U.S. is greatly narrowed, and the total medal count is an American runaway. Counting the judged events, China has a commanding lead in golds. Hmmm... Nope, nothing fishy about that!
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:47 am Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
From Yahoo! Sports:
The Real 2008 Medal Count
China: 22 gold; 11 silver; 11 bronze
United States: 21 gold; 19 silver; 21 bronze
As you can see, in the events where medals are determined by competitors rather than judges, the gold medal gap between China and the U.S. is greatly narrowed, and the total medal count is an American runaway. Counting the judged events, China has a commanding lead in golds. Hmmm... Nope, nothing fishy about that!
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:02 am Post subject:
krim wrote:
But i think he's a jerk for easing off and gloating before he hit the finish line. Behavior like that belongs in the end zone of a football game, not the olympics.
i must admit i didn't think anything about his behaviour. as the 100m appears to be the glamorous side of athletics i kind of expected it. i find people like lewis hamilton far more offensive for his attitude that the f1 world crown will fall in to his lap.
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:32 am Post subject:
Boxer disqualified for biting Olympic opponent
BEIJING (AP)�\A light heavyweight boxer from Tajikistan was disqualified for biting his opponent on the shoulder during their Olympic quarterfinal bout Tuesday night.
Dzhakhon Kurbanov�fs bout with Kazakhstan�fs Yerkebulan Shynaliyev was stopped with 17 seconds left in the third round when Kurbanov apparently bit Shynaliyev during a clinch.
Shynaliyev, who angrily showed the blood on his shoulder to the referee, led 12-6 at the time. Kurbanov had been warned multiple times for shoving and holding his opponent.
Kurbanov is a 22-year-old fighter who got off to an auspicious start in Beijing last week, beating world champion Abbos Atoev in his first bout. He won the 2005 Asian championships as a middleweight, and was competing in his first Olympics.
Oddly enough, the evening card at Workers�f Gymnasium was watched by Evander Holyfield, who was infamously bitten on the ear by Mike Tyson on June 28, 1997.
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:52 am Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
From Yahoo! Sports:
The Real 2008 Medal Count
China: 22 gold; 11 silver; 11 bronze
United States: 21 gold; 19 silver; 21 bronze
As you can see, in the events where medals are determined by competitors rather than judges, the gold medal gap between China and the U.S. is greatly narrowed, and the total medal count is an American runaway. Counting the judged events, China has a commanding lead in golds. Hmmm... Nope, nothing fishy about that!
The writer for this article is kinda of an idiot. He could make that argument about human subjectivity with many Olympics events. Any sport that involves a referee could be questioned, such as soccer (football), tennis, basketball, etc ... as well.
To me, this is all just a backlash to the underage gymnasts of China ... desperately looking for new ways that the Chinese could have cheated or unfairly won.
The writer for this article is kinda of an idiot. He could make that argument about human subjectivity with many Olympics events. Any sport that involves a referee could be questioned, such as soccer (football), tennis, basketball, etc ... as well.
The point is that the scoring for those sports rely on the players themselves, not on some external, third-party for scoring...
Granted, a bad or missed call could alter the outcome of a close game, but I don't recall any refs shooting treys or busting a 50-yarder for a TD.
The writer for this article is kinda of an idiot. He could make that argument about human subjectivity with many Olympics events. Any sport that involves a referee could be questioned, such as soccer (football), tennis, basketball, etc ... as well.
there's something call "home advantage"
But China is really giving their best and win those medals by their own strength.
watched Softball and Synchronized swimming duet..
as expected the Russia win the synchronized gold medal, Spain silver, Japan bronze.
Australia softball made a few errors at first but lucky recover to defeat Canada 5-3
saw some performances of the gymnastic gala looking forward to the Rhythmic gymnastics _________________
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:22 pm Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
Granted, a bad or missed call could alter the outcome of a close game, but I don't recall any refs shooting treys or busting a 50-yarder for a TD.
Nor do you see judges tight-rope a balance beam, land jumps, or do flips.
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The point is that the scoring for those sports rely on the players themselves, not on some external, third-party for scoring...
Yea, I get that ... but the article seemed less about what's wrong with the judging system and how to fix it, but more about invalidating some of China's golds due to possible home advantage. 2 or 3 gold difference perhaps .... but not anywhere close to the "revised" total.
Granted, a bad or missed call could alter the outcome of a close game, but I don't recall any refs shooting treys or busting a 50-yarder for a TD.
Nor do you see judges tight-rope a balance beam, land jumps, or do flips.
There ya go.
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The point is that the scoring for those sports rely on the players themselves, not on some external, third-party for scoring...
Yea, I get that ... but the article seemed less about what's wrong with the judging system and how to fix it, but more about invalidating some of China's golds due to possible home advantage. 2 or 3 gold difference perhaps .... but not anywhere close to the "revised" total.
There was no way to assess which events were "possibly" biased or not, so the guy made the safest choice and eliminated all judged scoring events from the medal tally...
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:51 am Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
U.S. crushes Australia, 116-85, in men's basketball... Kobe scores 25.
It was always going to be tough for us
I can't wait for Australia vs USA in women's basketball: Should be a much closer match
beem wrote:
100m hurdles favorite Lolo Jones clips the ninth hurdle while leading the race and ends up 7th...
Aussie Sally McLellan got silver in that race. I saw footage last night, you've never seen someone so shocked and excited to get a medal. She never expected to even be in the final
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:16 am Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
A 20-point spread?
LOL.
It's gonna be interesting: I remember in one Olympic match (Athens I think) Australia's Lauren Jackson accidentally grabbed Lisa Leslie's hair while falling and pulled off a hair extension she was wearing Who wears hair extensions to the Olympics?
There's a lot of rivalry there, partly because a lot of the Aussie girls play (or have played) in the WNBA.
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looking forward to the Rhythmic gymnastics
Who wears hair extensions to the Olympics?
