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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:57 pm Post subject:
Just finished the first part of the "making of" vid .srt file. It's only 27 minutes out of 97.5 minutes in the whole video!
The timings aren't perfect, but, except for places where it was really hard to tell where one sentence ended and another began in a longer statement, they are pretty close.
I've got to find a way to simplify the process!
I was constantly editing or adding to the .srt file, then had to save it, then had to switch to the video and select the menu item to select a subtitle file, then open the one I was working on - finally rewind a bit to see if it came out right.
If I could give a command to save, switch, and load it, that would help a lot.
Funny how some things wouldn't work. I'd put stuff in as separate entries and occasionally they would all show up together. Near as I could tell, there must have been some invisible formatting issues because to fix it, I would always manually delete things that caused new lines, then press ENTER to put them in again. The look was identical, but only the ones I redid worked right.
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:07 pm Post subject:
Well, crap, I had done all my work at putting in subtitles with the VLC to play it back and load in the .srt file.
It did have one problem and I assume it is something from the movie file when I first put it together from 3 parts I downloaded. The movie doesn't fill the entire frame - it is sort of put into the upper left corner, though it fills most of the frame.
The text I added seems centered in the whole frame, which makes it off center for the video itself.
Tonight I decided to see if I could get it into iTunes with the subtitles. Not sure the best way to handle that, but I used Handbrake on the Mac to make another copy and told that program to use the .srt file for subtitles. Then I used iTunes to add it to that library.
Well, the video display problem remains and I don't know how to get rid of the blank space. I could accept that, but then I noticed the text didn't show up the same as with VLC. The main problem being anything I put in quotes shows up with some odd charactors in there instead. That is definitely not acceptable! I could take out the quotes, but I'd have to figure out a way to use something else to accomplish the same thing as quotes. Worse, I found that even an apostrophe gets extra crap in place! Don't think it would be practical to eliminate those!
Well, you still get all the info, which is most important, but this just ticks me off.
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:33 pm Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
^ Are the original three parts OK?
Maybe something happened when you joined the three videos together.....?
I don't seem to have the original downloads that I converted a long time ago. All I know is that when I edit the file and load it into VLC, everything is fine. But when I use Handbrake to make a copy of the file and have it include subtitles from the same .srt file, the results are screwed up every time there is a quote mark or apostrophe.
I really don't understand it.
I looked at my edited file for the actual movie and searched for quotes - they are there and when I play the movie in iTunes, they work fine.
I just don't know how I did that back then. Did I use handbrake or did I find some other way of doing it? Just don't know. I have tried to save it out in VLC, but no luck with that getting saved WITH the subtitles. I wish I knew what I forgot!
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:08 am Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
Seems like there's some issue with Handbrake... Is there some option(s) or setting(s) you need to make beforehand?
There are all kinds of settings and I don't remember any details I may have used before. I would assume it must be in the section where you set up the subtitles, but don't recall seeing anything there that would matter. I'll just have to look again and maybe experiment.
It's a hassles because my macbook is over 4 years old and wasn't a fast one even back then so the process takes over an hour to run before I can check results.
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:40 am Post subject:
with regards to the video not filling the full frame.. gotta be some problem with the settings in handbrake.. i never could get that particular program to work properly.. even though it's constantly recommended
could the problem with quotes lie with the font of the subtitles or the format/encoding of the text file? i know sometimes my windows input switches to Canadian French and i start getting weird characters when i type quotes, commas, etc.. don't know how that might relate to handbrake not receiving them properly
you can try testing on a shorter video, or make a shorter sample of the files your working with so you don't have to reencode everything each time you run a test pass
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:23 am Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
I have a PC and I use Avidemux...
If you'd like I could take a swipe at it, but I'll need all the required files.
If I don't figure out something soon, I'd be glad to send you what I have (which is the combined three parts of the "making of" movie as well as the .srt file as far as it goes).
But how do I get it to you?
And if I do figure it out, I'd be glad to send you the results so far.
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:37 am Post subject:
po0t wrote:
with regards to the video not filling the full frame.. gotta be some problem with the settings in handbrake..
could the problem with quotes lie with the font of the subtitles or the format/encoding of the text file? i know sometimes my windows input switches to Canadian French and i start getting weird characters when i type quotes, commas, etc.. don't know how that might relate to handbrake not receiving them properly
The original file I made from the 3 sections found online weren't created by Handbrake (at least I don't think I used that - I only remember following some instructions about combining them) but already doesn't fill the frame. I checked the "First and Last concert" one I downloaded and it does. Both show the same settings in "Info" except for the size. The "good" vid shows 720x360 while the problem one shows 720x480.
Both show a Codec of H.264, AAC
The Handbrake version with subtitles shows a Codec of H.364, AAC, Subtitles
On the subtitles issue, you may have something there, but I'll have to do some checking. I started with an .srt file I downloaded for the Swing Girls movie (so I could edit out the swear words so I could show it in school).
Then I mostly used that one, deleting the statements and replacing them with the translations I got - which were in Word. I remember the quotes used the different appearance for open and closed quotes - not sure about the apostrophe.
Since nothing weird showed up in VLC, I never suspected that. I'll go back and change them and see what happens.
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:33 pm Post subject:
huh.. so the original 3 video files are gone, and all you have is the joined file which is exhibiting non-full-frameness? then i think you're hooped : P(and by extension so are we!) perhaps you can take it into a program like Adobe Premier or some other video editing software and create a new video that frames the actual footage properly.
i'm already forgetting.. but we're talking about the making-of vids for Swing Girls right? i currently have the three parts ripped from my DVD.. 720x480 (4:3).. which matches your resolution. I have a feeling what i mentioned in the previous paragraph might result in a pretty ugly video : P You may need to start fresh on that front.
I've got my DVD rips.. fairly high quality? I could try and make the 3 vids into one.. currently they total to about 3.6GB. Unless someone's got a link to a torrent that's already set up.. i'm only seeing the 27min making of video out there.. streamed versions have terrible quality. racer.. i'd be surprised if you didn't have these vids : P
If I don't figure out something soon, I'd be glad to send you what I have (which is the combined three parts of the "making of" movie as well as the .srt file as far as it goes).
But how do I get it to you?
And if I do figure it out, I'd be glad to send you the results so far.
I just checked my Swing Girls DVDs and the "Making Of" section of disc two is comprised of individuals parts (and maybe shouldn't be joined together?):
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:23 pm Post subject:
Well, as things stand now, all three are in one file and my "timings" are based on that. Of course, I only have the first of the three translated so the other timings have not been even started.
I couldn't find a Handbrake setting to let me just transcode a small section for a test - the video shows as just one long chapter so I can't shorten it that way.
Anyway, I did the whole thing after changing the characters for quotes and apostrophes and it seemed to work.
I went through the whole file, trying to find all of them to change. Hopefully didn't miss any. Right now I've just started transcoding it again. It will take quite awhile. Right now it says 80 minutes, but based on the last time, it will be longer.
I did find some settings that let me change the size of the video, but I suspect that changing that would not just cut out the blank area, but affect the whole thing.
BTW, looking back at when I first made the video from the files I downloaded, it seems to me I had some issues trying to get them to work. It's been way to long to be sure and, at the time, I had no experience with this stuff, but I think I could make the first video work by itself, but not get anything from the others unless I combined them (and I don't recall what instructions I found for that).
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