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Itazura ichiban
Joined: 25 Mar 2004 Posts: 916 Location: SF Bay Area Country: |
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Kijinnmaru
Joined: 29 Jun 2004 Posts: 911 Location: Deus Vult Country: |
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Itazura ichiban wrote: |
Yep, like i said, what this show needs is a beheading! |
They should start with the screenwriter.
I am now officially done with Atsu-hime. I've endured the lack of storyline and plot. I've endured the pacing that rivals the speed of the sun burning out. I've endured every character having the depth of inflatable kiddie pools. But episode 21 reached a new low in wasting time. I was hoping that once Atsu-hime entered the Ooku, the series would grow up, but it simply refuses to rise past an elemetary school level. We are nearly at the halfway point and it's still Hannah Montana-hime. I can already guess what's likely to happen. Atsu-hime reveals her mission to Iesada, winning his trust and heart. He now trusts her judgement and she'll help make political decisions. But hey, it's Atsu-hime who will save Japan with her smile!
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eternalfuture
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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It seems that this thread has been abandoned for quite some time. I am a taiga fan, and I first watched Shinsengumi! After that I watched King of Zipangu, and currently watching Atsu hime (halfway), Toshiie & Matsu (near completion), Fuurin Kazan (early), and Aoi Tokugawa Sandai (early).
Despite all the pros and cons in this thread about Atsu Hime, I actually enjoy it. A good comparison of this series would be against Toshiie & Matsu where the lead role is held by a woman. Although not precisely a "character" taiga, it tells the transformation of a Satsuma girl into a shogun's wife. Other than that, mostly this is about politics. Perhaps this what raise the negative points about the series. Toshiie & Matsu, on the other hand, although have the elements of politics, it was, IMHO, about characters after all, especially Matsu.
I must admit, though, that Atsu hime is not as powerful as Toshiie and Matsu in terms of touching the audiences' emotion. But there were some great scenes, mostly with the Satsuma family. But that's that. Other than that, it changed theme into politics.
While some may think that it is boring because of too much history here, I think that's what a taiga drama has to offer. Romance is merely a backside story. This also applies to Atsu hime. The main theme, however, is changing from one taiga to another. I believe patriotism was the heart of Shinsengumi, a deep character exploration of Oda Nobunaga was the essence of King of Zipangu with the spread of Christianity as a side story. Toshiie and Matsu was mostly about the power of woman in a man's world. I cannot help to think that T&M was mostly about Matsu instead of Toshiie. Military was the side story of it. Now with Atsu Hime, it was actually, IMHO, a politically-themed taiga instead of romance. Although the early episodes were coated with family-theme, it changed once Katsu moved to Edo.
Overall, I think Atsu hime is actually a good taiga. Enjoyable, but not fantastic. As for historical lessons inside, well, that's another reason why I like taiga dramas.
Does anyone happen to know where I can find the english subtitles of taiga dramas? Just the subtitles, not necessarily the entire movie.
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Anime Dad
Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 11363 Location: �I�[�X�g�����A Country: |
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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eternalfuture wrote: | @anime dad
that's where i got atsu-hime. somehow, the uploader stopped uploading (whatever his/her reason is) the series and now i got stuck at ep. 25. subtitles for most taiga are not available too, because most of them have been hardsubbed. |
LOL, that's not where I'm getting it from. A friend is recording it hardsubbed from the TV in the USA and is mailing it to me on DVD
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Anime Dad
Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 11363 Location: �I�[�X�g�����A Country: |
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:44 am Post subject: |
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xploring wrote: | and the lord, Nariakira, was very good too. |
Takahashi Hideki. He's like, the guy you want as your samurai lord, ne? I think he's perfect as Nariakira.
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marspeach
Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 639 Location: Michigan Country: |
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:10 am Post subject: |
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Itazura ichiban wrote: | I am unaware of any woman in Japanese history getting this close to reigning as Shogun or Mikado. I think that this was the attraction of this story for NHK. |
There were empresses very early on in history, actually. They were the exception, but they existed. One thing learned from my Women in Japanese History class. _________________
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xploring
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 2061 Location: Melbourne Country: |
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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I found Atsuhime very easy to watch, flew right through to episode 22 in just a few days. But if I had any expectation to begin with, I think I probably would have been disappointed.
The story when Atsuhime was in Satsuma was very enjoyable. But after that, I don't really understand her motivation for giving up her family and going through all that... To me, the characterisation is lacking, I couldn't really put together her care-free/inquisitive side with her determined side. Perhaps because I am not Japanese? (or well-informed on Japanese history) The story, though slow, is watchable, but I felt there wasn't a lot of substance, or meaningful revelations. Like in the beginning with the character of Zusho(?, the old councillor who fixed Satsuma's finance).
The end of episode 22 was interesting. But reading the summary for the next few episodes, and not feeling particularly drawn to the impending crisis, I am not sure whether I want to continue watching....
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Anime Dad
Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 11363 Location: �I�[�X�g�����A Country: |
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:05 am Post subject: |
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ralphm1999 wrote: | Fumiya kun's mother is in the cast also but I forgot where. |
Yeah, I thought it was her.
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Itazura ichiban
Joined: 25 Mar 2004 Posts: 916 Location: SF Bay Area Country: |
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brad2
Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 851 Location: USA Country: |
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Anime Dad
Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 11363 Location: �I�[�X�g�����A Country: |
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gaijinmark
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 12121 Location: It was fun while it lasted. Country: |
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:23 am Post subject: |
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Anime Dad wrote: | ^ I've finished up to episode 30, but I don't have any more eps to watch until my next batch of discs arrive |
I think they showed ep 39 last week, so you're not that far behind.
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Anime Dad
Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 11363 Location: �I�[�X�g�����A Country: |
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:41 am Post subject: |
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gaijinmark wrote: | I think they showed ep 39 last week, so you're not that far behind. |
Yatta! Ralph's been sending them 10 eps at a time. so it won't be long
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