I just glanced through the unsubbed version (I didn't watch the whole thing, but thought I had a duty to keep up with the discussion) and I have to admit a certain skepticism so far. I'm a pretty harsh critic and kinda anti-fanboy (usually) so I'm often hard on things I expect to like. I definitely want to see the subtitled version to make a better response, but I felt like what I saw was kinda stale. I was kinda disappointed with the other two from Nodame (I can't remember their names Kiyora and Mine)). Also, I'm afraid that Juri may not have the serious acting chops as I saw a few scenes which made me cringe (granted.. they were there in Nodame too, but it wasn't like this) It is very wordy though and I could be missing a lot of it for lack of language context.
It is often true that first episodes are poor representations of the whole - you have to make the basic introductions and establish relationship basics.
Ooh.
You're probably more demanding than most... Thought-provoking stuff would be nice, but if I'm entertained, I'm happy...
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
Ooh.
You're probably more demanding than most... Thought-provoking stuff would be nice, but if I'm entertained, I'm happy...
Haha.. you know what's really funny? I actually really liked the show (as entertaining). I often am critical of things I really enjoy. I guess I'm in kind of a weird mood tonight. I do hope that Kiyora's actress (sorry for not looking it up) brings out something more.. I got the idea from Nodame that she really has some robust chops. I look forward to seeing the series.
I'm fully aware that few shows make it to the sublime category that is beyond reproach (in fact I can't name one - though a few BSG and Futurama episodes have come damn close) and look forward to finding out how the 'progressive' ideas introduced in the series will be explored.
One more episode of "How I Met Your Mother" and then it's time for bed A friend told me to check out the series, so I've been enjoying the first season. I swear.. I haven't seen so much media in my life as I have since I moved up here at the beginning of the year - it's kinda depressing, really. _________________
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Haha.. you know what's really funny? I actually really liked the show (as entertaining). I often am critical of things I really enjoy. I guess I'm in kind of a weird mood tonight. I do hope that Kiyora's actress (sorry for not looking it up) brings out something more.. I got the idea from Nodame that she really has some robust chops. I look forward to seeing the series.
Mizukawa Asami.
I'm curious: what scenes made you cringe in this drama and in Nodame?
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
Mizukawa Asami.
I'm curious: what scenes made you cringe in this drama and in Nodame?
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Oh, not so much of a cringe.. just disappointment at a lost opportunity. I suppose I'm somewhat apt to cringe at mediocrity rather than something truly heinous. I can't really be specific here yet, but I can say that I felt a little too often that things were pretty formulaic and consequently prosaic ;-)
As far as Asami, her character seems really over the top.. in fact, it's the same thing I got from Mine's actor too and the "cute new chick" and really from Juri too - they seem like stereotypes of their characters rather than people. This is not so different from the other Jdrama's I've seem - but each has been able to provide some choice moments that transcend that limitation. To me that's much of what makes them worthwhile in the end.
Once I get English subs, I'll definitely watch it over again in more careful detail and then I'd be happy to try to be more specific _________________
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OMG <<< totally expressed my thoughts for ep1. omg! but i like it! haha. somehow, i feel the difference and the change from other dorama.
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I LIKE THE HOUSE! SO CUTE!!! okok. come back. 5 young actors/actresses together is realli a good idea, at least this time i dun see any old man or old lady and i think this is totally a young adults' drama. ryo is scary... especially during the scene where he kicked the table because it was so quiet and intense durin that scene and suddenly a loud bang. and of cos that last sec when juri kissed masami! AHHH!!! i didnt scream but i did cover my mouth to prevent myself from being too loud! omg!!!
oyes.. do any of you find the starting abit "koizora" or issit onli me?
maybe it's too early to sae.. but ep 1 looks promising...
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:28 pm Post subject:
phlargo wrote:
I can't really be specific here yet, but I can say that I felt a little too often that things were pretty formulaic and consequently prosaic ;-)
As far as Asami, her character seems really over the top.. in fact, it's the same thing I got from Mine's actor too and the "cute new chick" and really from Juri too - they seem like stereotypes of their characters rather than people.
i found some parts a bit disappointing as well (not bad, just could be better), but i think that those parts were probably just the writer (Asano Taeko) impatient to get the story going. jdramas are only 11 episodes long and no luxury of bringing things about subtly.
anyway, as a first episode, it did quite well what is was supposed to do - introduce the characters, their situations, and their relationships, as well as to boost interest and ratings.
Oh, not so much of a cringe.. just disappointment at a lost opportunity. I suppose I'm somewhat apt to cringe at mediocrity rather than something truly heinous. I can't really be specific here yet, but I can say that I felt a little too often that things were pretty formulaic and consequently prosaic ;-)
What about Nodame?
Er, maybe that should be discussed in the Nodame thread...
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:03 am Post subject:
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i found some parts a bit disappointing as well (not bad, just could be better), but i think that those parts were probably just the writer (Asano Taeko) impatient to get the story going. jdramas are only 11 episodes long and no luxury of bringing things about subtly.
anyway, as a first episode, it did quite well what is was supposed to do - introduce the characters, their situations, and their relationships, as well as to boost interest and ratings.
As much as I love this dorama and Juri-chan, I have to agree with you, only reason being that I wanted this to go down in history as a classic!! Hence I am way critical. Since it came out Thursday, I'd already seen it 6 times, I just hope they do not waste the momentum built from what they did on the first ep and keep interest growing, push the character in terms of development, instead of letting it fizzle out....
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:37 am Post subject:
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Only one episode has aired... How can you say whether or not it won't be a classic?
Seriously. I know of plenty of series that started out fantastically and then went down in flames real quick (see: First Kiss, Jodan Janai!, etc.). I wouldn't be tossing around that 'classic' moniker until well into the series.
...which brings to question if we've honestly SEEN any series worth the 'classic' tag these past few years? Off-topic yes, but nevertheless, I think we're due!
Seriously. I know of plenty of series that started out fantastically and then went down in flames real quick (see: First Kiss, Jodan Janai!, etc.).
Agh, Jodan ja Nai!...
I had great expectations for that drama... A real disappointment.
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...which brings to question if we've honestly SEEN any series worth the 'classic' tag these past few years? Off-topic yes, but nevertheless, I think we're due!
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:05 pm Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
Nodame.
Nodame, as a recent classic...absolutely, but I think the Special is even more worthy of the classic designation...
Juri's performance in the SP exceeded her work in the series...when she was at the end of her rope and in despair...you know the scene...That was an amazing moment... _________________
Nodame, as a recent classic...absolutely, but I think the Special was even more worthy of the classic designation...
Juri's performance in the SP exceeded her work in the series...when she was at the end of her rope and in despair...you know the scene...That was an amazing moment...
Thanks much...I was happy to see Shihori in a new drama, and I have the first ep d/loaded already...chance of subs ...slim to none...boo & hoo _________________
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject:
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Nodame, as a recent classic...absolutely, but I think the Special is even more worthy of the classic designation...
Juri's performance in the SP exceeded her work in the series...when she was at the end of her rope and in despair...you know the scene...That was an amazing moment...
I agree with Nodame as a recent classic.. but I disagree with the special's nomination. While really satisfying as a fan, in my opinion the special wasn't nearly as good as the series. _________________
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A friend told me to check out the series, so I've been enjoying the first season. I swear.. I haven't seen so much media in my life as I have since I moved up here at the beginning of the year - it's kinda depressing, really.
<<< totally expressed my thoughts for ep1. omg! but i like it! haha. somehow, i feel the difference and the change from other dorama.
and of cos that last sec when juri kissed masami! AHHH!!! i didnt scream but i did cover my mouth to prevent myself from being too loud! omg!!!
Hence I am way critical. Since it came out Thursday, I'd already seen it 6 times, I just hope they do not waste the momentum built from what they did on the first ep and keep interest growing, push the character in terms of development, instead of letting it fizzle out.... 
