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											 Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:42 pm    Post subject:  | 
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													 	  | jess wrote: | 	 		  
 
haha nino in rl is kinda an otaku hm? Yeah i don't think we'd be able to see a smiley koichi much. I'm glad ryo's character is a more extroverted one this time round xD I'm a little tired of him playing the role of a shy stoic character. HEY i thought ryo-chan's vertically-challenged enough and here comes nino xD | 	  
 
haha xD. Me too. I thought Ryo is short-ish but Nino is just a smurf  
 
I'm looking forward to Ryo's sunny side and Nino being the serious master-minding brother.
 
 
 	  | atskv9 wrote: | 	 		  |  Is it possible that making the youngest sister not blood related was intentional? Sweat I could be missing out on some key facts though... | 	  
 
I think it was noted that the sister is not blood related to the brothers in the novel introduction so knowing that bit of info might be important. Just a guess.. I think it has to do with their mother's background.. I'm not sure Shiizuna's mom (who was murdered too) has any blood relation to the brothers. Yanie-chan, can you please clarify this? The mother seems to be a rather mysterious character... but if its a major spoiler please don't reveal, umm, too much :p[/quote]												 
												
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								yanie_chan
 
  
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											 Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:25 pm    Post subject:  | 
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													Jess!!! Thank you soooooo much for the scans!!!!!!!!     
Hehee... Koichi = no interest, no friends, dark. What a way to describe his character      Koichi in the novel is quite talkative coz he has to explain all the plans and his investigation result of their next target. And he grins when he teases Shizuna, or when their mission is accomplished. So although yes, seem like Koichi have no interest and no friends in the novel, but I don't think he's that dark. He is more serious and mature than his younger siblings though. And most importantly, alot smarter and quick-witted. His younger siblings cannot hide anything from him.
 
tofu, do you read the novel I translated? Shizuna's mother's background is revealed in Chapter 7. So if you patient enough to wait for it to be posted... ^^
 
But seem like there will be more to it... And I know there's something that the older brothers hide from Shizuna too. I noticed that when I was reading a chapter. But it can't be about the fact she's not blood-related, coz she exactly knows her name is Yazaki and not Ariake... but, I dunno maybe it happens later?? xD   There are so many mystery here and there that made me "Huh?" while reading it^^
 
About the intention of making Shizuna character unrelated by blood. Well... I haven't read many chapters enough to know about this, but according to some readers:
 
 
 
Still hoping its not true though, maybe its just the readers' opinion/analysis^^
 
 
But I have another theory... hehe...
 
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													 	  | yanie_chan wrote: | 	 		  
 
 
About the intention of making Shizuna character unrelated by blood. Well... I haven't read many chapters enough to know about this, but according to some readers:
 
 
 
Still hoping its not true though, maybe its just the readers' opinion/analysis^^
 
 
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													 	  | tofuuuuu wrote: | 	 		  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv3Tc5nDPKQ
 
New CM. Narration by Nishikido Ryo. Honestly, it would help if they do another take or two or seven to perfect his narration... 
 
Not as smooth and velvety as Nino. 
 
They are sticking with the David Bowie song!   | 	  
 
 
A translation of what ryo said: "Big brother, Sister was serious. She has fallen in love with our enemy's son."
 
 
lol ryo sounds like he has a sore throat xD HMM i wonder when will they announce the official theme song for the drama. *i hope NEWS gets it*
 
 
First day's shooting went successfully according to nino's jweb  
 
 
And the producer of this drama has said that he would not follow the ending of the novel and that unlike the novel which focused on the brother's plots, this drama would be more focused on the relationship between the characters.												 
												
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													 	  | jess wrote: | 	 		  
 
 
well i think there are two possibilities 
 
1) They aren't related by blood hence it's possible for the brothers to fall in love with the sister. 
 
 
2) They aren't related by blood and since the plot is that the sister falls in love with the murderer/son of the murderer (i'm not very sure which is the correct one), there is a possibility that the sister ends up plotting against the brothers. | 	   hey thankz for the update and the infor amtion aboutthe fact that she isn't related 
 
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													 	  | yanie_chan wrote: | 	 		  Jess!!! Thank you soooooo much for the scans!!!!!!!!    
 
 
 
 
But seem like there will be more to it... And I know there's something that the older brothers hide from Shizuna too. I noticed that when I was reading a chapter. But it can't be about the fact she's not blood-related, coz she exactly knows her name is Yazaki and not Ariake... but, I dunno maybe it happens later?? xD   There are so many mystery here and there that made me "Huh?" while reading it^^
 
 
About the intention of making Shizuna character unrelated by blood. Well... I haven't read many chapters enough to know about this, but according to some readers:
 
 
 
Still hoping its not true though, maybe its just the readers' opinion/analysis^^
 
 
But I have another theory... hehe...
 
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													 	  | tofuuuuu wrote: | 	 		    i hope people won't start saying its a real plot in the story. yanie-chan did mentioned its just based by the readers opinion with no real confirmation.
 
I have faith in Higashino-san not to put such cliches in his work. Hopefully I'm right    | 	  
 
 
HMM i'm not that sure about that since in nino's recent jweb, he mentioned that Higashino-san would be sticking close to the original.												 
												
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											 Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:15 pm    Post subject:  | 
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													 	  | jess wrote: | 	 		  
 
 
HMM i'm not that sure about that since in nino's recent jweb, he mentioned that Higashino-san would be sticking close to the original. | 	  
 
  but have you read the book jess? yanie-chan was saying that it is based on others/some opinion on the book which is still not clear. Unless  Have to keep in mind the opinions are still speculations unless we ourselves have read through the whole book. Writers sometimes tend to leave the mystery of a character to their readers. Each readers will or may have a different perspective on the story. We just have to wait until one of us or any English speaking readers to spoil us by confirming if this is actually true.												 
												
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													 	  | tofuuuuu wrote: | 	 		  
 
  but have you read the book jess? yanie-chan was saying that it is based on others/some opinion on the book which is still not clear. Unless  Have to keep in mind the opinions are still speculations unless we ourselves have read through the whole book. Writers sometimes tend to leave the mystery of a character to their readers. Each readers will or may have a different perspective on the story. We just have to wait until one of us or any English speaking readers to spoil us by confirming if this is actually true. | 	  
 
 
eh? isn't the entire book already out? There shouldn't be any speculations then, would there? Nah i haven't read the book. yanie-chan finished it?  Why would the readers talk about it if it did not happen? the only thing i know is that the director is definitely sticking to the plot of the novel, besides the ending 
 
												 
												
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													 	  | yanie_chan wrote: | 	 		  LOL. Dammit, spoilers... the fonts can still be seen somehow, although I didn't purposely block them xD  And I've only read up to Chapter 19 of 53      This is really not good, let's just stop talking abt this, coz I hate spoilers for something so good like this      But that's really the ending?? Hiksss... I'll hate that. So unfair for them     I still prefer Sorakara's ending.
 
 
Appreciated your explanation, jess^^  So you've finish reading the book? That's why you know everything so clearly ne? Hehe... tofu, yabai... seem like jess is someone who knows abt evrything already here, haha...       | 	  
 
 
@tofuuuu ehhs not much damage done i think, unless you plan to read the novel xDD Because the ending will be changed in the drama xDD 
 
 
haha gomen gomen ^^ nah i've never read the book. i got those stuff off xq and baidu which have well.. everything. alright i shan't say anything else about the plot, don't want to spoil you nor anyone else (including myself, i shall stop reading xDD) It's better to read the novel/wait for the drama and know it yourself xDD DAMNIT why isit taking so long to start airing????? ><><><><												 
												
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