Glad you liked it. The one thing that bothered me was:
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Eri's illness/operation. There is NO WAY they are going to let her die!!! If they had killed off Eri, people would have attacked NHK studios with pitchforks and torches and burned the place down. It would have been like killing off Dorothy in The Wizard of Oz. I really think they could have come up with something better at that point instead of the "serious illness" cliche.
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When I first saw Churasan broadcast before there were any sequels, and I was already familiar with the Japanese penchant to have the saddest possible ending revelling especially in having one of the beloved costars perish, I thought for sure that Eri was going to die.
Especially when Yoko made that statement about having a friend who was so cheerful and died the next day. It was a perfect setup to portray that kind of premonition... the dim lights... the depressed look on everyone's face and the classical music in the background.
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:38 am Post subject:
ralphm1999 wrote:
Maybe my bong was too strong but I thought the interplay between KimuTaku and Takeuchi Yuko qualified to be in the romantic comedy genre.
Haha....I guess it's a matter of opinion (obviously)...when I think romantic comedy I think more of Kekkon Dekinai Otoko, Hana Yori Dango, Densha Otoko, Hotaru no Hikari, Nodame Cantabile, and the like.
It's been a while but I just don't recall such an obvious display of comedy between the main characters in Pride.
Haha....I guess it's a matter of opinion (obviously)...when I think romantic comedy I think more of Kekkon Dekinai Otoko, Hana Yori Dango, Densha Otoko, Hotaru no Hikari, Nodame Cantabile, and the like.
It's been a while but I just don't recall such an obvious display of comedy between the main characters in Pride.
Mebbe Ralph didn't like the pairing... and is therefore calling it comedic? Personally I think Kimutaku and Yuko have the BEST comedy from all the leading women he's been with.
On Topic: I never did get around to watching that first episode of Churasan 2. _________________
Mebbe Ralph didn't like the pairing... and is therefore calling it comedic? Personally I think Kimutaku and Yuko have the BEST comedy from all the leading women he's been with.
On Topic: I never did get around to watching that first episode of Churasan 2.
au contraire, Pride is just about my top jdrama especially the KimuTaku/Yuko pairing. But Kimu/Matsu is a more natural pairing.
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the way Kimu and Yuko danced around their romantic inclinations I felt were quite funny... starting with the punch Kimu got to get Yuko's attention in the first episode.
Of course it was not slapstick which I cannot tolerate... so maybe my version of humor is more subtle than the slapstick aficionados.
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So that means you don't like all those great screwball comedies from the 30's and 40's with Katherine Hepburn, Cary Grant, et al...?
Loved them and still do.
This definition is what I'm referring to:
Main article: slapstick
a type of physical comedy characterized by broad humour, absurd situations, and vigorous, usually violent action. The slapstick comic, more than a mere funnyman or buffoon, must often be an acrobat, a stuntman, and something of a magician—a master of uninhibited action and perfect timing.
http://www.britannica.com/eb/topic-548077/article-9068154
For example "The 3 stooges".
However when I was a kid of around 11, I loved the slapstick antics of the various brother acts like the Marx brothers and Abbot and Costello. I still enjoy the Marx brothers since their slapstick has more humor than violent action. That was when it cost .11 cents for a Saturday matinee and as you went in you got a coupon with a number. Sometime during the afternoon there would be a race on the screen and if your number won you got a game.
But screwball comedies also contain slapstick elements... So you can't generalize and write off all slapstick comedy...
Excerpts from Wiki: While there is no authoritative list of the defining characteristics of the screwball comedy genre, films considered to be definitive of the genre usually feature farcical situations, a combination of slapstick with fast-paced repartee, and a plot involving courtship and marriage or remarriage....
...Screwball comedies also tend to contain ridiculous, farcical situations, such as in Bringing Up Baby, in which a couple must take care of a pet leopard during much of the film. Slapstick elements are also frequently present (such as the numerous pratfalls Henry Fonda takes in The Lady Eve).
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:39 pm Post subject:
Did you guys know that the reason slapstick is called slapstick, is because once upon a time stage comics used a large wooden paddle with a long piece of leather attached to the back.
The comic would swing the large paddle at his partner, and stop just short of actually hitting him. But the piece of leather attached to the back of the paddle (picture a wide belt) would swing forward and hit the back of the paddle, making a very loud slapping sound. (Hence, it was called a "slapstick")To the audience it seemed like -- sounded like -- the comic had really slapped his partner with the paddle.
Slapstick comedy is all very physical, all very fast, very simple, and very very broad. You wouldn't have to understand the language to enjoy a good slapstick performance.
A "Screwball" comedy is a different kettle of fish. That's why they created a new term to describe it. It's fast, and there are elements of physical comedy in it. But it borrows more from farce than slapstick. Screwball comedies are all about situation, snappy patter, and confusion.
Farce... heck, there are dozens of books in any library that'll explain farce better than I ever could.
Want to see where it started? Laurent Tirard's "Moliere" just came out on DVD. Or if you'd rather stick with English, rent "Noises off" 1992. It's farce. It's physical. But it ain't slapstick.
Now... as to "Pride" being a Romantic comedy? I think Ralph's allowed to call it anything he dang well pleases. But to be honest, I think Kimura would be insulted to hear "Pride" being called a comedy. But that's just my guess. _________________
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:56 pm Post subject:
finished Yukan Club.. the ending is ok.. but doesnt feel like a real ending to me.. somethings missing.. probably another SP.. but i had enough.. if there's an SP.. i'll will not watch it..
now for my next drama.. im rewatching Densha Otoko for the 6th time.. just getting myself pump up for Nodame Cantabile SP and Misaki's new drama next year.. _________________
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. I'm going to try to watch Nodame Cantabile though.
