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blender1184



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 5:45 am    Post subject: Details Magazine Article: Gay or Asian? Reply with quote Back to top

I'm not sure if anyone here has seen this, thought I'd put it up and get everyone's opinion on it. Me? I'm sickened, to say the least.

http://www.m3ntalcontraband.com/journal/archives/000554.html
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This is not my webpage by the way.
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neefo



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

i'm not amused. details magazine should apologise for that kinda crap.

this is what makes us asians weak. online petitions are useless. we should firebomb their office.

then again. details, stuff, maxim, fhm are all racist ... they appeal to the frat boy brainless twerps...

i'm going to cancel my subscription.. ahhahahahahha
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

hmm, the blog says: "the april issue of details" ...

Sounds like it was a "April Fools" issue in very poor taste.

Threatening to firebomb is out of line too.

But it wouldn't hurt to call them or write to them and tell them that their attempt "humor" was not appreciated.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Details Responds to AAJA's Call for Apology Over Offensive Feature

(AAJA received the following letter via fax from Details' Editor-in-Chief, Daniel Peres. AAJA sent a letter to Peres in response to the offensive feature "Gay or Asian" which ran in the April issue of Details.)

March 31, 2004

Dear Ms. Cheng and Mr. Kwok,

Thank you for your letter regarding the "Gay or Asian?" piece, which ran in the April issue of Details.

I regret that you were offended by the aforementioned story.

Details is publishing a response, in the May issue, to the overwhelming amount of calls and letters the magazine has received on the offensive nature of this satirical editorial.

It was not our intention for this story to hurt anyone of any race or sexual orientation.

Your comments are appreciated and respected.

Kind regards,

Dan Peres
Editor-in Chief [sic]
Details



Half Ass apology.... even their apology to GLAAD is half assed.
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blender1184



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

neefo wrote:

then again. details, stuff, maxim, fhm are all racist ... they appeal to the frat boy brainless twerps...

i'm going to cancel my subscription.. ahhahahahahha


You ass, you better! *waves fist*

But I'm keeping my subscription to Maxim. hehe
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

blender1184 wrote:


You ass, you better! *waves fist*

But I'm keeping my subscription to Maxim. hehe


meant to be a joke.. so that things don't get too heavy around here.

THE CURSE OF THE ASIAN MAN!!!! sigh............ it never ends does it.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Man, that is a chicken shit apology if I ever saw one! "I regret that you were offended?" Angry Doesn't sound like the so-called Editor-in-Chief was too upset in pissing us off.

Jerkoff.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:
Man, that is a chicken shit apology if I ever saw one! "I regret that you were offended?" Angry Doesn't sound like the so-called Editor-in-Chief was too upset in pissing us off.

Jerkoff.


i signed the petition if that ever helps..... i could remember abercrombie and fitch giving a half ass apology too. I bet the editor-in-chief found it funny. This is one of the reasons there is so much hate in this world.............
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hehe the petition has been going around noated for a few days now. I hope my email won't get spammed for signing it
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

eltinator wrote:
I hope my email won't get spammed for signing it

Won't matter to me. My Bulk Mail folder in Yahoo! Mail is already like a spam landfill... Mad
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

yea i read that crap and signed the petition like a week ago'ish.

haha wut a piece of crap of an apology. its like me slapping you in the face and say, "oh i feel your pain man, sorry. thank you for your weeping and whining."
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:
Man, that is a chicken shit apology if I ever saw one! "I regret that you were offended?" Angry Doesn't sound like the so-called Editor-in-Chief was too upset in pissing us off.

Jerkoff.
how 'bout i regret that i'll have to put my foot up yo a$$!!! You think any chance mcnally (the writer of that piece) will get fired for that? NOT!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

What's sad is these people don't care if they offend us or not, b/c we're not considered to be their main audience.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

blender1184 wrote:
What's sad is these people don't care if they offend us or not, b/c we're not considered to be their main audience.

True that.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

That article was pretty offensive.. although it doesn't take much to write that piece of crap.
and how can that model pose for that crap too?! (not even sure if he knew what he was posing for).
although im not an asian male, it's kind of sick for them to write that.
i'll have to show this article to my Asian American Studies teacher. he'll be SOOOOOOOOooooo pissed, he should be able to stir up some trouble when he sees this (we are actually studying about discrimination against asians right now) Naughty
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

amrayu wrote:
That article was pretty offensive.. although it doesn't take much to write that piece of crap.
and how can that model pose for that crap too?! (not even sure if he knew what he was posing for).
although im not an asian male, it's kind of sick for them to write that.
i'll have to show this article to my Asian American Studies teacher. he'll be SOOOOOOOOooooo pissed, he should be able to stir up some trouble when he sees this (we are actually studying about discrimination against asians right now) Naughty
sounds like a great idea. let us know if we can help with any signatures or anything needed for his a$$ to be fired. Smile

gay or asian, pfffft. like it's our fault we look that damn good!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

What the F***?!! Damn these mother-f***ing white trash to hell!

Americans are so freaking ignorant and stupid. Can't believe such article would even surface. For a country who is so racially-"just", this is so laughable. I guess when they say racially-just, they just mean between white and black.

And can I mention that all this mother-f***ing-sh*t they mentioned are VERY outdated. Who the hell has spikey hair now like that and who the hell puts sunglasses on their head to make a statement? This is not 1996, geez. (not to mention, the "model" they have on the page is dorky, unstylish, and Not-so-good-looking to begin with, to put it politely). Plus, can I just say that Americans are so wrong if they think Asians are unsexy and dorky looking, stereotypes do exist but does not define the who race (if that's true, what would people think of a nation represented by President Bush?) I am sooo pissed off, but it is true, Americans mistreat Asians because we are not their primary audience (they think). However, the truth is, we make the most money in the U.S. and spend the most money in the economy (especially Luxury Goods). Shall we call this Poor Person's Envy?

Not to mention how stupid the general use of Japanese terms and Chinese terms in there. It seems like the writer has just recently obtained his concept of Asian culture from the Last Samurai (or better named Why the Hell is that Samurai White?) and the local crappy Chinese take-out place (no, fortune cookie and takeout food are American bastardization of Chinese food, not the real chinese food, you dumb Bush-mongers can't even afford to eat real Chinese food).

Whew, I think I need to sit down and catch a breath now, do I seem angry?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

amrayu wrote:
i'll have to show this article to my Asian American Studies teacher. he'll be SOOOOOOOOooooo pissed, he should be able to stir up some trouble when he sees this (we are actually studying about discrimination against asians right now) Naughty

Cool. Applaud
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

This is one of the responses to the Details stupidity on the website, it is freaking hilarious. Well done, Wil F., go sarcasm!


April 7, 2004

Details
c/o Daniel Peres, Editor-in-Chief
7 West 34th Street
New York, NY 10001

Dear Daniel:

I want to commend you on the humorous article, entitled, �gAsian or Gay�h in the April 2004 issue. If you folks are open to additional ideas, I would like to submit an idea that could promote the going concern of Details magazine by poking fun at everyone. As an Asian American growing up in the ghettos of New York City, I was exposed to various stereotypes early on. Just wondering? Did Whitney McNally live on my block? Anyway, my ideas, I thought, would make a great monthly series for Details Magazine. I remember a famous comedian once said backstage, �gEqual bashing softens the blow in offensive stereotypical jokes.�h So I came up with this idea: Why not bash everyone? Fuck em all! So Asians and Gays took it up the ass General Tso-style in the April issue. Why stop there? Please continue the bashing. It�fll be fun, don�ft you think? Whitney McNally, and your entire writing staff of Details Magazine should bash every goddamn ethnic group out there.

What�fs in it for me, you ask? Forget about it! My service is free of charge. I�fll be more than thrilled just to see my ideas take form in May�fs issue and the issues thereafter. I can see it now, your mail-boxes filling up with letters of accolades and praise from every ethnic group you�fve bashed, probably just like it is full now, given Whitney�fs creative expose in your April issue. I can�ft imagine why other ethnic groups whether it be Caucasian, Hispanic, or African American, wouldn�ft find this article as funny as I did. Like I said, my ideas could do wonders for your magazine. Just imagine every one of your advertisers calling to place more ads in your magazine. Imagine the increased subscriptions and readership, all because you bashed the hell out of everyone. Here are my ideas to start you off:

(Ideas in parentheses make perfect sense for Details�f advertising dollars. Why not make a pitch to these companies�cjust another brilliant suggestion.)

1. Idea for June 2004 Issue: Refugee or Hispanic? Picture a young Tony Montana look alike, (A.k.a, Scarface), washing dishes at (Johnny Rockets or Papaya) and smoking a Cuban cigar. He�fs wearing a Versace T-shirt that says, �gBanana Boat? Jew Got Da Wrong Guy Mang�h This would be hilarious. Jew ged dee idea? Heh heh. Your (Goya loving and plantain eating) readers would just love this issue.
2. Idea for July 2004 Issue: Uncle Tom or Black? Picture a young African American Rhodes scholar donned in preppy (Ralph Lauren) clothing and trendy (Oliver Peoples) eyewear, standing in front of (Kentucky Fried Chicken or BoJangles or Chick-Fil-a). Next to him on the far right, is a watermelon or sweet potatoes stand. Wow, can you imagine the students at Howard University getting a hold of this issue. May I suggest you getting bigger mailboxes to prepare for the July issue?
3. Idea for May 2004 Issue: Trailer Trash or Caucasian? Picture a white male, Kid Rock look alike, wearing overalls (Osh-by-Gosh, maybe?), chewing on some (bubble gum or maybe tobacco?). He�fs got his middle finger up and pointed to the reader and his other hand is grabbing his crotch. He�fs wearing a bandana (Abercrombie & Fitch, maybe?) wrapped around the head with his unkempt hair revealed underneath. He�fs got (Vans) for sneakers or maybe some old skippies (i.e. Pro-Keds, are they still around? Can you have your fact-check check this?). Wow, can you imagine the advertising dollars you can make in this issue?


I admit my ideas for the above issues could use some of your editing. For that, I leave the creativity to you and your writing staff. Could I suggest that Whitney McNally continue writing the ethnic group bashing series? After all, she�fs done such a wonderful job on us Asians in April. It would be a shame for her just to stop there. Write me in July, and I�fll come up with some additional ideas for the August, September, and October Issues. I was thinking, for August, �gHungry or Hungarian?�h just a play on words. What do you think? Let me know.

Yours Truly,

Wil Y.
Asian American
New York City

P.S. The title of �gGay or Asian�h indicates a mutually exclusive state of being. For your information, one can be gay and Asian at the same time. Why not put in an editorial in May�fs issue indicating this error in judgment. A reworked title could be: Gay and or Asian�cJust another thought. If you agree, I�fll rework the titles above.

cc: Whitney McNally
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:31 pm    Post subject: Yes, a GREAT nation. Reply with quote Back to top

FierceStriker wrote:
What the F***?!! Damn these mother-f***ing white trash to hell!

Americans are so freaking ignorant and stupid. Can't believe such article would even surface.



Hey, FierceStriker -- I like you, but watch the comments on Americans. Don't generalize Americans just because of one magazine piece.

You know, I don't understand the bashing. Other countries have been around for thousands of years; it's only when the U.S. -- a nation that's been around for little less than 300 years old -- that the automobile, and air travel, and computers, television, FREE SPEECH, space exploration, and other great things came about.

So much for a free market system, I guess.

I'm one American who refuses to be embarrassed to be an American.
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