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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

z123_us wrote:
>4GB .... u mean individual files or the size of a disk partition !!!

cause with FAT32 only the C drive is limited to 4GB .. the rest can be whatever... right !!!

4GB file size max for individual files.

The FAT32 4GB file size limit applies to ALL drives formatted using FAT32 not just C.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

4GB file size max for individual files.

The FAT32 4GB file size limit applies to ALL drives formatted using FAT32 not just C.


ok, so it is individual file size, i have never worked with such a big file, so never encountered it. cool, thanks

cause as for drive space, i know that fat32 allows more than 4gb on drives other than C:
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

z123_us wrote:


ok, so it is individual file size, i have never worked with such a big file, so never encountered it. cool, thanks

cause as for drive space, i know that fat32 allows more than 4gb on drives other than C:

The max partition size for any FAT32-formatted drive is 32GB....
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

The max partition size for any FAT32-formatted drive is 32GB....


hmmm , my last computers did not exceed 20gb, so did not see it also, and this one has XP, so NTFS.

just curious, what kindda work r u into, i mean r u into tech/computer stuff n all
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

z123_us wrote:
hmmm , my last computers did not exceed 20gb, so did not see it also, and this one has XP, so NTFS.

just curious, what kindda work r u into, i mean r u into tech/computer stuff n all

Digital Hardware Engineer.

The title sounds better than it actually is. Beaten bleh
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

Digital Hardware Engineer.

The title sounds better than it actually is. Beaten bleh


hehe hehe hehe hold on brother !! is a hard life but is fun thats why !!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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hehe hehe hehe hold on brother !! is a hard life but is fun thats why !!

I guess.

It'd be a whole lot better without management.

But that's for a different thread. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

MAC lovers ... might wanna look at this .. new MAC OS X TIGER .. the latest operating system from apple. i have to say this .. since steve jobs came back on board apple sure as hell has turned around ... ipods, minis, itunes, x4, x5, new OS's .... nice nice !!!

even though for just 5% market share . it is a place to look for interesting new things like before !!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

4GB file size max for individual files.

The FAT32 4GB file size limit applies to ALL drives formatted using FAT32 not just C.


And doesnt fat32 only allow like 40gb or something around that per partition? I remember when I got my 120gb HD and fat32 wouldn't let me split one side into a 80gb partition. Pissed me off so I went to ntsf. Especially with my 250gb, fat32 is pretty much useless.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

FAT32 is a very bad filesystem to use. The only reason it should exists is for compatibility with the 95/98/Me Windows Series.

Unlike NTFS, FAT32 has absolutely no idea of file ownership and access control lists. Hence, in Linux-speak, everyone is root (i.e. Administrator). NTFS is Microsoft's attempts to shift Windows from a single-user OS to a multi-user OS, like Linux. They should have used NTFS years ago. It would have stopped viruses, trojans, worms, and the like from infecting the Windows core.

Of course, if you always surf the net using an Administrator-class account, NTFS's security features won't be able to help you. If you get infected, your whole computer is basically now controlled by the offending program. That is why you should never use an Administrator account for daily use, instead use a Limited User account, and switch to Administrator only when very necessary. This is, and always has been, the standard procedure in UNIX and UNIX-class operating systems.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

z123_us wrote:
MAC lovers ... might wanna look at this .. new MAC OS X TIGER .. the latest operating system from apple. i have to say this .. since steve jobs came back on board apple sure as hell has turned around ... ipods, minis, itunes, x4, x5, new OS's .... nice nice !!!

even though for just 5% market share . it is a place to look for interesting new things like before !!

No Macs. Never ever. bleh
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

eltinator wrote:
And doesnt fat32 only allow like 40gb or something around that per partition

32GB max per partition. I guess no one reads my posts. Puppy Dog Eyes


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

32GB max per partition. I guess no one reads my posts. Puppy Dog Eyes

I do. Big Grin And the 32GB limit for FAT32 is only imposed in Win2K and XP. If you format it under 98 (I believe SE) and ME, it will allow bigger partitions. That's how the external drives are typically formatted.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

dochira wrote:
I do. Big Grin And the 32GB limit for FAT32 is only imposed in Win2K and XP. If you format it under 98 (I believe SE) and ME, it will allow bigger partitions. That's how the external drives are typically formatted.

Do people still use 98SE and ME???


Oh wait, my brother does. bleh Doh!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yup, FAT32 is good for inter OS compatibility. NTFS on Linux is buggy at best but improving and NTFS cannot be read on Macs (if you need to). But MS decided for us that partitions larger than 32GB should be in NTFS and thus removed the option to format it in FAT32.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

dochira wrote:
Yup, FAT32 is good for inter OS compatibility. NTFS on Linux is buggy at best but improving and NTFS cannot be read on Macs (if you need to). But MS decided for us that partitions larger than 32GB should be in NTFS and thus removed the option to format it in FAT32.

Wow, my brother's incredible foresight should be commended...


Yeah, right.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yow, I musta jinxed myself about Win2KSP4 stability: I ran Microsoft Update which included a new version of Windows Installer 3.1 and it promptly hosed my McAfee Antivirus software ("Failed To Load Required Resource DLLs")...

So much for updates being helpful. bleh
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

Do people still use 98SE and ME???


Oh wait, my brother does. bleh Doh!


Hahaha, wow dedicated! rofl rofl rofl
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

No Macs. Never ever. bleh


??????????????? i am windows user also .. but would luv to use a mac also
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:
Yow, I musta jinxed myself about Win2KSP4 stability: I ran Microsoft Update which included a new version of Windows Installer 3.1 and it promptly hosed my McAfee Antivirus software ("Failed To Load Required Resource DLLs")...

So much for updates being helpful. bleh


McAfee, in the corporate world, has been the most unstable AV software that I've used.
-PCM
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