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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Mznatalia wrote:


I have traded with Hanashimi before and can guarantee that all of the things that she sends me are brand new copies and that she didn't make new copies for herself and pass off her old stuff to me. When you send him all of his discs back I would place in a note letting him know that he must keep everything especially the first discs that you sent him because they are not in the condition in which you originally sent him. As Kouseiya stated, this isn't a rent deal and also you didn't agree in your deal with him that these things must work on his equipment or he could call the deal off. His requests are totally unrealistic and instead of wasting your time he should just go and purchase a Philips 542 which plays everything under the sun for $59 bucks.

I know that your work is quality and look forward to more trades with you. Just consider him a learning experience and move forward knowing what to do the next time someone comes to you with outrageous demands!


Thank you for the support.. I just can't believe there are people out there like this.. I guess I do need to change my rules and not be so nice at times. As they say.. what goes around comes around.. and I'm sure someday he will get his.. he will have to answer for his actions.

I've always been happy with our trades and I too look forward to many more.. I'll be in touch.. Thanks again! Mr Green
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:13 pm    Post subject: My worst experience in a transaction ever online Reply with quote Back to top

Hello, I came to this forum because I thought it would be a great source to get some new jdorama to watch. And I met alot of people who sold me great quality dvdrs of the shows. When they said it was A quality video, it was exactly that! (Thanks Eve, Sky and Ja). I had one transaction with a lady by name of Hanashimi aka Angelrptr and at first, I was so happy to get the dvdrs. I had some problems with the DVDrs and I told her about it and she was more than happy to replace them after I send them back. Not a problem, so I did. Then finally when I had some time the next day to go over more thoroughly, I realized that in some episodes, it would freezed, I don't know why. I emailed her and told her that I noticed it in alot of the shows eps and its unwatchable. I also noticed that these "A" videos quality as she stated are not "A" qualities. But, it's no big deal at first because I just wanted to watch the show with my wife. So we skip to the next show , and the same thing happened again. It was unwatchable and annoying so we just stop watching it. I emailed Hanashimi back and she doesn't understand why. She said that after I asked her to burned them on DVD+ instead of DVD- (true), that it was unfair for me to ask for a refund and canceled my 2nd order (which was over $140). I told her I am only asking for a refund and cancelling my 2nd order because I can't watch one entire show without any problems and I think it will happen with the rest of the shows that she will be sending me. Needless to say, I sent them all back (1st package) to her the next day. I don't want her to think I copied them and return back to her and a get a free ride. She got really upset and I tried to explained to her my side of the story too. Then she got kind of rude and I just demanded a full refund for the 1st order and 2nd order! This weekend, I get another email from her telling me that she scanned all the disc and found no error and will send me my 2nd order which I have told her many time to cancel it because I think there will be more problems and I didn't like her "a" quality video because they really are not "a" qualities.

This whole ordeal is really stressing me out so I discussed this with my wife. She said to just take the lost and don't bother with this lady. So, I emailed Hanashimi and told her not to bother again and keep the money if that makes her happy.

Why I posted this here? I just wanted to share this info for all you new buyers. This is a wonderful site with many wonderful people. But just bewared and don't let this happen to you!

David
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

sorry to read what u went through, next time just deal with trading than having money involve or just pay the shipment, thats why i never try to make a profit for my jdramas, i rather trade them with blank cds/dvds or equavalent. i didnt want to go through all that bullsh*t, but thanks for the heads up. be careful in the future, we dunno if this might happen again.

anyway i think this thread should be merge here, http://jdorama.com/viewtopic.2315.0.htm
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

MixxDreamer wrote:
sorry to read what u went through, next time just deal with trading than having money involve or just pay the shipment, thats why i never try to make a profit for my jdramas, i rather trade them with blank cds/dvds or equavalent. i didnt want to go through all that bullsh*t, but thanks for the heads up. be careful in the future, we dunno if this might happen again.

anyway i think this thread should be merge here http://jdorama.com/viewtopic.2315.0.htm


Hi, thanks and sorry to post this here. I didn't know. :-(
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

hey no prob, i learn a lot from reading there Mr Green

seems like the user Hanashimi also posts there, he sounds really upset Sweat
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hanashimi wrote:


Thanks for your input.. he did pay through paypal.. his last reply also stated if I sent any discs back he would just keep sending them back to me.. cause none of them work.. which I really find hard to believe since I trade with so many people here on a regular basis and maybe have a bad dvd here or there.. he's just being unreasonable.. and down out rude.
I would never treat someone this way..

I guess it doesn't pay to be nice sometimes.. Bang Head


I never said none of them work. I said I can't watch one entire episode without any problems (freezing, frozen or stopped).

After talking to my wife about this, she said you can keep the money, so keep it and be happy. Just no more emails please. Thank you!

David
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

MixxDreamer wrote:
hey no prob, i learn a lot from reading there Mr Green

seems like the user Hanashimi also posts there, he sounds really upset Sweat


I didn't even know until you pointed that out. I posted a reply to her there so I hope this is the end of it!

Thanks,
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

My last reply to this topic:

Hanashimi, yes, its a scam-- I got scammed out of $200 from you. Yes, you are not a nice girl!

Enjoy,
David
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yah there is bad traders once in awhile so you got to watch out . For me, I tend to want to trade with traders that I always trade with or with traders who I am not familiar with I will look them up and have a small trade with them first. To see if they are reliable and also to see how their disk quality are. After receiving disks from 1st trade, then I'll go on and set up the 2nd trade. I wouldn't want to set up too many trades at a time. But yah, all us traders have few bad experience once in awhile, especially getting ripped off from people who lied to you about sending their package and keeping your disk. Only happen to me once, and never goign to happen again.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

if you didn't say not all of them work, why didn't you just wait for replacements???

200 dollars? how much did you buy???
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Landrover wrote:
My last reply to this topic:

Hanashimi, yes, its a scam-- I got scammed out of $200 from you. Yes, you are not a nice girl!

Enjoy,
David




David,

First of all.. this has been the worst transaction I've ever had. I have done nothing but bendover
backwards to make you happy. After I completed the first order you tell me your player only works
well with +R's (which even looking at the specs for your player it doesn't even mention +R's) You said
your player has problems with -R's (yet I know for a fact other people here had sent you -R's and had
no problems)
I agree to go out special and buy +R's for you and redo the first order and buy more to complete the 2nd
order. I emailed you letting you know the first part was sent out along with 13 discs from the 2nd
order I was able to finish and I had all the 2nd order done except for 4 dvds. You then tell me that
you checked the first ones and one whole series plus 2 separate discs won't play. I agreed to redo
no problem.. the next day I get another email stating you checked them over again and now none
of them play. In a 3rd email you state (after I questioned it and found it hard to believe when I trade
so much) that there was a problem with all them.. you then state that maybe 1 or 2 discs in a series
doesn't play. I agree for you to send those back to check and replace if any errors..
Second.. you asked for a refund.. I reminded you of all the labor and time I put into these and
the fact it was a special order and I had to go out and buy the +R's special.. so to make it fair on both
sides.. I'd refund but at least take out the cost of the dvds I used for your order (since they won't be
any good to me now) not even considering the time I put into all this and running around to purchase
the +R's special. But no you demanded a full refund.. and the morning after I received the dvds you
went and filed a claim w/paypal not even giving me a chance to resolve or check them. Which even
in the paypal claim you lied.. stating first they weren't as described then saying you revived the package
but it was empty. How could it have been empty if you checked them and returned them.
I am not a dishonest person and anyone here knows that. I think I have done more and above
to make you happy. The point is.. you placed the orders.. you asked for a special request in the dvd
format.. you said if things don't play on your player your computer dvd player will play all. I think you
screwed up asking for +R's (when -R's are the main format for your player) and you don't want to take
responsibility for your mistake! Do I think you were taking advantage of me or scamming me??
YES I do.. I'd like to not think that you would of copied them and sending them back saying they
won't play so you could get something for free.. I did my end of the deal.. even more by agreeing to
redo the -R's to +R's, I did all the work in converting them (93 dvds)from vhs to dvd, checking them for errors
making sure they worked properly before getting to you.. even after you saying there were problems
I myself took the weekend checking each disc for errors.. I even (to make you happy) since you
specified the one series and 2 separate discs redid those.. even though I found no errors on them
and they played fine for me.. now you are trying to turn it around that I'm scamming you.. and
don't even talk about stress.. I've never been so sick this week since you started all this.. I have
a heart condition to begin with and it's not helping it..
I am a person of honor, we had a deal, you requested dvds (a special order) paid for them. I
held up my end of the by providing you with the service. It's not my fault nor responsibility to know
if you player is faulty or not. You have options to play them on your computer or purchase a
Phillips (as I did and many others here that will play anything)
A good friend here compared this like.. you hiring a contractor to paint your house, you
pick the color, decide after they were all done you don't like the color so you don't want to pay
them for their service..
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

oops mispelled a word..
Quote:
stating first they weren't as described then saying you revived the package but it was empty.


revived *should of been received*
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Please see the posts on the review traders thread to get the whole story..

http://www.jdorama.com/viewtopic.2315.780.htm

Also.. not all my dramas were stated as A quality.. we discussed this before and you even told me you understand cause they are coming from old vhs shows..

Please get all your facts straight before making comments..

Thank you!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hanashimi wrote:




David,

First of all.. this has been the worst transaction I've ever had. I have done nothing but bendover
backwards to make you happy. After I completed the first order you tell me your player only works
well with +R's (which even looking at the specs for your player it doesn't even mention +R's) You said
your player has problems with -R's (yet I know for a fact other people here had sent you -R's and had
no problems)
I agree to go out special and buy +R's for you and redo the first order and buy more to complete the 2nd
order. I emailed you letting you know the first part was sent out along with 13 discs from the 2nd
order I was able to finish and I had all the 2nd order done except for 4 dvds. You then tell me that
you checked the first ones and one whole series plus 2 separate discs won't play. I agreed to redo
no problem.. the next day I get another email stating you checked them over again and now none
of them play. In a 3rd email you state (after I questioned it and found it hard to believe when I trade
so much) that there was a problem with all them.. you then state that maybe 1 or 2 discs in a series
doesn't play. I agree for you to send those back to check and replace if any errors..
Second.. you asked for a refund.. I reminded you of all the labor and time I put into these and
the fact it was a special order and I had to go out and buy the +R's special.. so to make it fair on both
sides.. I'd refund but at least take out the cost of the dvds I used for your order (since they won't be
any good to me now) not even considering the time I put into all this and running around to purchase
the +R's special. But no you demanded a full refund.. and the morning after I received the dvds you
went and filed a claim w/paypal not even giving me a chance to resolve or check them. Which even
in the paypal claim you lied.. stating first they weren't as described then saying you revived the package
but it was empty. How could it have been empty if you checked them and returned them.
I am not a dishonest person and anyone here knows that. I think I have done more and above
to make you happy. The point is.. you placed the orders.. you asked for a special request in the dvd
format.. you said if things don't play on your player your computer dvd player will play all. I think you
screwed up asking for +R's (when -R's are the main format for your player) and you don't want to take
responsibility for your mistake! Do I think you were taking advantage of me or scamming me??
YES I do.. I'd like to not think that you would of copied them and sending them back saying they
won't play so you could get something for free.. I did my end of the deal.. even more by agreeing to
redo the -R's to +R's, I did all the work in converting them (93 dvds)from vhs to dvd, checking them for errors
making sure they worked properly before getting to you.. even after you saying there were problems
I myself took the weekend checking each disc for errors.. I even (to make you happy) since you
specified the one series and 2 separate discs redid those.. even though I found no errors on them
and they played fine for me.. now you are trying to turn it around that I'm scamming you.. and
don't even talk about stress.. I've never been so sick this week since you started all this.. I have
a heart condition to begin with and it's not helping it..
I am a person of honor, we had a deal, you requested dvds (a special order) paid for them. I
held up my end of the by providing you with the service. It's not my fault nor responsibility to know
if you player is faulty or not. You have options to play them on your computer or purchase a
Phillips (as I did and many others here that will play anything)
A good friend here compared this like.. you hiring a contractor to paint your house, you
pick the color, decide after they were all done you don't like the color so you don't want to pay
them for their service..


Carole,

Give a rest already. Keep the damn money and shut the mouth up already. I am sure you will get sympathy from some people here. You have your money and I want you to keep those bad dvdrs. I don't need them. I am happy with my dvd player which plays fine . Maybe they just don't like your dvdrs or how you burn them?? don't know, contact Panasonic about it . Geez, keep your money and give it a rest already. I make peace with it and so should you. Whole story, partial story,whatever. You're a good person and good trader, keep believing in that. I am not saying you are a bad person in general, just this buy from you did not work out for me. Ok? What more do I need to say? You have my money, you accused me about scams and whatnot. What more do you want??? Sheesh!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hanashimi wrote:
Please see the posts on the review traders thread to get the whole story..

http://www.jdorama.com/viewtopic.2315.780.htm

Also.. not all my dramas were stated as A quality.. we discussed this before and you even told me you understand cause they are coming from old vhs shows..

Please get all your facts straight before making comments..

Thank you!


Oh my god, this lady is just unbelievable! She has my money already and she is still ranting and going after me here.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Landrover wrote:


Carole,

Give a rest already. Keep the damn money and shut the mouth up already. I am sure you will get sympathy from some people here. You have your money and I want you to keep those bad dvdrs. I don't need them. I am happy with my dvd player which plays fine . Maybe they just don't like your dvdrs or how you burn them?? don't know, contact Panasonic about it . Geez, keep your money and give it a rest already. I make peace with it and so should you. Whole story, partial story,whatever. You're a good person and good trader, keep believing in that. I am not saying you are a bad person in general, just this buy from you did not work out for me. Ok? What more do I need to say? You have my money, you accused me about scams and whatnot. What more do you want??? Sheesh!

David


Don't tell me to shut up! I have a right to defend your lies and accusations you are making of me. I have no reason nor am I looking for sympathy. As a regular here it's my duty to let other members be aware of situations like this. And don't try to turn this around like I'm the bad person here.. like you are doing me a favor saying keeping the money and dvds (which aren't bad) I don't deal that way.. if someone pays for something then they get it.
You are right this didn't work out for you..I guess you have the only dvd player in the whole world that doesn't like my dvds.. when I've traded with tons of people who have no problem. Yet that's why I had to do +R's cause as you told me several times your dvd player is fussy.. If you weren't so selfish in the beginning and tried to work with me we could of had this settled already and that neither of us lost totally.
You are right no need to say anymore.... things will be handled appropriately..
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Landrover wrote:


Oh my god, this lady is just unbelievable! She has my money already and she is still ranting and going after me here.

David


No you are unbelievalbe.. this is an open forum and as being a member and regular here for almost 2 years I have a right to state my side. You make it sound like I scammed you for the money and that is not the case.
I've given you several options to work with..
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

^I have merged Landrover's first thread into this thread. Please be aware that there may be double-posts. Due to the nature of merging, merged posts are sorted by date and time in the new thread.

On another note, since there are 2 sides to the story, I don't want things to be ugly back and forth bickering for several pages. Please attempt to resolve this in a civil manner. If any bickering ensues, I'll have to ask that you both take it to PM or email.

You are still welcome to discuss it here to get your stories out in the open and come to a resolution (if you choose to do so here), but please don't fight in this forum.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hanashimi wrote:


No you are unbelievalbe.. this is an open forum and as being a member and regular here for almost 2 years I have a right to state my side. You make it sound like I scammed you for the money and that is not the case.
I've given you several options to work with..


Who is the bad person? You have my $200 and I don't have a complete series that works. You tell me?!?!?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

KouSeiya315 wrote:
^I have merged Landrover's first thread into this thread. Please be aware that there may be double-posts. Due to the nature of merging, merged posts are sorted by date and time in the new thread.

On another note, since there are 2 sides to the story, I don't want things to be ugly back and forth bickering for several pages. Please attempt to resolve this in a civil manner. If any bickering ensues, I'll have to ask that you both take it to PM or email.

You are still welcome to discuss it here to get your stories out in the open and come to a resolution (if you choose to do so here), but please don't fight in this forum.


Hi, thank you.

I am just airing my side of the story and not looking for a fight. I am still out of $200 and no DVDrs from Carole Eichner that works at all (Just some episodes). She has my $200 and bad mouth me here because she is a member here for over 2 years? Is that really logical or fair? I don't know. But I just want other buyers to be aware of this so called "seller". That is all. Thank you.

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