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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

lizakajang wrote:

ok, i'm sounding stupid. but the one that i got was this 2 cd thingy which is like 1.5 hours long in total i guess. there are no episodes.

what say you. and how come you cry? why the ending not so good?


Actually, i did cry... it's REALLY sad...
Ending? Not gonna give spoilers, but if you're watching this dorama just because of Ryo and not because of the whole dorama itself, then don't expect much from the ending... kinda odd ending...

lizakajang wrote:

you know, it's good that you come to Malaysia for studies because the gov is looking to intensify Malaysia's role as a centre for educational excellence. there is a chance the local u' s will be striving to make themselves 'universiti bertaraf dunia' like UiTM is doing now. but having said that, i think that we first need to have the manpower, the lecturers, the administrative staff, the right syllabus, etc. that's why there are a lot of private colleges coming up, but i figure you're not looking for basic programmes.
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Someone reccomended UKM and UMS, are those 2 in KL? Btw, i'm looking for a full-ride one
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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Someone reccomended UKM and UMS, are those 2 in KL? Btw, i'm looking for a full-ride one


1. i'm into a shige phase, so if anything, i'd buy anything that has shige in it.

2. not so sure about RYO. but i figure that some people say he's good in 1 bucket, er...sorry 1 liter. HOW COME MY CD HAS NO RYO?

3. ok. back to the story about the u's. USM i think you mean? Universiti Sains Malaysia (USM). i think you can surf their websites - i don't want to say the wrong thing, because i'm speculating. Shake Head

so, you wanna do econs, huh? Q : why don't do it in Indonesia? Gadjah Mada, was it? But one day later, if you are working and you want to do part time MBA, especially if you have the extra cash lying around : take the UK or US MBA in Business Management.

better get off this u thing. other people may not like this. Grumble Beat You
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

monta wrote:


Yeah, you're pretty wise ^^
But really, i don't really judge from their personalities since i don't know them well... hahaha and yes i'm quiet subjective... so i tend to just critic them from their performance as a professional not as a human being... hahahahha...

This thread is like a mirror, always believe in you're own pov, though it might sound selfish, then make corrections on yourself after reading other peoples pov. ne?


Shocked Doh! monta, do i sound selfish by forcing my opinions about people down others' throats? hmmmm....sounds that is something i can think about. Shameful Cry
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

lizakajang wrote:


1. i'm into a shige phase, so if anything, i'd buy anything that has shige in it.

2. not so sure about RYO. but i figure that some people say he's good in 1 bucket, er...sorry 1 liter. HOW COME MY CD HAS NO RYO?

3. ok. back to the story about the u's. USM i think you mean? Universiti Sains Malaysia (USM). i think you can surf their websites - i don't want to say the wrong thing, because i'm speculating. Shake Head

so, you wanna do econs, huh? Q : why don't do it in Indonesia? Gadjah Mada, was it? But one day later, if you are working and you want to do part time MBA, especially if you have the extra cash lying around : take the UK or US MBA in Business Management.

better get off this u thing. other people may not like this. Grumble Beat You


O.K. i aslo think we need to stop this uni thing or alse i'll get slapped by bmwracer... ^^

My father is a professor at Gadjah Mada uni ^^ and i know its a great uni,
i just wanna study at KL...

S=Sabah

SHIGEEEE?????
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

lizakajang wrote:


1. i'm into a shige phase, so if anything, i'd buy anything that has shige in it.

2. not so sure about RYO. but i figure that some people say he's good in 1 bucket, er...sorry 1 liter. HOW COME MY CD HAS NO RYO?

3. ok. back to the story about the u's. USM i think you mean? Universiti Sains Malaysia (USM). i think you can surf their websites - i don't want to say the wrong thing, because i'm speculating. Shake Head

so, you wanna do econs, huh? Q : why don't do it in Indonesia? Gadjah Mada, was it? But one day later, if you are working and you want to do part time MBA, especially if you have the extra cash lying around : take the UK or US MBA in Business Management.

better get off this u thing. other people may not like this. Grumble Beat You


O.K. i aslo think we need to stop this uni thing or alse i'll get slapped by bmwracer... ^^

My father is a professor at Gadjah Mada uni ^^ and i know its a great uni,
i just wanna study at KL...

S=Sabah

SHIGEEEE?????

Well i think you got one bucket of tears... -_-" piracy everywhere
And if you happen to see a nude guy covering his thingi with a bucket and he barely looks like ryo... yeah then it must be 1 bucket of tears... piration everywhere
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

HAPPY 22nd BIRTHDAY RYOCHAN!

whether you have decided to look like

or


i will still <3 you nevertheless XD

i wish you all the best in your future endeavours and continue being the shy, caring, poison-tongue kakkoi ryo-chan! Most of all, hope you remain happy Smile Otanjoubi Omedetou ryo!!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I agree about the ending of One Liter of Tears. It was a bit... anticlimactic, I suppose. Sweat A little cheesey, even. But it totally doesn't change the fact that it's an amazing drama. I never cried so much for any movie or TV show in my life.

You really must have bought something else. It's a pretty famous story, so maybe there's a movie version of it? Cuz I think Ryo's in every episode, even the first one... when they're going to take their high school entrance exam...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO RYO!!!! w00t!
hope you have a nice one, and stay sexy, boy (man?)


lizakajang, I think the one you bought was a movie version or just something that the Malaysians just decided to name 1 Litre of Tears. It happens all the time, like suddenly there's a different Meteor Garden and stuff ;sweat: I saw it at Speedy and got all excited before I stopped to actually look at the cover and realised that it wasn't Sawajiri Erika.
You asked me why not Yamapi? Well, I've gone through my Yamapi phase hehe and will probably come to it again since I do go round in circles. But my phases don't mean that I like any of them any less. Once I get obsessed, I usually love them even more even after the obsession is gone hehe
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

hantuwriter wrote:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO RYO!!!! w00t!
hope you have a nice one, and stay sexy, boy (man?)


lizakajang, I think the one you bought was a movie version or just something that the Malaysians just decided to name 1 Litre of Tears. It happens all the time, like suddenly there's a different Meteor Garden and stuff ;sweat: I saw it at Speedy and got all excited before I stopped to actually look at the cover and realised that it wasn't Sawajiri Erika.
You asked me why not Yamapi? Well, I've gone through my Yamapi phase hehe and will probably come to it again since I do go round in circles. But my phases don't mean that I like any of them any less. Once I get obsessed, I usually love them even more even after the obsession is gone hehe



hey, can i ask a stupid question? (lots of stupidity here). ashamed does Yamapi ALWAYS START THE SONG WHETHER THEY SING LIVE OR RECORDED?

i am new - ok - so i don't know, but what I noticed was that the guy was pretty much starting every song i saw on youtube. and that time that he didn't start was when.....hang on....nope.....he has ALWAYS as far as i can remember - been the one to start singing any song where they take turns. why is that when tegoshi and massu have better voices?

And most of the time, shige gets something like the 2nd half of the song, after the chorus - or is that my imagination? Grumble ok, so he's not the greatest singer : but judging from what I read, Mr. Kitigawa's a pretty shrewd and fast-acting man. If he thinks that Shige's not good, he would've taken him out. Shake Head

if the guys are sold as a team, w00t! then there should be at least a couple of songs that ....well, take turns, i guess. Head Scratch

With totally NO disrespect to Yamapi (kind of like Yamapi now), but would NEWS die without him starting a song, or would NEWS die without him, period. I mean, he's pretty much seen as the leader, but Koyama's the one that's helping to keep the team together. Muack

don't get me wrong, i like Yamapi (again), but just wondering - your views?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

well, Yamapi has always been popular in JE, and yes, NEWS probably wouldn't even be alive now if not for him. That was the reason why Yamapi has always been put in the spotlight... he was used to attract more fans to NEWS. Now, maybe they would survive without Yamapi, but they would probably struggle, because, Yamapi fans may not necessarily be NEWS fans. Yamapi is more successful than NEWS itself, as shown by sales of his single. As of now, Yamapi fans are supporting NEWS because he is in NEWS, but out of it, they would only support Yamapi. No Yamapi in NEWS means that their support for NEWS stops. I'm not saying this of all Yamapi fans, just those who support NEWS solely for Yamapi.

Now, the rest of the members can hold their own (I'm excluding Uchi and Ryo from this because they already have their K8 fanbase), but, they are still behind Yamapi in terms of popularity. Using a more ppoluar person to pull in more fans isn't an unfamiliar concept.

One thing about NEWS is they all have different personalities, and different things that they shine in. Each member in NEWS serves his own purpose. And in case you didn't notice, Shige is getting more exposure now. All this because of NEWS popularity, which in turn, was due to Yamapi's popularity.

I don't know what you actually mean by him always starting a song, but Cherish, Akaku and Sayaendou, for example, weren't started by him. Yes, he gets more lines to sing, but, thats expected. You can't attract a person's fans to a group if that person is a mere wallflower. He has the largest number of fans, and fans need to be kept happy, especially if you look at the Japanese mentality that fans always come first. Plus, with a distinctive voice like his, there's no way you could just let him be. And, in a group of 8, its not easy to give everyone individual lines in each and every song.

Yamapi may not look much like a leader since Koyama is the one who talks more, but don't undermine the respect his members have for him. He is the most senior in terms of time in JE and experience and he also works hard.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

hantuwriter wrote:
well, Yamapi has always been popular in JE, and yes, NEWS probably wouldn't even be alive now if not for him. That was the reason why Yamapi has always been put in the spotlight... he was used to attract more fans to NEWS. Now, maybe they would survive without Yamapi, but they would probably struggle, because, Yamapi fans may not necessarily be NEWS fans. Yamapi is more successful than NEWS itself, as shown by sales of his single. As of now, Yamapi fans are supporting NEWS because he is in NEWS, but out of it, they would only support Yamapi. No Yamapi in NEWS means that their support for NEWS stops. I'm not saying this of all Yamapi fans, just those who support NEWS solely for Yamapi.

Now, the rest of the members can hold their own (I'm excluding Uchi and Ryo from this because they already have their K8 fanbase), but, they are still behind Yamapi in terms of popularity. Using a more ppoluar person to pull in more fans isn't an unfamiliar concept.

One thing about NEWS is they all have different personalities, and different things that they shine in. Each member in NEWS serves his own purpose. And in case you didn't notice, Shige is getting more exposure now. All this because of NEWS popularity, which in turn, was due to Yamapi's popularity.

I don't know what you actually mean by him always starting a song, but Cherish, Akaku and Sayaendou, for example, weren't started by him. Yes, he gets more lines to sing, but, thats expected. You can't attract a person's fans to a group if that person is a mere wallflower. He has the largest number of fans, and fans need to be kept happy, especially if you look at the Japanese mentality that fans always come first. Plus, with a distinctive voice like his, there's no way you could just let him be. And, in a group of 8, its not easy to give everyone individual lines in each and every song.

Yamapi may not look much like a leader since Koyama is the one who talks more, but don't undermine the respect his members have for him. He is the most senior in terms of time in JE and experience and he also works hard.


THANK you for your brilliant reply - for it was a very good, very well thought out reply. it's easy to see that you have the facts at your finger tips; cool. i can't even remember all of shige's dramas, and yet i dare call myself a fan! HAH!

Please guide me, o hantuwriter!

by the way, i think that you are right. i wasn't undermining Yamapi, i was asking why he seems to be in the spotlight most. i have to start watching his dramas more. 'sides, i think i like his new buffier more matured look. Please don't stay mad at me. Beat You

Bonk (i gotta learn to stop making maggee mee judgements of people : instant noodles : cooked in 2 minutes flat.) Shameful Cry

oh yes, another btw, i have been watching/listening KKKity's stand up video on youtube. i must say, that Kusano's english is pretty good, judging from the song. In fact, he seems to be pretty comfortable with the language : cool! w00t!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ahha.. did my reply make me look like I was mad?
*reads again*
hmm.. I guess the tone of it does seem like I was angry, ne? ashamed Sorry, I really wasn't. I get a bit carried away when typing Bang Head Sweat

well, at least, we can all now be happy that the other members are also receiving their share of the spotlight *sparkle* Mr Green
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Pi is just more famous b/c he's been in JE much longer than anybody in NewS, he was the TOP Jr. back when NewS wasn't formed yet. And I'm excluding Ryotan from this. Pi has been in JE for 10 years and Ryotan 9 years. When Ryotan was a Jr. he also got a LOT of work but after joining Kanjani8 there was a period when he didn't get a lot of work, but Pi still continued too, more dramas, and then the formation of NewS. That's why Pi is really the glue that holds NewS together, he's attracted a much stronger, larger fanbase b/c his years of experience. Also, like I said, Pi is really the only person I know that never got a period w/o work, each year, he's in a at least ONE drama.
Pi does start the song sometimes, but not all the time, and his voice is most heard, but I think they are getting better at distributing their voices, like in Sayaendou, everyone got a chance to sing for almost the same amount of time, it shows that that each member IS getting their respected position in the group.

re@ to Notti's english, I agree, I think he's very confident in english too, especially if you watch his "She's All Mine" perf. His pronunciation was very crisp and clear. Ryotan mentioned before that Notti watches a lot of hip hop dance videos, maybe he picked the english from there =P
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Omedetou Otanjoubi Ryo-chan!

Just sharing my thoughts..like I guess most fans, I got to know NEWS through YamaPi thus follows he is my favorite in the group but I of course not just liked Pi but fell in love with the whole group Smile Pi may take up most of the spotlight but each member is unique & special as well. And having them together you have an extra special group *sigh* miss NEWS. hope to see them together again, soon Fingers crossed
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mira-chan wrote:
Omedetou Otanjoubi Ryo-chan!

Just sharing my thoughts..like I guess most fans, I got to know NEWS through YamaPi thus follows he is my favorite in the group but I of course not just liked Pi but fell in love with the whole group Smile Pi may take up most of the spotlight but each member is unique & special as well. And having them together you have an extra special group *sigh* miss NEWS. hope to see them together again, soon Fingers crossed


Amen to that!

guys, you know, youtube, right. you can't....download the stuff down can you? like into Windows Media Player or something. you have to subscribe the video right? (or do you?)

Ha ha, i have Cherish playing my head like a broken record.

and yes, hantuwriter, Cherish was started off by smiley MASSU. I'm beginning to be quite impressed with Massu, Yamapi and even Kusano.

one more thing : was just wondering to myself, kind of like funny : everyone knew NEWS since most of them were ...like...kids. so suddenly, they grow up and suddenly they are young men and their looks sort of fill up and their voices will eventually be slightly different compared to their debut (maybe grow deeper), and their gonna have their own styles, etc. It was cute to be cute when you are younger but when you hit your 20s, it's not exactly cute to be 'cute' when you are a guy....maybe like Pi as he 'grows up'.

so, wondering what THAT's gonna be like. Shige's already being noticed more like you guys said, and that's got to be because of NEWS, and that's also because he's acting more, and also because of PI. but whatever it is, he's gonna be filling up his resume and if he works at it, he'd get his dream of singing in a loud voice.

Hmm. what's gonna happen? their fans who grew up with them are also getting older, getting married, etc. Wonder what kind of music NEWS will carry next?

what happens to Johnny's boys, when they are no longer 'cute boys'?
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first of all, Omedetou Otanjoubi Ryota!
kyaa, you're 22 now!! >.<
wishing u all the best in wateva u do! ^^

neway minna-san..u guys kinda have lots of talking in this thread lately ne? Im lost >.< but Its soo good that u guys discussed all this thing cuz at the same time u guys spreading the NewS love!! ^^

hantuwriter - ur answer to something always amazing!! ur so gud at disscussing something ne? ^^

tenshi01 - hai hai!! I agree to what u said bout yamapi in JE! also, not all the time yamapi being the only attention ne? cuz some of the songs, everyone got a chance to sing almost the same amount of time like in Sayaendou, so..like u said, dat shows that each member has got some respected position in the group!! ^^
n for kusano, I think he's pronouce english well!! well, even its not THAT well, but at least he's confidence on saying it just amazed me! yeh, maybe he learned it from watching the hip hop dance videos ne~? Wink lol


anyway, I luv all of them equally..every single of them got their own special thing n what they can do n what they cant do ne..so, I cant judge them to say that I dnt like him because of this or that..I just wish them all the best in wateva they do! hopefully they will come back soon as they can! miss them togetha soo damn much! >.<
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w00t! i'm still amazed at how sometimes shige seems a little lost, but like in the 'cherish' music video, he was shaking his hips with the best of them. he wasn't as flexible as kusano, or even koyama, but ....man...for a guy who is the 'brain', and not the key sex magnet of the group, he can still shake. Sweat Naughty
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tenshi01 wrote:
Pi is just more famous b/c he's been in JE much longer than anybody in NewS, he was the TOP Jr. back when NewS wasn't formed yet. And I'm excluding Ryotan from this. Pi has been in JE for 10 years and Ryotan 9 years. When Ryotan was a Jr. he also got a LOT of work but after joining Kanjani8 there was a period when he didn't get a lot of work, but Pi still continued too, more dramas, and then the formation of NewS. That's why Pi is really the glue that holds NewS together, he's attracted a much stronger, larger fanbase b/c his years of experience. Also, like I said, Pi is really the only person I know that never got a period w/o work, each year, he's in a at least ONE drama.
Pi does start the song sometimes, but not all the time, and his voice is most heard, but I think they are getting better at distributing their voices, like in Sayaendou, everyone got a chance to sing for almost the same amount of time, it shows that that each member IS getting their respected position in the group.

re@ to Notti's english, I agree, I think he's very confident in english too, especially if you watch his "She's All Mine" perf. His pronunciation was very crisp and clear. Ryotan mentioned before that Notti watches a lot of hip hop dance videos, maybe he picked the english from there =P


about kusano's mastery of the english language, YES, well, maybe. actually it sounds like he speaks the language - rather than just listens to it. it takes a lot of practice to pronounce english words, just like learning Japanese or other languages. so, it's like he listens to a lot of English songs and he speaks it as well.

wonder if Shige (who writes about English language classes in uni), wonder if he speaks it well.

NOT THAT IT SHOULD AFFECT HIS ABILITY TO PERFORM, but i'd bet he's gonna be even hotter if he did speak another language....wonder if he wants to learn Malay?
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lizakajang wrote:
w00t! i'm still amazed at how sometimes shige seems a little lost, but like in the 'cherish' music video, he was shaking his hips with the best of them. he wasn't as flexible as kusano, or even koyama, but ....man...for a guy who is the 'brain', and not the key sex magnet of the group, he can still shake. Sweat Naughty


LOL.. you should see Shige move during the Devil or Angel performance on SC In love I don't know if it's on youtube though.
Speaking of which, you asked whether videos could be downloaded from youtube, right? Well, there are ways to download it, but it'll be in a .flv format, which means you either need a player that can play flv's like VLC player, or you need an flv converter to convert it into .avi or .mpeg. The quality of videos downloaded from youtube is very bad, though, so you're better off downloading from the original source.

What happens to Johnny's when they are no longer cute boys? They grow into much loved, good-looking men hehe Well, to me, cuteness isn't just in looks. Actions, words, personality.. all those can be cute too. So, they will still be cute, even when they are no longer boys. I mean, look at Koyama.. he's almost 23. Logically, you wouldn't go 'kawaii!!!!' over a guy that age, but we do. And if he was just a normal guy on the street, I probably wouldn't say that he counts as someone who has a cute face Beaten Looks play a big part, yes, especially when you're just starting off, but when you've already got fans who love you for the person you are, then, it kinda becomes secondary, doesn't it?
When you start off in the entertainment world young, growing older doesn't make much of an impact on popularity. Especially not if you're a Johnny who has had almost all his life shown on TV and been groomed in many areas, so they have something to fall back on. Plus, male artistes normally gain more fans as they grow older, it's females who generally lose out.
Why am I answering this so seriously? Sweat

oh yeah, and I doubt anyone in the right mind would want to learn Malay. I mean, unless you live in a dominantly Malay-speaking country like Malaysia, it's pretty useless, isn't it? It's not like Malay is one of the main languages in the world like English and French, nor is Malaysia a country that holds a lot of economic clout like China and Japan. Gone are the days when it once was the lingua franca...
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Don't you hate how Johnny sometimes disregards talent though??? Like I know popularity is really important(well very very important) but I hate how people with talent don't get a chance to debut or shine *coughs*Ikuta Toma*coughs*

I do notice that Kanjani8 sings live a lot more then NEWS. I've been trying to find NEWS clips where they sing live but I've only found 1 or 2 videos.

Oh I was a K8 fan first and then got I got into NEWS because of ryo and Uchi hehehe so I didn't get into because of Pi..I used to hate how Pi got all the attention in NEWS but I understood why. Pi is like the Tackey from TxT in NEWS. Plus after Pi got all his attention..ryo and uchi got the second most camera time and solo parts..so I was pretty much satisfied. But slowly I came to like NEWS as a group and I got to learn about each and every memeber(especially Shige..it took me ahile to know that he was in NEWS)..Now I love every NEWS member(not really Notti though..I appreciate him..hehehe).
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