Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 203 Location: melbourne Country:
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:20 pm Post subject:
yea... goldenonigiri you are right... ill say some things i dont really mean, like that time me and stef had a "snatching fight" over kusano.... its just a bit of fun....
and if johnnys wanted them to be liked only for talent, they wouldnt portray them like they do...
why do you think half the reason the news boys aren't allowed to date? to keep all the fan girls interested....
anyway i repect your opinion, but maybe you should watch how you word it Littleangel91356
Joined: 25 Sep 2005 Posts: 420 Location: Australia Country:
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:37 pm Post subject:
I agree with Jac. Even JE is biased against the jrs that lack the looks. Everyone is, whether they know it or not. You see something that's easy on the eyes and it's instinct to look at it more. In the case of idols, that subconscious process of selection happens too. And a lot of fans do like a particular idol for their talents.
Of course, there're also fans out there who are shallow and follow idols solely for looks, and go totally overboard, and that's where I completely agree with your point. That kind of behaviour is wrong and totally unaccounted for, and that covers them going crazy when they spot an idol with a girl.
However, Littleangel91356, with the rushing to places where the idols will be, it's a kind of perverse compliment. It shows how much they support the idol, they're just expressing it the wrong way. And, contrary to the way it seems sometimes, there are many fans out there who like discussions just about their talents. But the fact is, most people would be disinclined to write a full essay every time they watch a show or look at a picture. And since they like the idol's looks as well, all that remains is the simpler "wow, he looks so hot!". These long discussions are fun, but many would prefer to talk to close friends about it, not in a forum.
I don't think idols cause the problem, really. It's more like how each individual fan express their support. Some do it right, some don't.
i agreed with Jac too...well so far i've never seen a William Hung(*no offence to william's fan*) in JE...so yup even they are biased with those Jrs who are not good looking...
well Littleangel91356 i have to agree to your essay to a certain extent...
about those possesive fans.. YES! they are childish to think that way~ why can't the older generation like cute JE guys... it's their rights to support whoever they like~
but for those comments that u had mentioned were just for fun! i'm sure they don't mean it~ that's how i felt. when i read the comments i started laughing... i won't see that as immature and stupid...i'll see it as some sense of humor in those comments.. sometimes i'll give such comments too..hmmm... so i'll be one of those stupid fans too? it's a bit unfair to say that~~i never fit into that cartegory as i'll never go stalk them... doing lame thing to them but will just support them, buy their albums, concerts, mags, appreciate their talents... looking at their lovely faces...
if idols do have girlfriends i'll feel happy for them! that's of coz~
and i'll continue to be his fan supporting him! that's so sad that they can't be in relationships just because they are idols...i think it is kinda shallow for some fans to not like the idol just because they are attached...
lame fans sending hate letters or doing lame things just because your fav idol has a girlfriend is childish enough... i seriously think they should go and see a doctor..
like what Ochibi said...It's more like how each individual fan express their support. Some do it right, some don't.
so doesn't mean there's a mad fan and that means all the others are mad too...
ok...
drifting back to NewS stuffs.... well NP forum has a new look!! it looked so sweet! there's a chibi Ryo's pic too~ kawaii~~
Oh well....it was just an innocent photoshoot like you said......some fans go overboard, and some don't. I actually like being on this board, cos for some reason, the posters here seem to be more mature and realistic. Reading the posts here don't drive me crazy like some other forums.
Hm..maybe you should join K8 thread to join the fun. We actually don't care whether they have girlfriends or not. And the comment on that photoshot was just a joke and I was making the same comment like teru for a joke there was no intention to diss both the idol and the model.
I always keep an eye for any intruder who acts like a bimbo in this forum so don't worry as part of the peace keeping force in this forum, I will always try my best to maintain the forum to be free from bimbo or anything immature.
Usually, anything bimbo-ish will receive pm from me.
Ok, back to NewS discussion.....now, Go and post something nice girls to make my moderating job here easier. peace!
Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Posts: 1258 Location: Singapore Country:
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:06 pm Post subject:
Ah Lena what a essay
Hm I think girls are attracted to kakoii guys easily, like "woo, this guy is so cute!!"
But to really like that person as your idol, I believe there need to be a certain talent of this particular person that attracts you.
like great voice, acting, dancing , hosting or a certain charisma...just something to make you really crazy over this idol.
Of coz I do think that there are still people that just look at the face and just love that idol....but it seems weird to me...
such comments given may be for fun but some of the fans really mean it..
And they will just start hating that girl for nothing...the very extreme fans..
I saw this official pic, and I think P is trying to do, " Tegoshi desu" so cutee
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:18 pm Post subject:
Ooh Thanks so much for that clip with ryo slapping kusano
I found it funny and cute at the end
Hmmm, i'm a bit behind on the posts but that essay certainly got me thinking, i don't know but i like the johnnys people on talent and looks ..
Anyone know the name of that drama with suzuki an and ryo (i forgot which NEWS member it was but i'm sure it was ryo). I really want to see if it's out in Australia yet but i don't know the name of it
Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Posts: 1258 Location: Singapore Country:
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:27 pm Post subject:
Evil_Ellie wrote:
Anyone know the name of that drama with suzuki an and ryo (i forgot which NEWS member it was but i'm sure it was ryo). I really want to see if it's out in Australia yet but i don't know the name of it
it's Ganbatte Ikimasshoi..the other guy is uchi but was changed to junno from KAT-TUN after abt 3rd episode...
http://jdorama.com/drama.934.htm
Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 405 Location: Singapore Country:
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:28 pm Post subject:
Evil_Ellie wrote:
Anyone know the name of that drama with suzuki an and ryo (i forgot which NEWS member it was but i'm sure it was ryo). I really want to see if it's out in Australia yet but i don't know the name of it
i think you are refering to Ganbatte Ikimasshoi .. http://jdorama.com/drama.934.htm
the another news menber in the show is uchi...
Joined: 15 Oct 2005 Posts: 327 Location: my room Country:
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:19 pm Post subject:
Littleangel91356 That was tocvhing, no seriously. You're absolutley right. But if a person calls them a true fan, they don't act that way. Because to be a true fan you have to learn to respect the way your idol feels because there's nothing you can do about it. And the girls who do act like that, they could just be joking around, ya know? You're right about the perfomance thingy, you should like your idols not only by their looks. But by their talent, that's why I like Yuya, his voice is so nice
simi thnx so much for the adress, lol. maybe I should send a letter to Tego for my Lit. project... I was thinking of sending one to Avex because I got the address and everything but now I finally found the one was looking for thnx to you. YAY!
I'll upload more for you when I get back from school, kay
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:12 pm Post subject:
Ettoo... That essay.. Well I have nothing else to say than about the looks thing. I dont think ppl like JE ppl just because of their looks, its like the same thing if someone gets attracted to a person just because of his/her looks. Its stupid. I heard of NewS from a japanese friend long ago when NewS had became a group, but I didnt really pay attention to it first. Well when I started to listen other japanese music, and got a little bored of it and tried listening to NewS music before I saw any pics of them, and then started to look for pics and vids where I could get to know them better... Looks isnt even near the most important thing, but im sure it makes us adore a person more. Theres nothing better than a talended and gorgeus idol So to me its totally ok if ppl say that "OMG that pic is just so HOT!!!!!" Cos I do that a lot too Its what they think and what I think so.
Also... I would be very happy if Ryo, Yuya etc got a girlfriend, so I dont like the posessive fans who would ruin their relationships just because they think they own them just cos they are their fans. Its sickening But just like someone said, there might be a minimal chance that you got in to a relationship with an idol, but you shouldnt hope for too much. Daydreaming is totally ok! ^^
I dont know if that made sence, Im a little out right now Dunno whats wrong
Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 3 Location: Germany Country:
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:01 am Post subject:
Aaah~ That essay~~~ I think it's good there are always fans like you who tell their opinion.
And I agree with you mostly.
I think these "crazy fangirls"- they are fans, too... But in another way than you and I. Even if they annoy me and write these really annoying (in my opinion) things about "I own my Idol". They are (different liking) fans, so it's OK. They like their Idol just a way too much and
It's a little bit ruthless, because the Idols are humans like us and I think they wouldn't always be happy to read something like that! But as long as these are only words of the fans and they don't disturb the guys active it's OK. As long as they keep in mind that their beloved Idols are humans like them.
This "childish" love is also a bit of character thing. My friend is a little bit like that too and I can't get what's so great about being selfish, but OK... if they think it's fun to insult a girlfriend their beloved Idol chose.... There must be something great about these girls so the boys choose them.
I really don't understand the fans about that point.
But I'm happy they like the Idols.
And I think if it was only the looking thing they wouldn't be so fan like. You never like a person, when you think he/she acts like you don't like it. So also when they don't realize it I think they like them not only because of their looks You always like more than that!
They are just a little bit 'blind in love' and totally crazy about their Idols XD
And I adore the talents of all Johnnys ^_______^ Compliments!
Well, I want to say thank you for your essay!!!!
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Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 201 Location: United States Country:
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:04 am Post subject:
dark*angel wrote:
i found this clip on youtude. Something like saying each other character. But i dun understand wat they say. can someone translate for mi please ...I also dunno why Ryo sudden hit Kusano...
http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=ta9F2SbgcBw&search=ryo
omg it's been forever since i posted.. but ok so i love this clip!! and this is basically what's happening... so the news members are talking about the characteristics of each other. and...
Kusano: ryo chan is usually kinda quiet and acts cool.. i mean don't you think you're cool?
Ryo-chan: i have no idea what you're talking about.
Kusano: but well... he's pretty shy and like on tv he doesn't really say anything. like right now... he's not even looking at the camera. and when he goes in front of huge crowds...
----- RYO SLAPS KUSANO!! (lmao)-----
and then the news guys come to a conclusion that ryo chan is actually very violent. hahahah
so there ya go! haha o i love these guys.
but anyways... i just wanna say WELCOME ALL NEWBIES! i'm rain, and i'm japanese but i live in the states. i LOVE kusano but i love every single one of the NEWS guys. i hope you guys enjoy your stay here!
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:08 am Post subject:
Quote:
Kusano: ryo chan is usually kinda quiet and acts cool.. i mean don't you think you're cool?
Ryo-chan: i have no idea what you're talking about.
Kusano: but well... he's pretty shy and like on tv he doesn't really say anything. like right now... he's not even looking at the camera. and when he goes in front of huge crowds...
----- RYO SLAPS KUSANO!! (lmao)-----
and then the news guys come to a conclusion that ryo chan is actually very violent. hahahah
XD Thank you for the translation.
Hahaa~~~ It's even funnier when you understand what they are saying
But it would be interesting what Kusano would have said if Ryo didn't slap him
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:11 am Post subject:
CenturyLover wrote:
Ettoo... That essay.. Well I have nothing else to say than about the looks thing. I dont think ppl like JE ppl just because of their looks, its like the same thing if someone gets attracted to a person just because of his/her looks. Its stupid. I heard of NewS from a japanese friend long ago when NewS had became a group, but I didnt really pay attention to it first. Well when I started to listen other japanese music, and got a little bored of it and tried listening to NewS music before I saw any pics of them, and then started to look for pics and vids where I could get to know them better... Looks isnt even near the most important thing, but im sure it makes us adore a person more. Theres nothing better than a talended and gorgeus idol So to me its totally ok if ppl say that "OMG that pic is just so HOT!!!!!" Cos I do that a lot too Its what they think and what I think so.
Also... I would be very happy if Ryo, Yuya etc got a girlfriend, so I dont like the posessive fans who would ruin their relationships just because they think they own them just cos they are their fans. Its sickening But just like someone said, there might be a minimal chance that you got in to a relationship with an idol, but you shouldnt hope for too much. Daydreaming is totally ok! ^^
I dont know if that made sence, Im a little out right now Dunno whats wrong
Miru I totally agree with you ! I'd be happy if Yuya were to get a girlfriend, and plus there's nothing I could do about it.
Just like you, I heard their songs before I even saw them. I was at my friend Kelly's house and I was looking through all her songs on her comp. I saw this thing that said NewS and clicked on it, "Wow Kelly, I never knew you listenend to NewS. I was just about to d/l one of their songs before I came here." And so I listened to the song (it was the remix to Cherish) and right away I said, "Kelly I love this song!! GIVE IT TO ME!" Lol, it's funny looking back at it now , but that's how I got into NewS. When I got home I d/l the p/v to Cherish, that was the first time I saw them. To tell you guys the truth...When I first saw NewS I was laughing me head off . In my head I was like, "Ew, why are they wearing girly pink gloves? And who's their choreographer!?~He must have problems" But after a while I started noticing their looks... so looks isn't everything. It took me a while to notice it .
rain90 wrote:
omg it's been forever since i posted.. but ok so i love this clip!! and this is basically what's happening... so the news members are talking about the characteristics of each other. and...
Kusano: ryo chan is usually kinda quiet and acts cool.. i mean don't you think you're cool?
Ryo-chan: i have no idea what you're talking about.
Kusano: but well... he's pretty shy and like on tv he doesn't really say anything. like right now... he's not even looking at the camera. and when he goes in front of huge crowds...
----- RYO SLAPS KUSANO!! (lmao)-----
and then the news guys come to a conclusion that ryo chan is actually very violent. hahahah
so there ya go! haha o i love these guys.
but anyways... i just wanna say WELCOME ALL NEWBIES! i'm rain, and i'm japanese but i live in the states. i LOVE kusano but i love every single one of the NEWS guys. i hope you guys enjoy your stay here!
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