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kokuou
Joined: 04 Jun 2004 Posts: 506 Location: Canada Country: |
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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chiba wrote: |
owh..got it! so its like an informal words used in conversations!thanks |
They're not really informal words, per se.
You hear them a lot in informal speech, but they can also appear in more formal conversations, albeit some more than others.
They're an extensive class of words, called �[�Ԍ� (gitaigo) and �[���� (giongo), that describe a state or sound, respectively.
For example, �p�N�p�N�H�ׂ� (pakupaku taberu) is the sound of someone eating, whereas �ʂ�ʂ� (nurunuru) describes something that is slimy.
These are some of the hardest words to master in Japanese, but with a little diligence and a lot of practice, you can get the most common ones (and even some of the stranger ones) down!
HTH,
������ _________________
"I like the word 'indolence'. It makes my laziness seem classy."
-Bern Williams
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chiba
Joined: 24 Nov 2006 Posts: 1367 Location: North, East, West, South Country: |
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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kokuou wrote: |
They're not really informal words, per se.
You hear them a lot in informal speech, but they can also appear in more formal conversations, albeit some more than others.
They're an extensive class of words, called �[�Ԍ� (gitaigo) and �[���� (giongo), that describe a state or sound, respectively.
For example, �p�N�p�N�H�ׂ� (pakupaku taberu) is the sound of someone eating, whereas �ʂ�ʂ� (nurunuru) describes something that is slimy.
These are some of the hardest words to master in Japanese, but with a little diligence and a lot of practice, you can get the most common ones (and even some of the stranger ones) down!
HTH,
������ |
Thanks for the explaination _________________
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Wynter
Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 19307 Location: Musa's Pocket Country: |
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:10 am Post subject: |
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chiba wrote: |
Its ohayossu..it means good morning same like ohayou (gozaimasu).
Found this article : There are men in Nagoya who will answer when jogging, "Ohayossu!" as a contraction of Ohayo Gozaimasu that he reports the Japanese ear hears as more polite than Osu but less polite than "Ohayou."
Ohayossu - more athlethic, male exspressions |
Ahhhhh okies. Thanks chiba, enna, and A-Oyaji. _________________
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suika_suki
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 45 Location: Australia, Sydney Country: |
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chiba
Joined: 24 Nov 2006 Posts: 1367 Location: North, East, West, South Country: |
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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suika_suki wrote: | "kimoi no ni kawaii" what's "no ni" from that sentence means?
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IMHO, noni - though/although
so, the sentence= " unpleasant although it is beautiful" or something like that..my english is bad so, please bare with me
**calling for help!!anyone? _________________
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Anime Dad
Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 11363 Location: �I�[�X�g�����A Country: |
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Wynter wrote: |
Ahhhhh okies. Thanks chiba, enna, and A-Oyaji. |
Yeah thanks chiba-chan, that's a new one on me
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suika_suki
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 45 Location: Australia, Sydney Country: |
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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chiba wrote: |
IMHO, noni - though/although
so, the sentence= " unpleasant although it is beautiful" or something like that..my english is bad so, please bare with me
**calling for help!!anyone? |
your english is good ^^ and thanx for the translation^^
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chiba
Joined: 24 Nov 2006 Posts: 1367 Location: North, East, West, South Country: |
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Anime Dad wrote: |
Yeah thanks chiba-chan, that's a new one on me |
wynsensei wrote: | Ahhhhh okies. Thanks chiba, enna, and A-Oyaji. :victory!: |
dou itashimashite!! i'm in the process of learning to..learning together like this is better!! keep our brain works better!!
suika_suki wrote: | your english is good ^^ and thanx for the translation^^ |
youre welcome!!still learning hope that translation is correct _________________
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gaijinmark
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 12121 Location: It was fun while it lasted. Country: |
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�P���B��
Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 155 Location: Australia Country: |
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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shiroi_tora wrote: | When is �� used in an english sentence?? |
�� is a possessive particle. Like in english:
"It's your apple" => "Anato no ringo". "your" has been replaced by "no".
The personal pronoun that is right before the "no"-particle is the person who posseses the object in the phrase.
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�P���B��
Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 155 Location: Australia Country: |
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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gaijinmark wrote: | What (if any) pronunciation is used for this character: �� I know it's used for products, but I have no idea what it's called and it's driving me crazy!!! |
I'm afraid that's not even a character. Just enter it in google and you won't even get any results.
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gaijinmark
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 12121 Location: It was fun while it lasted. Country: |
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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�P���B�� wrote: |
I'm afraid that's not even a character. Just enter it in google and you won't even get any results. |
If it ain't a character, they sure do use it a lot in Japan. Here's an example from a Yahoo! Japan auction: Quote: | �����ꂼ��꒷��Z������܂��̂Ń����N����悭���ǂ݂ɂȂ育���g�Ŕ��f���Ă������� |
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�P���B��
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gaijinmark
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Keps
Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Posts: 2034 Location: United Kingdom Country: |
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:34 am Post subject: |
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kokuou wrote: |
They're an extensive class of words, called �[�Ԍ� (gitaigo) and �[���� (giongo), that describe a state or sound, respectively.
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Am I right in thinking the above words refer to the many "sound effects" etc used in manga?
Ones I see a lot are �h�T (dosa)�@= sound of a body falling down.
�h�� (don) = bang.
�s�|�@(pipo) = beep.
Apologies if the above examples are not right.
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kokuou
Joined: 04 Jun 2004 Posts: 506 Location: Canada Country: |
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kokuou
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gaijinmark
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 12121 Location: It was fun while it lasted. Country: |
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:10 am Post subject: |
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kokuou wrote: |
�� is a character used, like someone said above, an asterisk.
It's usually to get the reader's attention to let them know that the following sentence is important.
It comes from the character �K, meaning "necessary."
If you want to type it, you use ���� (kome), because it looks like ��.
The more you know ���~
HTH,
������ |
Arigato kokuou!!! That's been driving me nuts for the longest time! I figured if you didn't know it, no one would!Thanks, again!
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Keps
Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Posts: 2034 Location: United Kingdom Country: |
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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kokuou wrote: |
�s���|���I (Ding Ding!)
Hehehe... sorry, I couldn't resist.
But yeah, you're exactly right.
Although, DOSA isn't specifically for the sound of a falling body; anything heavy that makes a loud "THUMP!" can be expressed using it.
HTH,
������ |
Thanks Kokuou. Lol, I've just seen a heck of a lot of falling bodies in the manga I've read. That's where I get that connection from.
I like horror manga, so it figures.
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