I am working working and working my ass so I can lay me tired ass one day in a nice cutie house in Japan...Uhk uhk Maybe I yell too hard

hope you ppl can help me on these two debate topics:

TV does more harm than good.
Exams should be abolished.

agree? disagree?
give me your p.o.v pls. I'd like to hear from the supporters, the protesters and the experienced.

TQ

gnim wrote:

hope you ppl can help me on these two debate topics: TV does more harm than good. Exams should be abolished. agree? disagree? give me your p.o.v pls. I'd like to hear from the supporters, the protesters and the experienced. TQ

Like pretty much everything and anything, TV does more harm than good if only you abuse it.
(1 possible example: If you rely on TV to "babysit" and teach "morale" to your children because you're too lazy to do so yourself)

Exams should not be abolished because how else will you be able to "test" your skills? More or less, to see what you've learned and how you grew in the particular area being tested.

ahochaude wrote:

Like pretty much everything and anything, TV does more harm than good if only you abuse it. (1 possible example: If you rely on TV to "babysit" and teach "morale" to your children because you're too lazy to do so yourself) Exams should not be abolished because how else will you be able to "test" your skills? More or less, to see what you've learned and how you grew in the particular area being tested.

I'm with Aho on this:

If you spend time watching crap like Survivor and other mentally-challenged reality-based shows, then it's a waste of your time and you'll grow up to be a house plant.

As much as I hated exams in school, they're a necessary evil. I don't think exams that force you to memorize tiny facts really help you in the long run (especially in college)... I believe that open-book exams which test your analytical abilities contribute much more to the learning process...

gnim wrote:

hope you ppl can help me on these two debate topics: TV does more harm than good. Exams should be abolished. agree? disagree?

TV does more harm than good - Agree, however it depends on how you define "harm". I think the most important thing for people is to socialize and communicate in-person. I categorize TV with e-mail, the web, and any other medium that develops a person into a state where he is incapable of socializing with others outside of his home. I think a lot of technical people have this problem, and I see it a lot on on-line chat rooms and message boards. slashdot-org is a perfect example... Lot of people on there have short fuses, and are quick to flame others. If these people communicate the SAME way at their workplace or at a social event, they're going to find themselves in a dark alley with stab wounds in the back.

Exams should be abolished - Hell ya!!!! I hate exams! Aside from what you're being examed on, taking exams is a skill in itself. People who are good at memorizing things, or are able to write good answers to essay questions are usually good at taking exams. It doesn't mean they know the material, it just means they're good at taking exams.

Exams create two problems... First, people who are excellent at taking exams may not be qualified to be an authority at whatever they're being examed on. Second, people who are great at whatever subject it is may not actually be great at taking exams. Taking exams is a snapshot of a person. The person could have a bad headache, broke up with a loved one, or just about anything that isn't related to the exam's subject matter. If he took the exam the next day, the results could be entirely different.

Perfect example is IT certifications... Certifications like MCSE, CNE, CCNA, etc. is losing credibility because of the methodology used when issuing these exams. The questions given in these exams are in themselves problematic... People who know English as a second language will have a problem, or people who have 10-plus years experience will have a problem. However, if you spend a full week cramming with books like Exam Cram and the dozen or so web sites that have the question pools, you're almost guaranteed a passing score (I should know - I passed my MCSE 2000 with only five total errors out of all seven exams). The ONLY certification that has credibility is Cisco's CCIE, which is what I have... It costs $10,000 for the package (room/board, labs, travel, etc.) And, pass/fail is based in a lab environment, where you are given some challenges you must solve in a given amount of time. Creativity, rational and reasoning skills are heavily utilized in a lab situation, much much different from just a plain old exam.

If I had to choose the TYPE of exam, I'd choose essay-style exams or lab-style exams.

--- groink

niko2x wrote:

I had the same thing happen to me last fall, sorry to hear that. did you make a police report? always make one. after my cd player was stolen (for the 2nd time) I gt smart and called the cops. They recovered my cd player 2 days later.

arnel98 wrote:

Two yrs ago, a friend of mine got his car's rim/tires stolen twice in the span of 6 months and also the cdplayer the second time. Broke the windshield to get the cd and used hollowblocks in place of the tires. Didnt recover any of it. That's like more than $2k lost right there. .

man some ppl sukk!!!
especially in LA...

hey arnel u an nfl fan? did ya see the rams loose to the panters!?! HAH! that was an exciting game! ..anyway my teams aren't in it either (dolphins) but i like the patriots so that's cool at leat they're in it!

200 bucks SAYS THE PATRIOTS TAKE IT!!

lovelessemotion wrote:

man some ppl sukk!!! especially in LA... hey arnel u an nfl fan? did ya see the rams loose to the panters!?! HAH! that was an exciting game! ..anyway my teams aren't in it either (dolphins) but i like the patriots so that's cool at leat they're in it! 200 bucks SAYS THE PATRIOTS TAKE IT!!

yup, nfl fan here but missed the rams/panthers game though
PATRIOTS definitely!!!
_________________

Quote:

hahaha.... that's funny...but i say just go for it... what've u got to loose ? nothing i bet.... hey man what college are u going to?.. u should go to mt.sac.. total ASIAN college man!... its like heaven walking around campus!.. if ur into asian chicks you've got to got there i've met 3 of my ex GFs there..all chinese! hot stuff man...hot stuff...

jeeez man what're you thinking quoting my crazy self like that?? anyways on some extremely sad news i don't think i'll ever be more than friends with her... i tell her i really like her etc. etc. she just says it's unhealthy go find someone else etc. which sounds really funny to me right about now... so let's hope i recover and find someone else (plzzz god make her asian ) that i like as much as her. Sounds like everyone else is having good fortune in the relationship dept. so continued prosperity everyone! YO Niko!! thanks for savin all the pics, i feel honored. I thought you would scroll over mine like, "this guy? wtf? screw him..." feels good to belong SOMEWHERE... is it just me or does genma look totally frickin sweet in that suit?

TV doing harm is a subjective thing. My personal belif is that reality TV does alot of harm. But there are also knowledge programs that you can learn stuff from and those are pretty good. Not that I actually watch TV at all nowdays it's just another piece of furniture.

But it's also a different between tv nowdays and TV when i was younger. Then I was younger there was alot more of the information based programs. But nowdays it's all reality shows. I dont udnerstand how anyoen can like that crap honestly.

Exams are kinda of a necessary evil. The good things about them is that you can just take the exam and those pass. So if you already knwos the subject you dont need to spend meaningless time in a schoolroom hearing stuff you already knew..

I don't know how it's like in other countries, but in Germany there are from 11.00h - 16.00h only reality shows (they harm badly) and the rest of the program isn't funny too. That's why I do not really often watch TV.

Exams are necessary but they suck. In about three months I must pass a few exams and I'm a little bit afraid. Hope, it will be good.

exam should not be abolished for sure... it is important! , the education system MUST be improved.. the system should not be exam-oriented...
we must include other activities such as class activities as part of the exam.. let say 50% written exam and 50% is the mark for other activities... so that we can identified students who are well verse in term of academic & school activities. so the point here is the exam should not be abolished but should be improved

for the tv ... it is subjective.. if you are watching discovery channel, animal planet or education channel then it is good because there are soooo many knowledge in it. but I think now, most of the people are more into entertainment.. so the tv sure bring harm more than good..
the parents should control their children entertainment is entertainment study is study so if you are balancing this two things so ... no problem!

that's all.. sorry for the imperfect english

genma is the best looking guy out of all of us here ....i think ....(i told that to kook)... *so jelous*

i dun think any 1 gets an easy ride in relationships....it's not like in j-dramas..wher every1 ends up together walking hand in hand... lalalalala...(except beautiful life ...*spoiler* where kyoko DIES!!!)

BTW where do ya to college? if ya like asian gals...go to mnt. san antonio college in walnut (Mt. SAC) lots of beautiful women there!..and ranked #1 in soCAL by playboy for 'best looking women' in 1999 i go there... u should consider it man! i met my last 3 ex gfs there...such a good school!

and as for that girl....man! u can win her over if ya try its not that hard if u try dude!...once ur friends its easy to get it going....!!! its meeting them and finding times to hang out that's the hard part! (i've been working on a girl for almost a year know!....and she still won't go 'hang out' with me! kind of annoying really..)

Guys...come down to Singapore if you wanna find some nice chics! hehehe!

Btw, yeah...i thought Genma was HOT in that suit!!!

I'd love to visit most any asian country takuya I just love asia in general...
Anyways loveless the problem is I'm working right now i don't have time for college or really any requisites really because i took the profficiency test and dropped out of highschool so all i have is something equivalent to a highschool diploma... best bet is community college i suppose.
I live up here in malibu and she goes to school at UCI along with her boyfriend ( ) so right now i'm looking at seeing her maybe once a month because i don't have a car or license right now (at least a month till my license) PLUS as i've said she says i need to get over her and i think i agree... for now... i really won't meet a girl as great as her anytime soon so i guess i'm just waiting for them to break up eh? (horrible horrible thought i know) so there ya go! you really hit the nail on head with that life is way different than drama though... sad really

wow! thnx ppl! you've been such great help!

takuya_angel wrote:

Guys...come down to Singapore if you wanna find some nice chics! hehehe!

lol ok.... i hear the beautiful kook and takuya_angel are from there..... so ..hmmm....

hey baroobawhatever... mt. sac is a community college bud...

and finaly yes genma is soooo hot! *swoon*... HE'S SO HOT ....HE'S SO HOT HE BLOWS MY MIND..

I can't stand Ashton Kutcher.

Thank you for your time.

Ja na.

kndy

baroo & loveless - But seriously guys... if y'all are over here, you guys could hook up in a snap. Perhaps, most of us here prefer foreigners to locals as well. They're more charismatic & outgoing i guess. And yeah, pls call me if u're ever coming down!!

kndy - Hahaha! Aww...i love Ashton! Punk'd ROCKS!!!

Now we can all just wait for loveless to blow his life savings and move to singapore j/k!

takuya_angel wrote:

Perhaps, most of us here prefer foreigners to locals as well. They're more charismatic & outgoing i guess. And yeah, pls call me if u're ever coming down!!

sure thing hottie

...well... are singaporean guys really serious and boring and stuff all the time then?... there's gotta be some good ones out there!
wanna know something funny... i dun even know where singapore is... lol... i'm so dumb >.< ... i know its near china
what is singapore famous for? like what to all the turist do when they're down there? but sure i wanna visit there someday it looks REALLY CLEAN ...
and baroobawhatever i'm not moving to singapore.. I'M MOVING TO JAPAN! i will VISIT singapore

denis how could u not like Ashton Kutcher.... come dude! "where's my car!" .. come on! jk..lol