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arashiawase



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ooh m.a.s.o.n19

STEP & GO = LOVE ♥
you are no longer alone Hug
but i won't be here too frequently tho'. i was here just to celebrate S&G success Victory! Peace!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

arashiawase wrote:
yeap. i wouldn't have bought the single without the DVD.
We'll just have to wait how it performs after all the LIMITED edition is sold out. (i think it sold out already.. not sure)



I went to CDJapan today and the LE with DVD is already out of print. So yes, no wonder the first day's sales is so high considering the LE is already sold out.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

WD wrote:


I went to CDJapan today and the LE with DVD is already out of print. So yes, no wonder the first day's sales is so high considering the LE is already sold out.

actually, its already out of print at CDjapan 3hrs after preorder announcement. Usually the LE will be available in stores on the day of release but there's been information none can be found in Japanese music stores as of now. All sold ot I presume.
Maybe they've increased the LE prints too.
LE are used to make an impact on first day sales so this is not surprising but 107,689 is a lot an very rare to have it as high. I think they might've top the first day sales index list.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

arashiawase wrote:


the Hime turned into an ape? Can't wait to see the film.


Oh btw, Fye-san. Please stop the Step & Go hate and saying the record breaking sales was due to Johnny's power. Smile
They did it without any tie-ins (drama theme songs, cm songs) like the previous singles.
Arashi deserves the accolades, not doubts.
Its a good single. The song is great despite all the ramblings of how ordinary it was in here. The fans love it (including me). That's the reason for the high sales debut. Not forgetting, Arashi is NOW, damn popular.


LOLZ! whats this? are they proving that humans really came from monkeys and dont tell me MatsuJun will prove it a drama?! ahaha!!! hello!

btw, i came to appreciate Step and Go... particulary the Sakurap part Naughty
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Daily sales - Weekly update

x->1->1 - Arashi - 107,689 + 39,384 (x1.75) = 257,377
x->2->2 - Utada Hikaru - 8,504 + 6,898 (x1.75) = 26,953

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hikaru Sakurai wrote:
Daily sales - Weekly update

x->1->1 - Arashi - 107,689 + 39,384 (x1.75) = 257,377
x->2->2 - Utada Hikaru - 8,504 + 6,898 (x1.75) = 26,953


and the numbers keep climbing Dancing
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

That's down quite a lot. I was expecting that because the first day's index is around 107,000, then the second day will be around at least 50,000. Well when KT got more than 100,000 index last year, the second day's sales only dropped around 50,000 or so.

No chance for Step and Go to get 500k there. The numbers are down pretty low.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

arashiawase wrote:

@Fye_D.Flowright: its totally fine to express your opinion on the song as i do understand taste are subjective. However, claiming that the sales was due to "the Johnny's power" (or JE talents phenomena atm)... well.. don't want to be harsh but honestly... it was kinda insulting to Arashi obvious achievement on Step & Go. Sorry dear and I do understand you like them too Smile
There was just not much love on S&G in this thread. I guess those who love it tend to be quite about their love as opposed that those who are loud about their dislikes :/. But that doesn't matter, people still love Arashi no matter what ne~



I don't mean it dear.. Sweat I mean, maybe because of they are Johnny's, that is one of the point for the high sales. I'm not insulting Arashi at all coz I also love them dearie, I just want to say this one only. Maybe I said it not in proper way, and if I hurt you and the other fanz..hontou ni gomen Bow Bow Bow
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

WD wrote:
That's down quite a lot. I was expecting that because the first day's index is around 107,000, then the second day will be around at least 50,000. Well when KT got more than 100,000 index last year, the second day's sales only dropped around 50,000 or so.

No chance for Step and Go to get 500k there. The numbers are down pretty low.


yep. I was hoping the sales would be at least around 45,000 for them to make it to 500k mark. The week is not over yet but I predicting the accumulated sales will surpass LSS. Hopefully Fingers crossed

btw, what was the KATTUN single that had managed to get 100k index? Is it Real Face? I have only datas of their recent releases. 1st day figures are hard to come by (or i just don't know where to search Bleah). I think Keep The Faith was around 88k for the first day. If say you are comparing Kattun debut single to Arashi's nth release, i think as a debut single Real Face would have much more advantages against Arashi's Step & Go. I think JStorm announced it only 1month prior to release and just have been actively promoting it within.. 2 weeks. My facts might be wrong though since i'm just writting based on memory.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

m.a.s.o.n_19 wrote:



of course... gomen !!... i think i didn'd see it while posting. I respect your opinion.

And rethinking my post before.... i think this is a free thread... everyone can give their own opinions ne?... while writting it ... i was upset.... but now... i'm sorry i posted that... didn't really meant to say don't say things like that.... i really like to hear other people's opinions...


i could be quite impulsive sometimes.... sorry.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Fye_D.Flowright wrote:


I don't mean it dear.. Sweat I mean, maybe because of they are Johnny's, that is one of the point for the high sales. I'm not insulting Arashi at all coz I also love them dearie, I just want to say this one only. Maybe I said it not in proper way, and if I hurt you and the other fanz..hontou ni gomen Bow Bow Bow

sorry for making you sweat & bow, but i tend to be quite frank sometimes. Sweat
They are Johnny's and of course they'll almost always gets the top spot on the charts, but i just don't understand the need to put down their achievement by saying that. "Oh.. that's because they are Johnny's".. but they don't get 100++++ 1st day index sales everyday.
I love the song, the PV and am a buyer. I believe most of the fans that actually bought the single love it as well. It felt like you were critisizing my purchase/taste by questioning that, eventhough you don't really meant it. I respect your opinion on the song but that post bothered me. Appology accepted Smile and am very sorry for being harsh.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Fye_D.Flowright wrote:


thanks for understand me w00t!



No problem !! Big Grin



And about the sales thing... yeah i guess it dropped quiet a bit... even tho the week isn't over yet... let's wait.... Fingers crossed

i think many people preorder it.... like me... so that number could probably be from all who preordered it.... and the real sales are form 2nd day on... i think
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

arashiawase wrote:

sorry for making you sweat & bow, but i tend to be quite frank sometimes. Sweat
They are Johnny's and of course they'll almost always gets the top spot on the charts, but i just don't understand the need to put down their achievement by saying that. "Oh.. that's because they are Johnny's".. but they don't get 100++++ 1st day index sales everyday.
I love the song, the PV and am a buyer. I believe most of the fans that actually bought the single love it as well. It felt like you were critisizing my purchase/taste by questioning that, eventhough you don't really meant it. I respect your opinion on the song but that post bothered me. Appology accepted Smile and am very sorry for being harsh.


I'm not critisizing you dear Sweat and don't feel like that again. Its normal for a new single to be critic by others whether its good or not. I'm saying like that because, as I mentioned in my previous post, Arashi deserved more than this, and I also thought this is an open thread and everyone is free to give opinion and discuss anything related to Arashi whether it is good or bad, as long as they didn't mention something that of course will ruin the future of Arashi. I'm not like the Step and Go song and PV, but I do think the Fuyu wo Dakishimete quite good song. If you go outside this forum, there's a lot of arashi fanz mentioned the same thing as I do, but they said it in same way as I think. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Arashi blew me away with their first day -sales. Totally.
By the huge numbers AND Hikki being that far behind.

This single being so-so, I was thinking that with the right promo they could maybe reach LSSish-sales in the long run, but I admit that this came way from the woods.

At this rate, if the sales won't have a drastic drop (you never know, the chart's been quite unstable and when we count how the JE-releases behave in charts in general), they might even be close to the 400k-mark at the end of the week.
Amazing.

Well, JE has always done their homework when it comes to promotion.


They showed a little outcut footage in this week's Utaban. Ohno is so dense Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Fye_D.Flowright wrote:


I'm not critisizing you dear Sweat and don't feel like that again. Its normal for a new single to be critic by others whether its good or not. I'm saying like that because, as I mentioned in my previous post, Arashi deserved more than this, and I also thought this is an open thread and everyone is free to give opinion and discuss anything related to Arashi whether it is good or bad, as long as they didn't mention something that of course will ruin the future of Arashi. I'm not like the Step and Go song and PV, but I do think the Fuyu wo Dakishimete quite good song. If you go outside this forum, there's a lot of arashi fanz mentioned the same thing as I do, but they said it in same way as I think. Wink


So i'm a bit sensitive about my Arashi merchandise :p. Its rare for me to buy anything yet I picked this because I truly love the single thus indirectly am 1 of those who contributed to the amazing first day sales figure. And I'm proud to say I bought a copy. As I said before, the "hate" is louder here than the love. I'm just representing the S&G love.

The point of my initial reproached was because you came off (note: past tense) as dicrediting/downplaying/rebuting the obvious achievement from their amazing sales figure. In my opinion its a time for us to celebrate the ocassion rather than questioning wth the single was so successful. Its just natural for me to get all work up about it.. its 108679 for goodness sake. Rare even for a Johnny's (try searching for their past 1st day sales figures). Arashi should get their due credits, not just generalizing them as Johnny's.. Claiming that its an ordinary Johnny's like achievement might not ruin Arashi future but, it still gives a whiff of negativity towards them imho. Its disheartening since they've worked hard to break the typical public perception of being "mere" idols.

And since this is an open thread, I'm free to criticize your critique. As I said before, I'm fine with fans not loving the single and am totally aware of the current fandom reaction towards Step & Go (song & PV). Unfortunately you missed reading the other theories I've suggested as to play along the trend of this thread on the reasons of S&G success (which includes Fuyu Dakishimete as one of the reasons. it in the previous page fyi.) Btw, jdorama is not the only place i've been loitering for Arashi crack fyi and I've been posting and lurking around Arashidom for quite awhile now, much longer than you presume I guess my dear Wink.
I still stand by my opinion, the figures speaks lauder than all the talks/"hates".

sorry for not explaining the reasons of my rebuke clearly.

btw, what do you mean by " Arashi deserved more than this"? Sorry, but I don't quite understand what were you refering to.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

whoa~~
are you guys debating?
hehe hehe
but i love to read it.. different opinion and views *since i don't have anything to complain about their new single*
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

arashiawase wrote:


So i'm a bit sensitive about my Arashi merchandise :p. Its rare for me to buy anything yet I picked this because I truly love the single thus indirectly am 1 of those who contributed to the amazing first day sales figure. And I'm proud to say I bought a copy. As I said before, the "hate" is louder here than the love. I'm just representing the S&G love.

The point of my initial reproached was because you came off (note: past tense) as dicrediting/downplaying/rebuting the obvious achievement from their amazing sales figure. In my opinion its a time for us to celebrate the ocassion rather than questioning wth the single was so successful. Its just natural for me to get all work up about it.. its 108679 for goodness sake. Rare even for a Johnny's (try searching for their past 1st day sales figures). Arashi should get their due credits, not just generalizing them as Johnny's.. Claiming that its an ordinary Johnny's like achievement might not ruin Arashi future but, it still gives a whiff of negativity towards them imho. Its disheartening since they've worked hard to break the typical public perception of being "mere" idols.

And since this is an open thread, I'm free to criticize your critique. As I said before, I'm fine with fans not loving the single and am totally aware of the current fandom reaction towards Step & Go (song & PV). Unfortunately you missed reading the other theories I've suggested as to play along the trend of this thread on the reasons of S&G success (which includes Fuyu Dakishimete as one of the reasons. it in the previous page fyi.) Btw, jdorama is not the only place i've been loitering for Arashi crack fyi and I've been posting and lurking around Arashidom for quite awhile now, much longer than you presume I guess my dear Wink.
I still stand by my opinion, the figures speaks lauder than all the talks/"hates".

sorry for not explaining the reasons of my rebuke clearly.


wow~~such a clear and cool answer Smile I salute you for this dear Wink If you still stand with your opinion then me here is the same too Wink But don't worry, not "hates" around for this time, its just love and likes only. Wink If you realized here, its just me who didn't like S&G Sweat and I don't think what I'm saying before will ruin their future. If yes, then I'm a VERY bad fanz at all Bang Head Maybe this will enhance their spirit to do much more better than this to improve that they are not "mere" idol.


arashiawase wrote:
btw, what do you mean by " Arashi deserved more than this"? Sorry, but I don't quite understand what were you refering to.


I answer this later. my boss called me to have a meeting right now.

Oh..BTW, I like you arashiawase Cool! Cool!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Fye_D.Flowright wrote:


If you realized here, its just me who didn't like S&G Sweat and I don't think what I'm saying before will ruin their future. If yes, then I'm a VERY bad fanz at all Bang Head Maybe this will enhance their spirit to do much more better than this to improve that they are not "mere" idol.


well, even though i said that i have no complain about their single, it doesn't mean i really like S&G. if you read my previous-previous post, i've mentioned that S&G is so-so song..
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

amyhisashi wrote:
whoa~~
are you guys debating?
hehe hehe
but i love to read it.. different opinion and views *since i don't have anything to complain about their new single*

i'm just spicing up the thread Wink
its more healthier to read debates, sales figures, facts and news rather than flailings and rants. at least you'll learn more that way.
other than that, there's just a lacking of crack in this thread. i just have to give my retort since i actually came here to flail. all i see are complains prior to our heated debate hehe honestly, it annoyed the heck out of me.
You can call me elitist for my views if you want hehe
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ehh..there's hot debate in here while im gone..everyone have their own opinion..i guess u have to respect it no matter how irritated it is..

well..i love the single..Step & Go..not the best..but i love it..and arashi totally deserve it, they've been in the industry since 1999..they worked really hard to achieve this..i've asked someone from japan whether arashi really popular in japan..she said that it was starting around 2006-2007 they that they've gotten so popular...iand they deserve it,,thus its up to us, fans. to spread arashi love..ganbaruyo.. Victory! Peace!
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