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amrayu
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| dochira wrote: | My dad has a Panasonic VCR that still works to this day. You need to push the Play button with some force to move the heads in place, and it weighs a ton.  |
My Mitsubishi SVHS VCR still works the same way like the day I bought it. I remember paying $200.00 for it.
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dochira
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:34 am Post subject: |
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| amrayu wrote: |
My Mitsubishi SVHS VCR still works the same way like the day I bought it. I remember paying $200.00 for it. |
They don't build them nowadays like they did, that's for sure. But how many people would spend the money for really quality stuff.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| dochira wrote: | | They don't build them nowadays like they did, that's for sure. But how many people would spend the money for really quality stuff. |
As far as most consumer electronics go, the stuff is pretty much disposble... If it break down beyond the warranty period, more than likely you'll junk it and buy a new one. It'll usually cost more to repair the thing than to buy one to replace it... 
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Amrayu,
I did try the bad disc in the computer. Nothing. Zippo. Eject.
I tried it in my HP desk top. Nothing. Eject.
I tried it in my old Zenith DVD stand alone player. Nothing. Wouldn't start up. Eject.
Same with my JVC player, and my Polaroid player.
They all simply ejected the disc.
The Panasonic is the only one that went all Fred Sanford on me.
Try it again in the new machine?
I'd have to chase down the garbage truck.
By the way... just in terms of closure... the replacement for the bad disc arrived in the mail today and plays perfectly.
So, new Panasonic Recorder.
New Disc.
New game. _________________ Manga is to Literature
what Graffiti is to Art |
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| bmwracer wrote: | After another week of experimenting, I think recording anything in XP mode then compressing it again to fit more on a single DVD is worse than just recording in SP/LP to begin with.
In the former, you're compressing the video twice, whereas in the latter case, you're only compressing the video once... The real question is what kind of MPEG2 compression is the Panasonic using....?  |
A very interesting observation. You have used this machine more in the last month than I have in more than two.
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bmwracer
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| Mr.ChoyBoi wrote: | There is so much text, does anybody have a quick answer to a good dvd recorder?  |
Well, we've mainly been talking about the Panasonic DMR-ES10.
And tomorrow's the drop-dead date for getting five free DVD-RAM discs with the purchase of the DMR-ES10...
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| Mr.ChoyBoi wrote: | | Whats a good price for it? I was thinking of getting a recorder so I can record stuff on tv. |
I bought mine online from buydig.com for $163... $183 with shipping...
Amazon had it for $179 with free shipping, but I missed that price change by a couple of days... It was only four bucks.
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| Mr.ChoyBoi wrote: | | Sounds affordable.... No problems bmw? |
None so far.
Some things you need to know about this recorder (DMR-ES10):
Using DVD-RAM gives you maximum recording flexibility, nothing mention a 100K write/rewrite capability. DVDRWs only have about 1000.
It can only record with DVD-RAM, DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RW (not DVD+RW).
You can only record widescreen video (16:9) using DVD-RAM discs. All others are reformattted to 4:3.
Can play MP3s, JPEG, VCD, CD, DVD, DVD-Audio, DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW.
Has inputs on the front (L-R-V) and back of the recorder (two sets, L-R-V) as well as S-video inputs/outputs.
Component video outputs.
VCR Plus+ built in and auto clock set (sorta cool).
I'd recommend using DVD-RAMs only since they offer maximum flexiibility... And you have a Pioneer 107D, so it can read the DVD-RAM discs on your PC. 
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| Mr.ChoyBoi wrote: | | Whats the diference with the dvd-ram discs?? They just last longer?? |
Well, in the case of the Panasonic, it appears that the recorder is optimized for that particular media.
The downside is that PC's internal Pioneer drive (in fact, ALL current Pioneers) can only read the DVD-RAM discs at 2X speed max... So after I record the DVD-RAM to capacity, it takes about 25 minutes to pipe the data into my PC...
Oh well.
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| Mr.ChoyBoi wrote: | YIKES!!... How about the NEC burner? Maybe elt could help us out....  |
Hmm, I'm not even sure if the NEC can read DVD-RAM discs...
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