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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

G-Pjube wrote:
What is the best way too learn Kanji? I now have Kanji the Manga, but I'm looking for more ways too learn more/better.


learning how to read kanji.... manga is a good way. that's how i learned alot of the kanji i know.

as for writing kanji... basically the best way there is to write them over and over and use them in sentences as well.

currently, i'm playing a nintendo DS game that helps you with reading and learning kanji... it's awesome. it's sort of nice because my kanji reading level is much much higher than my kanji writing level. i'm hoping to even things out a bit Sweat
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:09 am    Post subject: how to learn kanji Reply with quote Back to top

kanji is make up of some indiscerptible character.sometimes you know by the part of it.like"��" is make up of "��"(sun)�@and "��"(moon) ,sun and moon of course is shining.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hey minna, another question.

All my life I thought "-kun" could only be added to a boy's name, but in some J-movies I hear female characters being called '-kun'!

Why is that?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

1. Ivory trees
2. �ΐ���
3. SCENT,THE
4. eternal colors
5. �썑
6. morning whisper
7. With-you
8. Egos and Lies
9. �����q�H
10. Siam's Eye
11. IN FOREST
12. Lhasa(unplugged)
13. Without you
14. I Love You
15. �i��

these are La'cryma Cristi's "Single Collection". I want to know about track 2, track 5, track 9 & track 15.. can someone translate it for me please.. Bow
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

obentou wrote:
Hey minna, another question.

All my life I thought "-kun" could only be added to a boy's name, but in some J-movies I hear female characters being called '-kun'!

Why is that?


From Wikipedia :
Kun (�N) is an informal and intimate honorific primarily used towards males. (It is still used towards females, but rarely.) It is used by persons of senior status in addressing those of junior status, by males of roughly the same age and status when addressing each other, and by anyone in addressing male children. In business settings, women, particularly young women, may also be addressed as kun by older males of senior status. It is sometimes used towards male pets as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

@ k-role:
no.2 is Westerlies Head Scratch
no.5 is Nangoku Head Scratch
no.15 is Eien Head Scratch meaning : forever
no.9 is Mirai Koro Head Scratch meaning : future destination
no.3 THE SCENT
i found those names on Wikipedia and i think i'm wrong Sweat err... isn't this suppose to be ask in Japanese to English thread Head Scratch not here
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

kami_kaze wrote:
@ k-role:
no.2 is Westerlies Head Scratch
no.5 is Nangoku Head Scratch
no.15 is Eien Head Scratch meaning : forever
no.9 is Mirai Koro Head Scratch meaning : future destination
no.3 THE SCENT
i found those names on Wikipedia and i think i'm wrong Sweat err... isn't this suppose to be ask in Japanese to English thread Head Scratch not here


OMG, gomen ne.. i didn't notice the thread you were talking about.. Mr Green but thanks anyway..
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

kami_kaze wrote:


From Wikipedia :
Kun (�N) is an informal and intimate honorific primarily used towards males. (It is still used towards females, but rarely.) It is used by persons of senior status in addressing those of junior status, by males of roughly the same age and status when addressing each other, and by anyone in addressing male children. In business settings, women, particularly young women, may also be addressed as kun by older males of senior status. It is sometimes used towards male pets as well.


Ahh. Now I know. Arigatou, kami-kaze-san!! Bow
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Which part of this kanji is written first - �j�@? (you - day of the week)

Is it the ��part, or the�@��'s at the top?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Keps wrote:
Which part of this kanji is written first - �j�@? (you - day of the week)

Is it the ��part, or the�@��'s at the top?


In this case, the �� is written first.
In general, if a kanji has a left side and a right side, the left is written first.
If a kanji has stacked parts, such as in �� then the top gets written first.
If a kanji consists of a boundary with something inside it, like ��, then the left side of the outer boundary gets written first, followed by the top and right side. Then, you write the inside element, and finally close off the outer boundary by writing the bottom line.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thank you for a very quick reply, Kokuou.
I do usually have a fair idea of what part of a kanji is written first, but this one had me confounded.
I know the stroke orders for ���A�� and�@�, I just didn't know where to begin!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

i think this is a good place to ask


when reading off your phone # to someone else...do you say the # as is or???

ex.

523-7780

go, ni, san, nana, nana, hachi, zero????

I learned this last year in Japanese 2, but I forgot already and my friend is asking.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

K.T.Tran wrote:
i think this is a good place to ask


when reading off your phone # to someone else...do you say the # as is or???

ex.

523-7780

go, ni, san, nana, nana, hachi, zero????

I learned this last year in Japanese 2, but I forgot already and my friend is asking.


I would say the second way, KT-kun. But then i've never had to do it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Anime Dad wrote:


I would say the second way, KT-kun. But then i've never had to do it.


oh....

I think reading it off # by # just take too freakin long Beaten Beaten

oh well.......

the way some folks reads off Phone # in english is dumb too.

using "o" instead of saying "Zero" Sweat Sweat
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

K.T.Tran wrote:
i think this is a good place to ask


when reading off your phone # to someone else...do you say the # as is or???

ex.

523-7780

go, ni, san, nana, nana, hachi, zero????

I learned this last year in Japanese 2, but I forgot already and my friend is asking.


Yeah, each number is read individually.
Incidentally, '0' can be read as �܂� (maru), too. (This is a case where it varies from person to person.)

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

kokuou wrote:


Yeah, each number is read individually.
Incidentally, '0' can be read as �܂� (maru), too. (This is a case where it varies from person to person.)

HTH,
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last time when im studying japan, my sensei said that besides zero, we can say rei..so, in this case can i say 'rei' instead?but i prefer to say zero! Sweat
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

kokuou wrote:


Yeah, each number is read individually.
Incidentally, '0' can be read as �܂� (maru), too. (This is a case where it varies from person to person.)

HTH,
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doumo arigatou kokuo san Bow Bow

i didn't know about the maru part. Thanks w00t! w00t!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

chiba wrote:


last time when im studying japan, my sensei said that besides zero, we can say rei..so, in this case can i say 'rei' instead?but i prefer to say zero! Sweat


'Rei' is also fine, but it sounds a bit old.
The only place you really hear 'rei' for 'zero' is in things like ��x (0 degrees C), and �뎞 (midnight; sometimes noon).
If you are just referring to the number '0' in general, most people say 'zero' or 'maru'.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Is it acceptable to write someone's name in Hiragana, if you don't know the Kanji they use or don't know Kanji at all? As in if you're writing an email etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Anime Dad wrote:
Is it acceptable to write someone's name in Hiragana, if you don't know the Kanji they use or don't know Kanji at all? As in if you're writing an email etc.
    Hmmm, that's a tough one. Right off the top of my head, I would say no. Sometimes I'll see magazine articles and it will show the person's name in Kanji and then below it or off to the side it will show it in hiragana. Almost as if to say, "O.K. for you dummies that don't know your Kanji, here's how you pronounce his name"
    Edit: but then you've got people like Odagiri Joe, he spells his name in Katakana!!! Bonk

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