whoa this thread runs fast when its talking about stupid drivers lol.. aho, i got one of those pet peeves too.. y'know everytime i go to a gas station theres mostly some homeless beggin for change or $$ i gave them a sandwich one time and he refused it.. i was like wtf? theres no poison in it i'd be freakin happy if someone gives me food than money.. i mean who knows what hes gonna buy..
I remember one time, a homeless came up to me and ask me for $$, and i smelled alcohol on his breath, and i asked him, that he will use it for alcohol and i don't support that at all. He tried to ask again and i refused, because i know he would have used it for alcohol.
btw: i don't know why that homeless guy would refuse a sandwich(food), and just want money. Probably so he can buy some more alcohol.
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:10 am Post subject:
qilver wrote:
btw: i don't know why that homeless guy would refuse a sandwich(food), and just want money. Probably so he can buy some more alcohol.
yeh foreal, n it was a big sandwich too (subway) i actually bought it for my mom cuz she likes subs, and to think i'd just give it away to a stranger
^ nah he can get a drink, theres a water fountain inside the gas station, id offer him water too if i have it, and if i were him, id rather eat to fill up my stomach than drink liquids if i was really hungry _________________
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:17 am Post subject:
SubaruWRX wrote:
not trying to be funny but they have homless people in Hawaii? I would have never thought of that..
I mean I figure it costs alot to move to Hawaii right?
dude, there are SO many homeless there, and thats just on the beaches. but doch is right, there is a VERY thin line between economic have's and the have nots. _________________
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:43 am Post subject:
MixxDreamer wrote:
yeh foreal, n it was a big sandwich too (subway) i actually bought it for my mom cuz she likes subs, and to think i'd just give it away to a stranger
^ nah he can get a drink, theres a water fountain inside the gas station, id offer him water too if i have it, and if i were him, id rather eat to fill up my stomach than drink liquids if i was really hungry
Oh crap... lol I forgot they have a Subway here.. I think I know where lunch/dinner will be coming from.
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:44 am Post subject:
niko2x wrote:
dude, there are SO many homeless there, and thats just on the beaches. but doch is right, there is a VERY thin line between economic have's and the have nots.
wow... they don't ever say anything about this.. just maybe like Major City's like NYC and shuch.
yeh foreal, n it was a big sandwich too (subway) i actually bought it for my mom cuz she likes subs, and to think i'd just give it away to a stranger
^ nah he can get a drink, theres a water fountain inside the gas station, id offer him water too if i have it, and if i were him, id rather eat to fill up my stomach than drink liquids if i was really hungry
i guess it depends on who the homeless person is, what their personality. I had one homeless guy i gave some cookies and bottle water, he was so thankful and thank me and took it right away. It is homeless like that are ones you would be inclined to give to, not the alcoholic homeless person that is just begging for beer money.
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:22 am Post subject:
This makes me wonder.....why do they carry a sign that says "Homeless and Hungry" but they rather accept $$$ for smokes or beer and not accept a free lunch _________________
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:33 am Post subject:
qilver wrote:
i guess it depends on who the homeless person is, what their personality. I had one homeless guy i gave some cookies and bottle water, he was so thankful and thank me and took it right away. It is homeless like that are ones you would be inclined to give to, not the alcoholic homeless person that is just begging for beer money.
it DOES depends on the person. there were several times (OK, twice) where i was going to work in the subway and encounted 2 different blind people on 2 different occasion. trying to do the right thing, i was like 'sir would you like some help?" trying to get them out of the the mob that is the sub way. as i was going to gently get a hold on their elbows on both occassions, those ungrateful blind m_other-F___ers were like "I GOT IT!!!" and shook me off. My God, i was so pi$$ed, if they weren't blind, they would have had shoe polish breath, b/c my foot would be SOOOOO far up their a$$. _________________
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:11 pm Post subject:
There have been times that I have given money and food to homeless people. All of those times were recently to the homeless who (according to my everyday observations) never panhandled. They would mind their own business and pick food up from the trash cans and not bug people for "some change for food".
It took me a while to actually act on the act of giving to them, however after seeing the "selected few" everyday for around 5-8 months or so, I'd give them something when I felt like it.
The good thing about it was that they were actually happy to receive the $5.00, McDonald's cheeseburger, filet o fish, Big Mac, whatever. At least they appreciated the fact that someone gave them something.
There have been times in the past when peope have asked me for cigarettes or money. When I gave them a cigarette, or some change, they would just walk away. No "thank you". As if it were expected. That got me upset. And yeah, I was still naive at the time. Last time that happened to me was when I was 17.
Kind of reminds me of those who use and abuse the welfare system as a source of income when they are in fact able to work and earn their own income. Bastards. 'Cause of them we have to.........
And yes, a lot of those crack addict, alcholic, etc. homeless people who panhandle are on SSI. They get those monthly checks drawn off of the Federal Reserve Bank. (Y'know, the checks that look like our tax return checks) The same one that we pour our own precious earned income into. (It's called taxes ) That is the only downside to the welfare system. Originally meant to do good has turned into a "double edged sword", so to speak.
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:52 pm Post subject:
niko2x wrote:
it DOES depends on the person. there were several times (OK, twice) where i was going to work in the subway and encounted 2 different blind people on 2 different occasion. trying to do the right thing, i was like 'sir would you like some help?" trying to get them out of the the mob that is the sub way. as i was going to gently get a hold on their elbows on both occassions, those ungrateful blind m_other-F___ers were like "I GOT IT!!!" and shook me off. My God, i was so pi$$ed, if they weren't blind, they would have had shoe polish breath, b/c my foot would be SOOOOO far up their a$$.
@ niko2x:
As kind as your gestures were to those 2 blind people (and I know they were very well intentioned and very kind) on the subway you have to remember that blindness does not mean helpless. When I lived in Manhattan I was always amazed at how well the blind were able to navigate the city. Hey better than some sighted folks. The blind I am sure take great pride in their independence getting about the city, so perhaps the reaction you got was because throughout their average day they get way too many well intentioned offers of help and they might get irritated and yes down right nasty because they are being treated as if they were helpless children so often. I know niko-chan you will continue to be a kind, compassionate, caring person to those in need. It is nice to know there are people like you keeping a watchful eye out for others less fortunate than yourself.
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:04 pm Post subject:
Enna wrote:
@ niko2x:
As kind as your gestures were to those 2 blind people (and I know they were very well intentioned and very kind) on the subway you have to remember that blindness does not mean helpless. When I lived in Manhattan I was always amazed at how well the blind were able to navigate the city. Hey better than some sighted folks. The blind I am sure take great pride in their independence getting about the city, so perhaps the reaction you got was because throughout their average day they get way too many well intentioned offers of help and they might get irritated and yes down right nasty because they are being treated as if they were helpless children so often. I know niko-chan you will continue to be a kind, compassionate, caring person to those in need. It is nice to know there are people like you keeping a watchful eye out for others less fortunate than yourself.
thx for the kind words, enna. wanna have lunch?
No but seriously, i guess it was just those 2 incidents. there were othertimes where other "sight-challenged" people that were very grateful and kind. i mean i don't really go out of my way to help them just to help them, but when they are like stuck, look lost, or worse, really close to the platform (where one can fall into the tracks) thats ususlly when they need most help. there was that one guy who was stuck around this tricky corridor and was feeling out with his stick for about 10 or so seconds. everyone was rushing past him and i was like, "man, poor dude". thats when the good-samritan-hormone kicked in and i was gonna lead him to the esculators to get away from the mob of commuters, but thats when he got all snotty with me.
I see why people weren't in any rush to help him. blind or not, if a person is a jerk, they remain a jerk. _________________
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:52 am Post subject:
niko2x wrote:
thx for the kind words, enna. wanna have lunch?
No but seriously, i guess it was just those 2 incidents. there were othertimes where other "sight-challenged" people that were very grateful and kind.
I see why people weren't in any rush to help him. blind or not, if a person is a jerk, they remain a jerk.
@niko2x:
You are welcome.
Who knows we may run into each other at Mitsuwas in NJ one day. I still haven't been there yet. Have you?
I see what you mean about his nasty attitude. Hmmm they say we all choose our own life lessons we are here to learn before we are born. So I guess that guy had a few more to learn.
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:07 am Post subject:
Enna wrote:
@niko2x:
You are welcome.
Who knows we may run into each other at Mitsuwas in NJ one day. I still haven't been there yet. Have you?
I see what you mean about his nasty attitude. Hmmm they say we all choose our own life lessons we are here to learn before we are born. So I guess that guy had a few more to learn.
actually, my wife's aunt is in NJ and we go there 2x a yr. when we go up, we usually take the aunt to that NJ mitsuwa because, there is no asian place in her part of NJ. (phillipsburg)
sorry to get off track. we were talking/griping about what p1$$es us off right? i guess mine would be ungrateful bastards... _________________
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