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The Man
Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1249 Location: USA Country: |
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:56 am Post subject: |
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Ushiroyubi wrote: |
haha yah. M2, so I thought, would be a lifesaver... but to no avail. They teased us then yanked the rug from under us here in NYC by pulling the station a couple of years back.
MuchMusic is trash and there really isn't much out there that I'd want to see these days anyway.
Japan is still on the ball though.
...it's the little things. |
Ah. That's really great to hear that other countries' MTV hasn't marred their programming with "Let's pretend that we're living the real life in an apartment that we'd never even consider living in w/the myriad of personalities that we're going to anyway just to get on MTV" programming. Or, YIKES, is that next???
Oh, this is a great exchange here. But . . . to go back on the topic, I think another major difference has to do with how acteurs tend appear on TV or movies in Japan. In the U.S., there are still a buncha' film actors who will probably NEVER appear on TV (i.e., Nicholson, Beatty, Sean Penn, Robert Redford, Ben Affleck, Halle Berry, Meryl Streep, et al.). Oddly enough, a good number of acteurs on TV want to break into film (case in point, the cast of Friends, who don't seem to be doing a good job of breaking through, if you ask me; Denzel Washington, though, is a great example of a TV star who successfully conquered cinematic roles).
Also . . . J-dorama tends to be shot more in studios; U.S. TV dramas go on location, as well as use sound stage.
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ahochaude
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 10291 Location: Matsuhama-cho, Ashiya-shi, Hyogo-ken, Japan Country: |
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Ushiroyubi wrote: |
MTV has music videos? |
Only sometimes. So I watch Direct Effect and stuff. I hate all of those Reality show crap. Real World and Road Rules. Then they have Made and Pimp My Ride. And Diary. Bleah. And like you said, MTV 2 is yanking off their MVs and putting on crap rather. In fact, MTV is playing Diary right now.
VH1 is ok, but they're becoming more like MTV. _________________
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Ushiroyubi
Joined: 15 Jan 2004 Posts: 886
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:07 am Post subject: |
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ahochaude wrote: |
Only sometimes. So I watch Direct Effect and stuff. I hate all of those Reality show crap. Real World and Road Rules. Then they have Made and Pimp My Ride. And Diary. Bleah. And like you said, MTV 2 is yanking off their MVs and putting on crap rather. In fact, MTV is playing Diary right now.
VH1 is ok, but they're becoming more like MTV. |
I was being sarcastic. _________________
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IkematsuSosuke
Joined: 14 Feb 2004 Posts: 1105 Location: Stockton/Frisco Country: |
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:09 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | MuchMusic is trash and there really isn't much out there that I'd want to see these days anyway. |
Did it go bad? I haven't had the channel for 2 years..when I had it it was awesome..they played alot of music, not bullshit stuff like MTV and MTV2..plus they played videos of unknown bands/artists.
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ahochaude
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 10291 Location: Matsuhama-cho, Ashiya-shi, Hyogo-ken, Japan Country: |
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:09 am Post subject: |
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Ushiroyubi wrote: |
I was being sarcastic. |
I know. Maybe I shouldn't have put in that first sentence. Didn't mean anything by it, really. Just venting about all of the shit that they play, that's all. _________________
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Ushiroyubi
Joined: 15 Jan 2004 Posts: 886
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:10 am Post subject: |
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IkematsuSosuke wrote: | Quote: | MuchMusic is trash and there really isn't much out there that I'd want to see these days anyway. |
Did it go bad? I haven't had the channel for 2 years..when I had it it was awesome..they played alot of music, not bullshit stuff like MTV and MTV2..plus they played videos of unknown bands/artists. |
yeah... it's graduated to being called "MuchNoise" by myself. lol _________________
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Ushiroyubi
Joined: 15 Jan 2004 Posts: 886
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:13 am Post subject: |
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I dunno... I used to love loud riffs and a violent hardcore sound...
but these days I'd prefer bubblegum, a little trance, and/or some classic jazz to round out my days and evenings...
my life has become like this and I'm content.... _________________
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The Man
Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1249 Location: USA Country: |
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IkematsuSosuke
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ahochaude
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 10291 Location: Matsuhama-cho, Ashiya-shi, Hyogo-ken, Japan Country: |
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:18 am Post subject: |
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The Man wrote: | Oh, I have another "noticeable" difference. I mean, speaking objectively, there tend to be 2 or 3 different ethnicities in U.S. drama while J-dorama has only one. No? |
Japan on occasion will throw in an Indian here and there and a Korean or Chinese or American _________________
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Ushiroyubi
Joined: 15 Jan 2004 Posts: 886
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:18 am Post subject: |
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The Man wrote: | Oh, I have another "noticeable" difference. I mean, speaking objectively, there tend to be 2 or 3 different ethnicities in U.S. dorama. Japanese only one. No? |
lol... "Friends'" first four seasons don't count right? (joke)
I dunno... there have been some 'gaijin' creeping into a few J-doramas recently. Other than that... what do you expect from the most homogeneous country in the world? _________________
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ahochaude
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 10291 Location: Matsuhama-cho, Ashiya-shi, Hyogo-ken, Japan Country: |
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 5:41 am Post subject: |
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Ushiroyubi wrote: | I dunno... there have been some 'gaijin' creeping into a few J-doramas recently. Other than that... what do you expect from the most homogeneous country in the world? |
Yeah. They seem to like Indians for some reason.
Especially on their somewhat reality/variety shows. _________________
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eightysix
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 1529 Location: United States Country: |
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 5:53 am Post subject: |
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ahochaude wrote: |
Yeah. They seem to like Indians for some reason.
Especially on their somewhat reality/variety shows. |
Not only Japanese dramas, but manga/anime too. Koalla Su from Love Hina is supposedly of Indian descent. And she always cooked extra spicy curry for Keitaro.
I remember there was a black guy on the GTO drama that made some cameos. And on the drama Sakura, there were a group of gaijin IIRC. I remember because there was this funny scene when a girl from the group claimed she was Japanese when it was obvious she wasn't.
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ahochaude
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 10291 Location: Matsuhama-cho, Ashiya-shi, Hyogo-ken, Japan Country: |
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 6:04 am Post subject: |
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eightysix wrote: | Not only Japanese dramas, but manga/anime too. Koalla Su from Love Hina is supposedly of Indian descent. And she always cooked extra spicy curry for Keitaro. |
Yeah, I noticed that too. They always in some fashion, find a way to associate the Indians that they feature with curry. Hella stereotyping (IMO). But at least it's better than them not even being able to open up to the idea of having a gaijin featured in a show, or manga for that matter. _________________
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The Man
Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1249 Location: USA Country: |
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Rinrin
Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 4016 Location: Honolulu, HI Country: |
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:55 am Post subject: |
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The Man wrote: | You know what might be neat? An Odoru Daisosasen/Law and Order or CSI crossover. |
Sounds good! I can just imagine Gil Grissom & Aoshima trying to communicate with each other!
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thetenken
Joined: 08 Nov 2003 Posts: 435 Location: USA Country: |
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:58 am Post subject: |
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ahochaude wrote: |
Yeah, I noticed that too. They always in some fashion, find a way to associate the Indians that they feature with curry. Hella stereotyping (IMO). But at least it's better than them not even being able to open up to the idea of having a gaijin featured in a show, or manga for that matter. |
I dunno, sometimes having more stereotypes is actually worse than not having them in there at all. I've noticed that Japanese dramas and anime will usually 1) play off of foreigner stereotypes, or 2) show foreigners being inculcated into or obsessed with Japanese culture.
I think the drama "Friends" was a significant step in bridging misunderstandings between Japanese and Korean cultures.
In terms of American v. Japanese dramas, I find that American drama is usually better at the 'serious' drama. ER, Law and Order, etc. Japanese dramas are better at love stories/melodramas. _________________
"...but it was my integrity that was important. Is that so selfish? It sells for so little, but it's all we have left in this place. It is the very last inch of us...but within that inch we are free." - V for Vendetta
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The Man
Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1249 Location: USA Country: |
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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thetenken wrote: |
In terms of American v. Japanese dramas, I find that American drama is usually better at the 'serious' drama. ER, Law and Order, etc. Japanese dramas are better at love stories/melodramas. |
Yeah, gotta second this one.
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