Nihon-jin wrote:

Ahochaude wrote: Quote: Yep. I was thinking that if I were to go to Japan and come back to the states, my resume would not improve, if at all, slightly. If I teach English there, or even work at Costco, what good will that do me?! I have a lot to think about.... hmmmmmmmmmmm Ahochaude, if you don't mind, let me give you another perspective. I've worked for some large international companies with offices in the U.S., Asia and Europe. The one thing I can tell you from my personal experience is that yes, a college degree is important, but companies now seem to consistently seek out individuals who stand out from the rest. Despite the fact that a college degree is still very important (I won't deny that), I've seen people get hired without college degrees because they'd done something uniquely different or had an altogether different background than everybody else. I think you're in that situation. By living in Japan, by being multi-lingual, you have the opportunity to present to future employers your ability to quickly adapt to a totally different environment, to be able to make well thought out decisions, to be independent, to assimilate cultural differences (not necessarily limited to countries but companies as well), and to prove that you're willing to take calculated risks. Living abroad is something not many people (even today) get to do and many employers view it as a "plus". You may have noticed that a lot of fast trackers in a company are often sent on overseas assignments. It's precisely because of what they gain by living overseas that they're sent there. And working for Costco there? Yeah, probably not the best thing in the world but guess what - it could very well be an opportunity to find out how the Japanese style of management differs from the American style - and be able to incorporate that in your resume. Granted, truthfully speaking, not every company will overlook your lack of a college degree but I rather doubt many companies would view your living abroad as a negative. The key to selling yourself in the resume is to present all the positives that came from living in Japan and use them to overcome anyone's objections to your lack of a college degree. So don't sell yourself short. If you really want to go then come back to the States, I don't think it'll hurt your resume at all. In fact, I'd be surprised if it didn't help.

I suppose this is one point-of-view.

To me, though . . . it'd be more realistic if you had a job lined up before you even packed a single bag. A job that you like and pays decently.

The following goes on a tangent relative to the discussion at hand, but, here it goes: I've heard, at least throughout the university systems 'round the U.S., the only way a foreign student (and, admittedly, might even be more difficult in this post-09/11/01 era) can apply for a research postiion, etc. (any university graduate-level job) is if the university absotively cannot find any U.S. student with the same expertise.

Or maybe it's NOT so tangential. I mean, let's face it -- Japan's one of the more homogeneous societies on the planet; do they have any mandated hiring practices when it comes to Nihonjin vs. Gaijin? [and I'm utilizing "vs." as it seems to be a popular article to cite in Japan.]

My advice right now, Mr. Ahochaude? With every incident I see on the news, with more than a few Hawai'i expatriates suddenly coming back home after many years of living somewhere's else . . . Hawai'i no ka oi, bruddah. And I WISH I were being biased in saying that. We may not be millionaires (yet ), but we sure have some clean livin' here.

K-den.

P.S. The Man is VERY pro-college degree. The completion of a bachelors degree is STILL not a walk in the park. I certainly don't think working overseas is a substitution for a degree. No way; why the heck you think our universities are filled with foreign students?

Rony Oka wrote:

Why would you get an airplane ticket to France? France is full of nothing but little lover boys and cheaters.

HUM HUUMMMM,
Please, someone help me !

French are nice, tall and romantic... Ask Tang and Helene !

Nihon-jin - i hate to say it, but one of the things that may work vs AC (and me, too) is the fact that we LOOK jp. correct me if i'm wrong, but i have a lot of friends from jp that agree with me. if you look like a gaijin, then they expect you to act/behave differently. if you're fluent in jp, you gain even more respect and admiration. if you look jp, they expect you to speak the language. the fact that you're san/yon-sei from hawaii, and learned to speak jp fluently on your own will mean nothing to them. and if you look like them, they'll expect you to act and behave like other jp. if you start rocking the boat at a company, i think you'll get frowned upon rather than applauded.

The Man wrote:

To me, though . . . it'd be more realistic if you had a job lined up before you even packed a single bag. A job that you like and pays decently.

once again, such sage advice coming from The Man. i had two friends just up and quit their jobs before finding new ones. i couldn't believe my ears when i heard the news. i practically scolded them for not consulting with me before making that decision. in my opinion, going jobless (by choice), is a HUUUUUGE risk, especially nowadays. both friends spent at least six months each before finding something with regular hours.

The Man wrote:

Hawai'i no ka oi, bruddah.

anyone who knows me knows that i'm pro-hawaii too, but i've seen a lot of people find success elsewhere, and you can always come back. AC, the important thing is that you've already given thought to your future (such as what would you do IF you came back), so at least i know you've got your head on right!

Ushiroyubi wrote:

You're actually a black girl from NYC?

yeah! why do u ask?
when i talk to asian boys sometimes i say "u think im wierd ?? like i dont look like id be into this kinda stuff right?" and then they say "NOOO! i dont think its wierd" i dunno if they are saying it cuz they are tryna be nice er what.
Ushiroyubi, how come u act surprised? no joke, i honestly dont know

Rony Oka wrote:

Why would you get an airplane ticket to France? France is full of nothing but little lover boys and cheaters. I would take a ticket to Japan. Because I have never had a spouse or significant other from Japan. So that would be an adventure.

aww man thats a messed up thing to say
i only know one frenchie and well ......he is short......and horney.....
but xavier is a nice boy!
but seriously , france is packed with hotties

TANG wrote:

yeah! why do u ask? when i talk to asian boys sometimes i say "u think im wierd ?? like i dont look like id be into this kinda stuff right?" and then they say "NOOO! i dont think its wierd" i dunno if they are saying it cuz they are tryna be nice er what. Ushiroyubi, how come u act surprised? no joke, i honestly dont know

I dunno... I haven't been around much , I just remember your shared details in the past being a bit "flighty". No harm or anything.

I'm black in the city as well... and I've dated Asian girls and have gotten similar reactions.
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Ushiroyubi wrote:

I dunno... I haven't been around much , I just remember your shared details in the past being a bit "flighty". No harm or anything. I'm black in the city as well... and I've dated Asian girls and have gotten similar reactions.

.....what does flighty mean?

Main Entry: flighty
Pronunciation: 'flI-tE
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): flight i er; -est
1 : SWIFT
2 : lacking stability or steadiness: a : easily upset : VOLATILE <a flighty temper> b : easily excited : SKITTISH <a flighty horse> c : CAPRICIOUS, SILLY
- flight i ly /'flI-t&l-E/ adverb
- flight i ness /'flI-tE-n&s/ noun

thanx bmw, .......i suppose i am a bit flighty

Japanese girls are VERY nice, its like they are born to be nice, as long as you don't act all annoying and what not, you'll be fine. Thats wat i see though

Uh guys, I don't think this is the correct forum for this discussion.. And I think there's already a thread for this topic in the General Discussion forum...

Moving...

latieungao wrote:

anyone know how i can get to know japanese girls? they seem nice but are they nice personality?

I have dated a Japanese-American, but not a Japanese national. At least not yet. My only experience with someone from a completely different culture was a girlfriend from Taiwan.

All I can say is that going for a Japanese girl, just because she's Japanese, better not be your only motivating factor. It's very tough to make a multicultural relationship work--at least from my own experience.

I've found the easiest way to meet Japanese girls, and Japanese people in general is on college campus. Make sure you volunteer in any campus orientation/English language assist programs. Usually you can specify that you want to help students from Japan, but sometimes you don't get that choice. The next best thing would be to participate in Japanese cultural events and hang around your local Japanese-Whatever community (look legitimate)--it's often where Japanese nationals stay overseas. The next best thing after that I would imagine is to go to Japan.

And yes, Japanese girls are nice. Just be nice yourself, outgoing, and easy-going as well. Japanese people in general tend to be nice from my experience.

Hope that helps, and I probably won't say anything on the subject again...maybe.
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should this be merged with dating? there are a bunch of threads about dating and stuff recently...maybe it should even be locked.
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latieungao wrote:

anyone know how i can get to know japanese girls? they seem nice but are they nice personality?

Japanese girls are among the nicest girls in the world. In general I have found most Japanese girls are very affectionate and considerate. of course this is a general statement they are people like anyone else so some are better matchs than others.

The only advice I can give is be yourself. Either they will like you for who you are or they won't. Better find out in the begining than to pretend to be interested in things that you are not. This applies to any culture or person.
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Doramafan113 wrote:

Japanese girls are among the nicest girls in the world. In general I have found most Japanese girls are very affectionate and considerate. of course this is a general statement they are people like anyone else so some are better matchs than others.

...it sounds like the nature channel. u talking about girls! not animals.

TANG wrote:

...it sounds like the nature channel. u talking about girls! not animals.

unless s/he's wanting to quote bloodhoung gang "we ain't nuthin' but mammals, so let's do it like they do it on the discovery channel".
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TANG wrote:

...it sounds like the nature channel. u talking about girls! not animals.

Really???? i didn't view it like that, oh well

but that was a good advice made by Doramafan, nothing is more important than being yourself, especially if u looking for a girlfriend, don't show her someone your not

K.T.Tran wrote:

Really???? i didn't view it like that, oh well but that was a good advice made by Doramafan, nothing is more important than being yourself, especially if u looking for a girlfriend, don't show her someone your not

yeah, that's for sure. cause after you've dating her for #'s of years, you will see a lot of her, and if she is the one, the one for you, then you are going to have a lot of in your face, daily, and see all their bad habits and good, and will become close if not best friends and lovers, so choose wisely, and not based all just on looks, or course. It's all in the dating game/scene. But yeah, the best advice, be yourself, before, during, and always in the relationship.

TANG wrote:

u talking about girls! not animals.

hahaha ....

Doramafan113 wrote:

Japanese girls are among the nicest girls in the world. In general I have found most Japanese girls are very affectionate and considerate. of course this is a general statement they are people like anyone else so some are better matchs than others. The only advice I can give is be yourself. Either they will like you for who you are or they won't. Better find out in the begining than to pretend to be interested in things that you are not. This applies to any culture or person.

which type of japanese girl? the ones that were born here and raised here, or the overseas japanese girls, quite different. I suppose it just matters how you get along and how well you hit it off if you start up a relationship. From what i can observe and heard from others, Japanese girls(overseas, and american born) seem nice, but i haven't dated any or known any well personally.