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anduriachan
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vibius
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 10:46 pm Post subject: Re: Americans in jdorama??? |
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anduriachan wrote: | After watching countless shows I had a thought.... How come there aren't any American actors in shows? |
It really just doesn't happen much at all.
Mark Conden (British) was in Hakoiri Musume.
Dave Spector (noted American gaijin tarento) was in the old movie Ghost Soup.
I can't think of any others right now ...
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niko2x
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vibius
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 12:24 am Post subject: |
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niko2x wrote: | but when he returns, he is TOTALLY a caucasian, with a very JPN name. No mention of wheather he was partial JPN or not, I still haven't figured that out yet... |
I think in the credits the fiance (Hamasaki) is listed as "Alexander Manning". I could be wrong though.
(edit: he did look kind of half Japanese to me)
Last edited by vibius on Fri Jul 30, 2004 12:37 am; edited 1 time in total
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niko2x
Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 4009 Location: East Coast, US Country: |
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 3:01 am Post subject: |
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vibius wrote: | I think in the credits the fiance (Hamasaki) is listed as "Alexander Manning". I could be wrong though.
(edit: he did look kind of half Japanese to me) | altho i don't care 1 way or the other, i think at least they shoulda gave him the name of smith rather than hamazaki...(IMHO).
1/2 JPN, really? He looked all caucasian to me. _________________
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groink
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 3:43 am Post subject: |
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There's a caucasian appearing in one of the earlier Shinsengumi! episodes. I didn't get his name -- I'd have to dig up the captures I made. He spoke Japanese with a somewhat British accent... It was quite interesting!
You'd only see white guys IF and ONLY IF it is within context. For example, the caucasion in Shinengumi! appeared because he was from the West, at the period when Commodore Perry came over the second time. Also, in the show Women of the Onsen, they ocassionally have caucasian business guests visiting Kurahara.
Because America is a melting pot of different races and cultures, ANYONE can play ANYBODY, again if it's within context. No one will question the race. For example, if you require a 250-pound UPS delivery guy in your show, it could be played by a person of any race. However, if you have a character running a hole-in-the-wall Chinese laundry shop, you'd better have someone that LOOKS asian (Americans still think all asians look alike).
I think in Japanese entertainment, even having a Korean or Chinese actor playing the role of a Japanese person is not acceptable. So I wouldn't think the Japanese audience would appreciate a regular, steady character being played by any one other than a person of the Japanese race. Not that the Japanese are racists, that's just the way they feel about it.
--- groink
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amberrsan
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shin2
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:41 am Post subject: Re: Americans in jdorama??? |
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anduriachan wrote: | After watching countless shows I had a thought.... How come there aren't any American actors in shows? I've seen other Asian nationalities, but no actors of Caucasian descent. |
To make an obvious point, not all Americans are Caucasian. That said, Konishiki, who is of Samoan descent from the state of Hawaii, was, I believe, part of the regular cast of Remote. Bob Sapp, an African-American, was in an episode of You're Under Arrest.
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Geezer
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:11 am Post subject: |
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I don't look for American actors in Japanese shows mostly because, as with British shows, the Americans are brought in because they are, or in the case of Japan, they look like their image of an American.
Bo Svenson probably wasn't cast because he's a great actor, or because he's hot right now. The guy's career has been in limbo for a couple of decades. But he's been around, he's got blonde hair, blue eyes, and he's about 6'4". So who cares if he was born and raised in Sweden.
And there's no end to the second and third rate American actors who earn their livings as "professional Americans" in English TV shows. They may not be pretty, and they may not be any great shakes as actors. But they sound right.
The practise doesn't really reflect well on American actors.
But I'll tell you. I'd love to see actors like James Shigeta, or Tamlyn Tomita, or George Takei playing Americans in a Dorama. That would be something a writer could play with. Especially if, like most Americans, their characters only spoke English.
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