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dochira



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Tu_triky wrote:

then they should have just aired a documentary of spam musubi

Yum, that looks good.

krim wrote:

hmm.. was it about some girl wanting to teach or something? i think it aired in the mornings here.. obviously i was at work.

Sakura wanted to learn more about her Japanese heritage (for a project??), and what better way than to teach English in Japan?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

dochira wrote:

Sakura wanted to learn more about her Japanese heritage (for a project??), and what better way than to teach English in Japan?


the richness of the spam balanced by the rice with a lil' nori kick....oishii.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Tu_triky wrote:

the richness of the spam balanced by the rice with a lil' nori kick....oishii.

No matter which Hawai'ian BBQ place I go to, I always order at least 1 SPAM musubi. And they are plentiful on the islands.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

dochira wrote:

No matter which Hawai'ian BBQ place I go to, I always order at least 1 SPAM musubi. And they are plentiful on the islands.


sounds more entertaining than memoirs of a geisha...which is still floppin' by the way....still hasn't even recovered half the money they spent on production.....
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Tu_triky wrote:

sounds more entertaining than memoirs of a geisha...which is still floppin' by the way....still hasn't even recovered half the money they spent on production.....

Watanabe Ken and Yakusho Koji are both in this? This may be a Blockbuster DVD thing for me.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

zhang ziyi is in it, seems like a BT thing to me.
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krim wrote:
zhang ziyi is in it, seems like a BT thing to me.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's not already available.
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dochira wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if it's not already available.


nor i, and i dont plan on checking anytime soon. hehe
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yeah i don't see them turning a modest profit until it comes out dvd
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dochira wrote:

No matter which Hawai'ian BBQ place I go to, I always order at least 1 SPAM musubi. And they are plentiful on the islands.


spam musubi, yeah i try to get one of those every now and then...they have them at Marukai market or L&L's BBQ.

memoirs struggling at the box office, eh? Bonk
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dochira wrote:

Without really pushing this train way off the track, I'm not certain if NHK made Sakura without an intention of it at least airing in Hawai'i. I believe it was supposed to commemorate some Hawai'i-Japan relationship.


I think Sakura aired on some American channels. But if it were NHK's intention to commemorate the relationship between Hawaii and Japan, it sure blew it with this series, an absolute insult to Japanese-Americans, especially Japanese-Americans from Hawaii. I wrote about it on another thread, but let me just repeat: one central point this series tried to make was that when WWII broke out, Japanese-Americans were torn in their loyalties between Japan and the U.S. The family in this series is supposedly from Hawaii, and on several occasions proclaimed how the grandfather, who was born in Hawaii, agonized over his divided loyalties. This is absolute, total b.s.! Hawaii-Nisei were unilaterally loyal to the United States and large numbers of them enlisted in the local 100th Battalion which eventually merged with the 442nd Regimental Combat Team: all-Nisei army units (well, the officers, at least in the beginning, were white) which had an unparalleled battle record during WWII. For NHK to put on a series which tells a blatant lie is inexcusable. My family immigrated to Hawaii from Japan in the early 1900's; my grandparents, parents, aunts, and uncles lived through Pearl Harbor and WWII; I have relatives who served with the 100/442; I know about the history of Nikkei in Hawaii because my family is/was part of it; so I get so upset whenever I think of what this series tries to inaccurately push as "fact." BTW, I know of no Hawaii-Japanese who speak English with a British accent, and I know of no Hawaii-sansei who speak English with a thick Japanese accent, unless they are kibei. Sorry for the length of this rant.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

shin2 wrote:

Hawaii-Nisei were unilaterally loyal to the United States and large numbers of them enlisted in the local 100th Battalion which eventually merged with the 442nd Regimental Combat Team: all-Nisei army units (well, the officers, at least in the beginning, were white) which had an unparalleled battle record during WWII.


indeed.

the 442nd is the most decorated military unit in the history of the United States.
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dochira wrote:

At the very least, it aired in NorCal on KTSF, and in New York (which is how Enna first got started here Smile ). I'm almost certain it was also aired in Hawai'i.


Boy dochira you sure have a good memory! Big Grin

I guess I never realized the depth of the sensitivity that the Hawaiian-Japanese-American issue was in the NHK Sakura TV series. Just like me people want their history to be represented in an accurate and honorable manner in their TV series and films. Writers' poetic license sure is annoying, isn't it? Sweat [/i]
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Enna wrote:


Just like me people want their history to be represented in an accurate and honorable manner in their TV series and films. Writers' poetic license sure is annoying, isn't it? Sweat [/i]


rightfully so...i've mentioned this previously....but like in the WWII submarine film U-571...the movie represents that the Americans were the first to undertake the daring mission to capture a German U-boat in order to seize a German Engima encoding machine so the Allies could break the German communication cypher....the Brits were the ones who did it first and at the cost of lives....

when the film came out i think British Naval veterans were rightfully hot under the collar.
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Tu_triky wrote:


rightfully so...i've mentioned this previously....but like in the WWII submarine film U-571...the movie represents that the Americans were the first to undertake the daring mission to capture a German U-boat in order to seize a German Engima encoding machine so the Allies could break the German communication cypher....the Brits were the ones who did it first and at the cost of lives....

when the film came out i think British Naval veterans were rightfully hot under the collar.


yeah, bon jovi defeated the germans! hehe
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yeah, bon jovi defeated the germans! hehe


LOL...you have every right to rip away, my dear british fellow....it's obscenely wrong.
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LOL...you have every right to rip away, my dear british fellow....it's obscenely wrong.


i'd have preferred john wayne or clint eastwood but not bon jovi! hehe
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kenjilina wrote:

yeah, bon jovi defeated the germans! hehe

lol



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Reprinted from Hindustantimes.com (due to some pop-ups):

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Yeoh defends Geisha casting

Indo-Asian News Service

New York, January 11, 2006

Malaysian born star of Memoirs of a Geisha Michelle Yeoh has reacted to criticism regarding her casting in a Japanese role, saying all that matters is talent.

According to Internet Movie Database, Yeoh is surprised by critics who have questioned the decision to use Chinese and Malaysian stars in the movie.

She says: "The actors were chosen because of their suitability to the characters. It is the same as an English actor playing a German or an American. So it seems strange to me when you say, 'Why are you playing Japanese?' Why? Because I am an actor."
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kenjilina wrote:


i'd have preferred john wayne or clint eastwood but not bon jovi! hehe


they should have picked mr. bean
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Tu_triky wrote:

they should have picked mr. bean

I would pay money to see Teddie infiltrate the Germans. hehe

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