yeah right. they have no right to take away something that was given to him under no fault of his own.
its their fault not his! so let them deal with it. you cant give it then take it away. you act as if it were stolen,
everyone who booed hamm, was just hatein bcs he is from the u.s and u.s is the best.
anyway i dont give a damn bcs in an interview hamm said he had no plans on returning the medal
those damn officials want him to be a good sport and just return it but he , the american officials and most american citizens think he should keep it.
Hamm keep the medal and shove it in everybodys face!
and say"its my medal nah nah nah nah, and you cant have it , ha ha ha ha"

TANG wrote:

"the man" is a pretty smart guy, much cooler than that airhead "bmw racer" (nah im joking, bmw is a cool kid")

I see. Anyone who disagrees with you is an airhead, neh?

i was joking man! i thought i made that pretty clear.
i love u bmw racer!

bmwracer wrote:

Oh man, I'm watching the men's pole vault and that guy with the helmet that they call "Crash" is too funny...

Team USA was one-two in the pole vault last night... Pretty fascinating watching those guys vault with those fibrglass poles... Gol medal winner, Tim Mack broke an Olympic record with a vault of 19'-6 1/4"... Whew.

TANG wrote:

yeah right. they have no right to take away something that was given to him under no fault of his own. its their fault not his! so let them deal with it. you cant give it then take it away. you act as if it were stolen, everyone who booed hamm, was just hatein bcs he is from the u.s and u.s is the best. anyway i dont give a damn bcs in an interview hamm said he had no plans on returning the medal those damn officials want him to be a good sport and just return it but he , the american officials and most american citizens think he should keep it. Hamm keep the medal and shove it in everybodys face! and say"its my medal nah nah nah nah, and you cant have it , ha ha ha ha"

Yea I agree with you that if someone is given something, it can't be taken away. For example, in 8th grade, there was this stupid kid in my class who applied to get into my HS and he got accepted somehow. In the end, it was an error on the grading of the entrance exam but the HS couldn't reject him since they sent him an acceptance letter. Same situation in this case. However with that being said, I have no idea how Paul Hamm could try to justify himself earning that gold medal. Mathematically he is silver at best but he has a gold. If I was him I'd just walk away from the media and not even talk about it because the numbers don't lie. He is number 2.

That is a double standard.
If he is number 2, then they should take away the gold.
Plain and simple. There is no need to let him keep the gold if he didn't earn it. If he keeps it and says he earned it (when everyone knows he didn't, and which is what he's doing) it's just a reflection on his morale.
Don't get me wrong, I have much love for the US. But I can't tolerate this kind of child's play in something as serious as the Olympics.
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Impression15 wrote:

id rather watch aya ueto swim around

Oh hell yea

Wow, the final men's diving competition (10M platform) was pretty tight... China's Hu Jia won the competition with an incredible dive, scoring five 10s... Whew.

China won in guy Hurdles!!!!!!!
China won in guy diving!!!!!!!! (too bad the hot bronze metal dude didnt get gold...)

mrs. tsumabuki wrote:

China won in guy Hurdles!!!!!!! China won in guy diving!!!!!!!! (too bad the hot bronze metal dude didnt get gold...)

yea the hurdle thing was amazing

child's play my butt hole!
yeah in something as seriouse as the olympics judges should be more careful.
hamm didnt make the mistake, so he shouldnt have to pay for it.
he knows he is # two and so does the whole world. as far as im concerned his moral has nothing to do with it. he got a second place gold medal, big deal! the point is , he got it and it belongs to him!
if he were saying "im number one and dont 4 get it" then that would be a whole nother story. ...........his moral, oh please.

I watched a 30 min Synchro highlights at late night on Friday, thanks Eurosport! I knew Japan wouldn't surpass Russia at team synchro. Japan's performance was great but Russia's was beyond the great! Absolutely fantastic The better team won!

I nearly fell asleep watchin a horse jumpin event (equestranism, how do I even pronounce it, hehe). Too elite sports for me.

The olympics is about to come to an end. The speculation regardin the olympics would have been a disaster before it started by the IOC due to the delays and after delays at construction, The IOC should take their statement back. I didn't see any unfinished events built except the Greek side decided to not cover the swimmin stadium with a roof. Well organized competion except mishaps always happen at judging, a human mistake occurs. After all they are human beings. For me it's the best Olympics I've seen so far! No terror attacks occured on the Greek soil, a big plus!

Let's see if the Beijing 2008 can surpass Athens 2004. Beijing is facin many many difficult issues! How will they handle the issues? The pollution is one of the most difficult issue to solve. China is no. 1 at using coal as an energy source! The enviroment standard is not up to date, annealin is dumped everywhere. Will we see clouds of smoke coverin the city durin the competion?
I know once they decide on solving the issues, there is no stopping them. The 2008 Olympics is more than money-makin-machine for China, China will invest a LOT of money on infrastructure more than they get from the competion, the olympic revenues is nothing to them. Just a face lift to clear China's image and to promote the country to the rest of the world as well, The Tiananmen Square incident?
The best biggest change China will ever have since the communists took over, it's like rebuilding the whole country. We all know China will benefit in the long run, more foreign invests, more prosperity.
The good thing is that the ppl will benefit from the competion. As for the human right and politcal issues, will they ever be solved. How long will the hidden capitalism last in the society? Taiwan not mergin with China by 2008, China will take over Taiwan by force? At least Bejing have threatened over and over before, will they keep their words this time?
They remain to be seen in the future.

too bad I missed this thread.. But I watched alot of it, pretty good.

Okay it's sorta late, but here's the Olympic theme: http://premium.uploadit.org/bmwracer/Olympic-Theme.mp3

TANG wrote:

child's play my butt hole!

Oh really? And why is that?

TANG wrote:

yeah in something as seriouse as the olympics judges should be more careful.

Yeah, they should. Remember now, I didn't say that the judges were right in anyway. In fact, I even demeaned such judges.

TANG wrote:

hamm didnt make the mistake, so he shouldnt have to pay for it.

That's correct. He didn't make the mistake.

TANG wrote:

he knows he is # two and so does the whole world. as far as im concerned his moral has nothing to do with it.

Yeah, if he knows he's number 2, and if he keeps the medal, then doesn't that reflect on morale???!!! Bottom line is that he's keeping something that he didn't deserve. And he knows it. Judges fault or not.

TANG wrote:

he got a second place gold medal, big deal! the point is , he got it and it belongs to him!

You're right about that, TANG. He got it and it's his. Even though it serves no value and he knows he didn't deserve it. Might as well have taken a rock home, and then carve a #2 in it.

TANG wrote:

if he were saying "im number one and dont 4 get it" then that would be a whole nother story. ...........his moral, oh please.

Yeah, that would be a different story. But fact of the matter is that he knows he didn't deserve it, but yet he's keeping it. So do you still think that doesn't reflect on morale?!
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ahochaude wrote:

Even though it serves no value and he knows he didn't deserve it. Might as well have taken a rock home, and then carve a #2 in it.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... So much for sportsmanship and fair play, neh?

Paul Hamm is NOT number 2. He is number 1. Ichi ban, got it? He won the gold fair and square [bruddah, no worries] under the parameters of the competition's scoring and that's that. IF THE RULES NEED TO BE CHANGED FOR FUTURE OLYMPICS GYMNASTICS OR FOR ANY OTHER FRIGGIN' EVENT, THEN IT SHOULD BE DONE! THE SCORES FOR THE XXVIII OLYMPICS ARE IN THE BOOKS ALREADY.

For gymnastics, scores are rendered by the judges and posted immediately after the gymnast's performance; blame this seeming "rush to judgment" if anything and, you know what? I said before, if scorings from past Olympic gymnastics competitions should be reviewed for improprieties, I bet a lot of mistakes will be found. No one has brought this up yet? I wonder why. Could it be because a lot of medals will be taken away? Then, anyone who has won a gymn' Olympic medal would be calling "foul." Funny how only THEN, when the prospect of past medals getting taken away, would Olympic scoring become a problem outside of Paul Hamm all of a sudden.

The improprieties are there, make no mistake, but it's not Hamm's fault. The IOC says he keeps the medal. Period. It's in the books that he has it; history'll show what the Olympics community will think of the situation and it's gonna be pretty hard to deny down the road, if you ask me, when it'll prove to be that Hamm's still got the gold.

From questionable swim starts involving the way a dolphin moves to defrocked priests getting in the way of the intended gold medal winner of this Olympics' marathon, this Olympics -- like ANY OTHER -- was filled w/questionable acts that involved medal wins; SHOULD MORE FRIGGIN' TIME BE SPENT (NO, WASTED) GOING OVER RESULTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE BOOKS OR CAN WE BE PROGRESSIVE AND LOOK FORWARD ALREADY, REMEMBERING WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST WHILE SOME OF THE OLYMPIC RULES (THAT, ADMITTEDLY, NEED TO BE CHANGED) ARE TREATED????

And all this controversy only helps Hamm -- when you start seeing him between stories in your sports magazines or in TV commercials, then you gotta' ask the complainers, "was it really worth your time?"

ABOVE ALL, HAMM DESERVES THE GOLD AND HE AND A LOT OF OTHERS THINK SO TOO. THAT LAST "BARS" COMPETITION HE PERFORMED THAT ALLOWED HIM TO GET THE GOLD WAS MUCH BETTER -- LESS MISTAKES, IF AT ALL, FOR ONE THING -- THAN, NOT ONLY THE SOUTH KOREAN'S OWN PERFORMANCE, BUT THE OTHERS' PERFORMANCE AS WELL [GO WATCH THE TAPE]. THE REPORTS THAT I'VE BEEN HEARING REGARDING THE POSSIBILITY (and that's ALL it is at best) OF HAMM NOT DESERVING OF THE GOLD MEDAL DON'T SEEM ADDRESS THIS PART OF THE INDIVIDUAL MEN'S COMPETITION. FURTHERMORE, I HAVE YET TO SEE A SPLIT-SCREEN, SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON -- OF THE INDIVIDUAL MEN'S COMPETITION -- BETWEEN HAMM AND THE OTHER CONTESTANTS. IF THAT KIND OF COMPARISON HASN'T BEEN SHOWN (AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING, I REALLY DON'T THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAS YET BEEN SHOWN), THEN THE QUESTION BECOMES "WHY NOT?????" COULD IT BE THAT IF SUBSTANTIVE ARGUMENT, REGARDING THE MEN'S INDIVIDUAL COMPETITION, BECOMES PART OF THIS "HAMM DON'T DESERVE THE GOLD" WITCH HUNT, THEN THE NAYSAYERS'LL HAVE NOTHING TO STAND ON?

Think of a situation where someone gets more of a margin than s/he earned; walking away from the proverbial dept. store or supermarket purchase with more change than s/he deserved is a good, garden variety example. Begging the prof' for an extra credit assignment -- that no one else'll probably get -- to get that 10 points needed for an "A" is another good example.
You think such a person goes back and return the change? EVERY TIME it happened? ONCE? Did the student go out of his or her way to TELL all of their fellow classmates the prof' is giving extra credit assignments? EVERY time it happened?

Because you know what? The questions, and answers, for the above boxed paragraph is NOT an analogy to the Hamm situation. I'm just mentioning it. So, whoo hoo!

You should get a job working for the USOC.

About the hurdles event, are there any penalties for knocking them down? What if a guy knocks down every one of them??

I loved the diving events and also watched the 1000m long run?? The guys ran for 10 laps. Damn I would of collapsed long before that

Btw, anyone watched the Taekowndo final between Greece and Korea? Amazing move by the Korean in the end, winning gold.